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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3829 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5968 times:

What are the oldest planes out there which feature PTVs?

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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2226 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5953 times:

Quoting Vasu (Thread starter):
What are the oldest planes out there which feature PTVs?

EK had them on their A310's and A300's, not sure if any airline installed them on B742's?



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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5938 times:

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 1):
not sure if any airline installed them on B742's?

VS did... they were the size of postage stamps!


User currently offlineRaffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1707 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5910 times:

I think it was AA that had PTVs installed (in J) onboard their 707s in the sixties.


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5774 times:

Legend put them on their DC-9s. I believe Legend was the first to offer them throughout the entire aircraft.
AA in the 60s? I doubt it, you'll have to find some information to convince me.


User currently offlineRaffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1707 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5722 times:

Sorry, IFE, rather than PTVs, was installed onboard 707s of AA in the 60s- the seventies witnessed the introduction of personal monitors in J, located inbetween each J class seat. Check this out for more info http://www.waea.org/Press/History.pdf


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User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5646 times:

very few remember, but America West back in the early 90's started PTV's on their a/c, I believe they signed contract with FlightLink, or some name like that. My brother's ad company out of L.A got the contract to promote the new system on HP flights, so I was paid to fly HP five days a week, and towards the end of every flight, we would get up and use the PA system to demo the new system to pax. The system had everything from games to stock quotes to mail to a page that would allow a pax to look up future flights and book them. Upon descent, the screen would show the latest flight info for CMH/LAS/PHX hubs depending upon which one you were arriving to, idea was that HP thought it could cut down on transit time for pax connecting through their hubs, a great idea as long as no last minute gate changes occurred. After about a year, the company went belly up, and HP was left with the scraps of the company, basically, a few of their planes might even still have the 4 inch screens in the back of some of their seats now. There were pictures of some of these on an aviation site, I just did a quick check and couldn't find them, somebody might be able to though

User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5525 times:

I'm pretty sure it was NW that started out using LCD PTVs in the first class cabins in 1990-1991 in their 742s. Anyone confirm this?


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User currently offlineKjet12 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 975 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5506 times:

Quoting Flyboy7974 (Reply 6):
There were pictures of some of these on an aviation site, I just did a quick check and couldn't find them, somebody might be able to though

I'm guessing this is the system you're talking about. Sounds like it was a good concept.


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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5484 times:

American had PTVs on their A300s for a while.


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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 31
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5453 times:

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 9):
American had PTVs on their A300s for a while.

figures. When I have to fly aa, their gone...



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User currently offlineC133 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4882 times:
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If I remember it correctly, AA's first system on 707s (late sixties) was a videoplayer (huge, in the cockpit where the second jumpseat had been) that fed small TVs between the FC seats and scattered overhead in coach. Version 2 was film based, with a continuous loop film that went all the way down one side of the cabin, crossed over, and went back up the other side to return to the drive unit. Projection units with self-contained screens were scattered through the cabin overhead, and audio from each projector was fed to the appropriate seats. Quite a lash-up, but it worked. Probably VCR based systems followed this.


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User currently offlinePillowTester From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4414 times:

Geez that America West plane with all the disabled PTVs is kindof unprofessional looking.


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User currently offlineKLMyank From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 172 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4317 times:

Kuwait airways had them on the A300/A310s in 1994...

User currently offlineCRFLY From Costa Rica, joined Jan 2004, 197 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4138 times:

I remember Mexicana good old days with PTV on all their 727's and DC-10's, when they introduced the colorful tails... those were the sweet old days of traveling with MX, and their Aztec Golden Service!!!


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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4056 times:

Does anyone have photos of any of these old PTV systems... they sound really interesting!

User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4010 times:

Quoting CRFLY (Reply 14):
I remember Mexicana good old days with PTV on all their 727's

Oh ok so it wasn't a dream! I have this vague memory of flying aboard a Mexicana 727 watching The Pink Panther on a PTV.



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5191 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3838 times:

QF installed them on their 743's just a couple of years ago.

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3784 times:

VMI has PTVs on there IL-62s.

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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

I just found this:


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Flippin' heck! Look at the size of those!


User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2226 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3504 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 19):
Flippin' heck! Look at the size of those!

If I'm not mistaken, that is an ex-EK aircraft?



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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3454 times:

Yep, I believe it used to be this:


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User currently offlineSFO2SVO From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3360 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 19):
VMI has PTVs on there IL-62s.

Did you mean VIM? This one: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0671197/M/
But these are not PTVs..



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User currently offlineArdian From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3344 times:


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User currently offlineGVWOW From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 168 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3318 times:

Vyborg has PTVs on some of their IL-114s, but I'm not sure how old those are.

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25 SFO2SVO : These IL-114s are actually very new. It is just not very common to see PTVs on this type of aircraft. Which brings another question: what are the sma
26 UnitedFirst : what are the smallest planes with PTVs out there (bizjets excluded)? I would have to assume Air Canada's EMB195's likely represent some of the smalles
27 Post contains links and images FlyKev : Heres the old VS PTV system (named 'gallery') (The VS ptv's) View Large View MediumPhoto © Justin Cederholm
28 Post contains images Shabaz : PIA has PTV's installed for its business class passengers onboard its old 747-200 Combis:
29 Dogfighter2111 : Heya, Just to mention the IL-114 looks inside, really technical and everything is computerised, yet the design of the aircraft looks ancient. Not a v
30 Post contains images JumboForever : Haha! I remember seeing MATRIX on one of these. For sure the movie lost a lot of its interest. I couldn't distinguish between the blue and red pills.
31 Post contains images Vasu : Ah, I also remember those old VS screens on G-VLAX... 6? channels, of which about 3 actually worked on my flights... the headphone sound was fuzzy, an
32 Pgtravel : Those HP PTVs are all gone now. They were sitting in there for the longest time unused, but with the new lighter blue seat covers, they all were remov
33 Post contains images Myt332 : Funniest thing I've read all day!
34 Post contains images GVWOW : Rather strangely, the PTVs in that picture where all showing the same thing, except a few that where off (or maybe not working). This may say somethi
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