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What Does "V" Mean In A Check-in Systems Seating?  
User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5608 times:

Hi:
I'm here in Kiev, getting ready for an AeroSvit flight. I asked for a bulkhead, and she said nothing was available, the best she could do was middle seats in 24.
Lots of seats were green and showed "V". She said that means reserved. How does "V" mean reserved? I'm not doubting her, I just think that "R" would be more appropriate.
-Mr. X


What now?
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User currently offlineHS748 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5576 times:

Why would you assume that English was the language being used in a check-in system in Kiev? Perhaps the local language is used and perhaps the local word for 'reserved' starts with the letter v. There is life outside the English speaking world you know!

[Edited 2006-03-05 10:39:17]

User currently offlineSpencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1633 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5568 times:

If the seats (on the diagram) were green and showed a "V" then surely that meant they were vacant?
Spencer.



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User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5557 times:

You are all assuming a letter is used to represent seat availability.

In some cases (in Sabre) vacant seats are marked with a ' * ' or a ' . ' and sometimes with just the seat letter.

7L



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5108 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5557 times:

In some ACS, V is one of codes used for airport blocked seats, meaning that that they can be released only during checkin. What may have been the case with the checkin agent, is that she didnt have the authority to release the seats (her agent sine was not high enough). She could have checked with a supervisor to do it though.

I can't say for sure that this was the case in this ACS.



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User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5520 times:

V might mean Last Vacant (at least it does in the system I use) and are the seats that have to be given out only if the aircraft fills up completely. FR's variant of the red/white tape  Wink It maybe seats that do not recline or that the crew uses to rest if possible or even have to do with the weight & Balance of the a/c.


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User currently offlineDavidT From Switzerland, joined Oct 2005, 477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5474 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Thread starter):
How does "V" mean reserved? I'm not doubting her, I just think that "R" would be more appropriate.

Given you're in the Ukraine, I'm pretty sure that the letter is from a foreign language- probably Russian - perhaps even in the cyrillic alphabet.


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5216 times:

V could not mean occupied in Russian (perhaps in Ukrainian, but I can't construe it in Russian) and it was a latin V (nothing similar used in Russian)
"Airport Blocked" could make sense, but this was most of the economy cabin. It's an interesting system, whatever they use.
-Mr. X
The reason I ask this all is because I was Seq #80 (out of ~ 200 coach seats in their configuration), and there was nothing available beyond row 26 (barring two middle seats in row 24) (which makes sense, but there were two empty seats in row 11 when we left -- which arguably, could have been no shows, and perhaps there really was nothing available in front of row 26.. not calling anyone a liar)

[Edited 2006-03-06 20:18:16]

[Edited 2006-03-06 20:21:54]

[Edited 2006-03-06 20:22:56]

[Edited 2006-03-06 20:23:34]


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User currently offlineAsqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 602 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5171 times:

V, Q, R, Z, U, L, B, I, X and H are just a few of the seat types I have seen in various reservations systems. Genearally they go something like this (although there is some variation with different systems):
V - Pre-Reserved, Frequent Flyer Program Member (Usually Elites)
Q - Prefered for Frequent Flyer Program Members (Usually Elites)
R - Pre-Reserved, General Passenger
Z - Airport Assign Only
U - Undesireable (Such as non-reclining)
L - Prefered for Unaccomanied Minor
B - Blocked
I - Infant Block (usually a lap infant sitting in an adjoining seat)
X - Inoperable
H - Prefered Seating for Disabled or Special Needs Passengeres


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5163 times:

THAT makes sense. (Pre-reserved w FFP)
The only thing I won't know, is why it was V.



What now?
User currently offlineAsqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 602 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5129 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 9):
The only thing I won't know, is why it was V.

Since "R" is used for Reserved for General Passenger, "V" could stand for Reserved for VIP Passenger, but that's only a best guess.


User currently offlineDeC From Greece, joined Aug 2005, 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5106 times:

That's the thing Asqx, thanks a lot!


DEC
User currently offlineRamerinianAir From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5068 times:

V means you've been Medallion upgraded!!! That's a fare thing though, not a seat thing.
SR



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User currently offlineAirScoot From United States of America, joined May 2005, 688 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5062 times:

The VV seat map looks like Amadeus. I pulled a map for today.. and there was a key at the bottom...

A B C D E F G
. AVAILABLE WW WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C CO
‡ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PE
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L TOILET U UM
SS SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R RE

Looks like V is for Preferred Seating (elite).


User currently offlinePA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1979 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5053 times:
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Asqx spelled it out pretty well, but sounds like there is still a little confusion.

  • Don't look for any correlation between the code used and its meaning. They are often arbitrary.
  • The codes used are often unique to the airline and/or system used.


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    User currently offlineAsqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 602 posts, RR: 0
    Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5018 times:

    Every system is different, although I have found that after three versions of Sabre, Shares, and OpenSkies, that they are generally close to each other, although OpenSkies was the simplest, having R (reservered), I (lap infant), E (exit row), B (blocked), - (open) and * (occupied) as the only options, at least in the version I used.

    User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5108 posts, RR: 12
    Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4939 times:

    Quoting Asqx (Reply 8):
    V, Q, R, Z, U, L, B, I, X and H are just a few of the seat types I have seen in various reservations systems. Genearally they go something like this (although there is some variation with different systems):
    V - Pre-Reserved, Frequent Flyer Program Member (Usually Elites)
    Q - Prefered for Frequent Flyer Program Members (Usually Elites)
    R - Pre-Reserved, General Passenger
    Z - Airport Assign Only
    U - Undesireable (Such as non-reclining)
    L - Prefered for Unaccomanied Minor
    B - Blocked
    I - Infant Block (usually a lap infant sitting in an adjoining seat)
    X - Inoperable
    H - Prefered Seating for Disabled or Special Needs Passengeres

    I think this is pretty much the answer here, no need for guessing. This is def. the case with Sabre.



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