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PIA To Retire F27 Fleet, Sell 747-200s  
User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 391 posts, RR: 1
Posted (15 years 10 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4218 times:

I read in the news that Pakistan International has decided to retire its fleet of some 15 F27s, the type being considered for replacement are the ATR42/72 and Dash8, which do you think they'll chose.PIA is also selling off 4 of its 8 B747-200s and scrapping two for spares ( the six are grounded at present), wonder which type will replace them, most probably the 777 as they were in talks with Cathay Pacific to lease some as they have 6 of CXs 747-300s, the first Rolls Royce powered aircraft in PIAs fleet.

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User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 11588 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (15 years 10 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4194 times:

Some time ago PIA was in talks to buy 744s. The 743s are an interim solution.

User currently offlineRm-11 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 142 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (15 years 10 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4168 times:

PIA is also planning on acquiring around five freighters. It has been a while since PIA decided to modernize their flight, but financial conditions have slowed down the process. I would like to see PIA replace the Fokkers with the ATR 72. I heard that PIA may get the 777 or 330 to replace the 742, instead of the 744 or 340.

User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 391 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (15 years 10 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4145 times:

PIA has missed out on two great opportunities to buy the 747-400, the first was from Boeing which were selling 3 or more factory fresh Philippine airlines aircraft with a hefty discount, the second was some used 747-400s of Malaysia airlines, the first one was lost because the previous govt and the PIA management conspired to make the airline a loss maker so as to privatise it ,so the new equipment was not to be inducted, reason given was a lame one claiming that Boeing werent going to modify the aircraft to PIAs specefictions in time, in time for what? i ask, you dont look a gift horse in the mouth, PIA was saving millions of dollars on each aircraft in that deal, the second failed i dont know for what reason, the aircraft were later aquired by South African and Qantas respectively

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User currently offlineBrissie_lions From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (15 years 10 months 5 days ago) and read 4139 times:

Is this decision by PIA to retire the Friendship's from their fleet, a financial decision, a modernisation decision or is it the fact that, along with UB, they have run the Friendship's safety record into the ground? Take a look at this for a *safety record* with the Friendship.

25.06.1964 Fokker F-27 Friendship 200 AP-ALO 0(26)
Pakistan International Airlines - PIA Dacca

08.10.1965 Fokker F-27 Friendship 200 AP-ATT 4(4)
Pakistan International Airlines - PIA Naran; nr

06.08.1970 Fokker F-27 Friendship 200 AP-ALM 30(30)
Pakistan International Airlines - PIA Rawalpindi; 11nm SE

30.12.1970 Fokker F-27 Friendship 200 AP-AUV 7(35)
Pakistan International Airlines - PIA Shemshernagar; nr

12.12.1971 Fokker F-27 Friendship 200 AP-ALX 4(4)
Pakistan International Airlines - PIA near Iranian border

08.12.1972 Fokker F-27 Friendship 600 AP-AUS 26(26)
Pakistan International Airlines - PIA Maidan; nr

28.05.1973 Fokker F-27 Friendship 200 AP-AUW 0(40)
Pakistan International Airlines - PIA Lyalpur

16.12.1978 Fokker F-27 Friendship 200 AP-ATO 1(2)
Pakistan International Airlines - PIA Karachi

05.06.1981 Fokker F-27 Friendship 600 AP-AXF 0(3)
Pakistan International Airlines - PIA Gilgit

23.10.1986 Fokker F-27 Friendship 600 AP-AUX 13(54)
Pakistan International Airlines - PIA Peshawar; 10km S

25.08.1989 Fokker F-27 Friendship 200 AP-BBF 54(54)
Pakistan International Airlines - PIA Bunji

06.07.1994 Fokker F-27 Friendship 200 AP-ALN 0(42)
Pakistan International Airlines - PIA Dera Ismail Khan

Taken from http://aviation-safety.net/database/operator/AP.shtml



User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 391 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (15 years 10 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4120 times:

Scotty, the retirement is to facilitate modernisation of the fleet and not for safety reasons.

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User currently offlineJohno From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (15 years 10 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4105 times:

anyone know if there is still that old Connie rotting away at Karachi?

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