UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4286 posts, RR: 5 Posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4124 times:
Hi:
I'm here in Kiev, getting ready for an AeroSvit flight. I asked for a bulkhead, and she said nothing was available, the best she could do was middle seats in 24.
Lots of seats were green and showed "V". She said that means reserved. How does "V" mean reserved? I'm not doubting her, I just think that "R" would be more appropriate.
-Mr. X
HS748 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4092 times:
Why would you assume that English was the language being used in a check-in system in Kiev? Perhaps the local language is used and perhaps the local word for 'reserved' starts with the letter v. There is life outside the English speaking world you know!
Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5093 posts, RR: 13 Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4073 times:
In some ACS, V is one of codes used for airport blocked seats, meaning that that they can be released only during checkin. What may have been the case with the checkin agent, is that she didnt have the authority to release the seats (her agent sine was not high enough). She could have checked with a supervisor to do it though.
I can't say for sure that this was the case in this ACS.
Lamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 23 Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4036 times:
V might mean Last Vacant (at least it does in the system I use) and are the seats that have to be given out only if the aircraft fills up completely. FR's variant of the red/white tape It maybe seats that do not recline or that the crew uses to rest if possible or even have to do with the weight & Balance of the a/c.
UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4286 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3732 times:
V could not mean occupied in Russian (perhaps in Ukrainian, but I can't construe it in Russian) and it was a latin V (nothing similar used in Russian)
"Airport Blocked" could make sense, but this was most of the economy cabin. It's an interesting system, whatever they use.
-Mr. X
The reason I ask this all is because I was Seq #80 (out of ~ 200 coach seats in their configuration), and there was nothing available beyond row 26 (barring two middle seats in row 24) (which makes sense, but there were two empty seats in row 11 when we left -- which arguably, could have been no shows, and perhaps there really was nothing available in front of row 26.. not calling anyone a liar)
Asqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 589 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3687 times:
V, Q, R, Z, U, L, B, I, X and H are just a few of the seat types I have seen in various reservations systems. Genearally they go something like this (although there is some variation with different systems):
V - Pre-Reserved, Frequent Flyer Program Member (Usually Elites)
Q - Prefered for Frequent Flyer Program Members (Usually Elites)
R - Pre-Reserved, General Passenger
Z - Airport Assign Only
U - Undesireable (Such as non-reclining)
L - Prefered for Unaccomanied Minor
B - Blocked
I - Infant Block (usually a lap infant sitting in an adjoining seat)
X - Inoperable
H - Prefered Seating for Disabled or Special Needs Passengeres
UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4286 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3679 times:
THAT makes sense. (Pre-reserved w FFP)
The only thing I won't know, is why it was V.
Asqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 589 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3645 times:
Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 9): The only thing I won't know, is why it was V.
Since "R" is used for Reserved for General Passenger, "V" could stand for Reserved for VIP Passenger, but that's only a best guess.
RamerinianAir From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3584 times:
V means you've been Medallion upgraded!!! That's a fare thing though, not a seat thing.
SR
AirScoot From United States of America, joined May 2005, 688 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3578 times:
The VV seat map looks like Amadeus. I pulled a map for today.. and there was a key at the bottom...
A B C D E F G
. AVAILABLE WW WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C CO
‡ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PE
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L TOILET U UM
SS SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R RE
PA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1950 posts, RR: 26 Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3569 times:
Asqx spelled it out pretty well, but sounds like there is still a little confusion.
Don't look for any correlation between the code used and its meaning. They are often arbitrary.
The codes used are often unique to the airline and/or system used.
Asqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 589 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3534 times:
Every system is different, although I have found that after three versions of Sabre, Shares, and OpenSkies, that they are generally close to each other, although OpenSkies was the simplest, having R (reservered), I (lap infant), E (exit row), B (blocked), - (open) and * (occupied) as the only options, at least in the version I used.
Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5093 posts, RR: 13 Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3455 times:
Quoting Asqx (Reply 8): V, Q, R, Z, U, L, B, I, X and H are just a few of the seat types I have seen in various reservations systems. Genearally they go something like this (although there is some variation with different systems):
V - Pre-Reserved, Frequent Flyer Program Member (Usually Elites)
Q - Prefered for Frequent Flyer Program Members (Usually Elites)
R - Pre-Reserved, General Passenger
Z - Airport Assign Only
U - Undesireable (Such as non-reclining)
L - Prefered for Unaccomanied Minor
B - Blocked
I - Infant Block (usually a lap infant sitting in an adjoining seat)
X - Inoperable
H - Prefered Seating for Disabled or Special Needs Passengeres
I think this is pretty much the answer here, no need for guessing. This is def. the case with Sabre.