AirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5991 times:
Since AC is one of the top three aircraft MRO providers worldwide in terms of sales, who are the other two? I can think of Lufthansa Techniks along with Air Canada Technical Service (ACTS). I'm just curious who is the 3rd?. I was reading the old news way back in May 2005 when ACE AVIATION ANNOUNCES PLANNED INVESTMENT IN MERGED US AIRWAYS-AMERICA WEST CARRIER
May 19, 2005
Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 13500 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5979 times:
I could be wrong, but I believe the largest MRO providers in the world were Lufthansa, AA and Air Canada. The main difference being, of course, that while Lufthansa and Air Canada both have flourishing insourced third party contract work from outside carriers, the vast majority of AA's maintenance load is maintaining AA's own fleet, which if, of course, the largest on earth.
Phuebner From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 244 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5639 times:
I think AA is planning on expanding their operations at both the Tulsa and MCI facilities. Several articles came out on both facilities in regards to creating a "profit center". In particular, their goal was to bring in third party work and streamlining their facilities usage. In a similar string that I put out in regards to MRO's, another person said that AC spun off their maintenance facility from their company. I kind of feel that AA should do the same.
Remember this, Your Body is a temple Not a pull toy!
Accargo From Canada, joined Sep 2004, 610 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5631 times:
Quoting AC7E7 (Reply 4): I am not surprised. ACTS has been having problems for years. We will see if the new President can turn things around.
From what I've been able to find out, the problem has not been the quality of the work done but with the managments ability to ensure adequate staff were available to handle extra work. They would sign contracts to handle work and then half way through the jobs scramble because they did not schedule the work realistically enough with the manpower available.
AC7E7 From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 684 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5576 times:
Quoting Phuebner (Reply 5): In a similar string that I put out in regards to MRO's, another person said that AC spun off their maintenance facility from their company
They have yet to be spun off. It is a wholy-owned subsidiary.
Quoting Accargo (Reply 6): From what I've been able to find out, the problem has not been the quality of the work done but with the managments ability to ensure adequate staff were available to handle extra work
You are correct. Quality of work has never been a problem. The problem lies with management. They hire a ton of new mechanics, yet it can take upto 2 years to train them properly. When they are trained however, ACTS will suffer from a work slowdown and has no choice but to freeze hiring and layoffs. They should continue to hire during slowdowns so they may be able to handle the third-party contracts when times are good. This has been a problem for many years.
DALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2893 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5521 times:
The DL contract has had some problems. The quality is good, but they are way behind. In house we were able to keep up with the 767/757 fleet with four HMV lines. They are doing four lines but we have had to send three to four planes at a time to Timco to keep the the fleet from running out of time. That is a lot of lost revenue.
AA has announced they are going to be growing in TUL. They just got $60M from the state to build two new widebody hangars. They are growing and we at DL are shrinking our business. Most think our TechOps leadership has destroyed a great enterprise.
9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1428 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5346 times:
Quoting AC7E7 (Reply 10): ACTS has not been working efficiently for many many years.... even before 9/11 thanks to weak leadership.
Would that explain why heads rolled recently when a new CEO was announced for ACTS? Seems Robert Milton has very little patience for CEO's that don't perform. It's only been a number of months since the CEO of ACV(Air Canada Vacations) was replaced,same thing,poor performance.
AC7E7 From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 684 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5170 times:
Quoting 9252fly (Reply 12): Would that explain why heads rolled recently when a new CEO was announced for ACTS? Seems Robert Milton has very little patience for CEO's that don't perform
The last President of ACTS was due for retirement. He was already with the company for 31 years.
Milton is no longer running an airline. He is running an a company that has stakes in a number of other companies, including AC, Aeroplan, and ACTS. He is accountable to ACE stockholders now. If a subsidiary is nor performing well, changes have to be made right away.