ManchesterMAN From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1252 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4195 times:
Airlines generally have no problems with you using cameras once at 10,000ft as an approved electronic device. With regards to takeoff and landing I usually wait until the FAs are seated before using mine. I figure if they don't see me use it they can't tell me not to so I'm not doing anything wrong. NW will be no different than any other carrier.
Gr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3204 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4091 times:
Quoting GBan (Reply 8): Probably because the camera it is an electronic device. But if it is an old mechanical camera...
Why should an electronic camera cause any problems? It's not like a cell phone, which is banned because of its tendency to generate microwaves and other forms of radiation that may affect avionics systems....
Go3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3269 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4052 times:
Once, on a LGW-MSP flight the Capt. came on and told about some glacier in Greenland, he said something about taking out your cameras and taking some pictures of it. Having said that, its still at the discretion of the flight crew.
That's right but cell phone are still forbiden for the whole trip! And to second my first idea, you have to switch off ANY electronic devic during landing and take off: DVD player, game boy, Walkman and so.
So the question is totaly legitime. I do personnaly think that it's forbiden and against the rules. That said, I'd used my camera in that situtation. Flying Delta in late March, I still don't know what I will do. I will love to shot ATL on landing and take off, and MCO to.
One can figure that there is a certain level of tolerance, considering the amount of picture that we could find here!
Mich From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3997 times:
I took pics from the exit row window on a united 757 during takeoff at KOA. F/A sitting in front of me said nothing. Also pics on NW showing F/A how some takeoff pics came out after dl to laptop. Used electronic canon 20d, said nothing.
This whole electronic thing under 10,000 feet though has no merit. Whens last time the FAA determined a crash to be caused by a camcorder or cell phone on take off. Where is the incident report showing a cell phone caused a plane to be off 500 feet on ILS or way points were so far off they ran out of gas.?
Millions of flight hours a year yet all the pics on a.net and videos on flight350.com and curiously no problems..
Rpaillard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3958 times:
Well, I could understand that below certain flight levels it could be dangerous to handle electronic. It's not only a matter of wave spreading. In case of emergency, PAX must be ready to act fast regarding FA directions.
For the Cell Phone concern, it could be an issue if dozen of hungry/angry cells phone looks at the same time for radio signal. It will spread a huge quantity of radio wave at the same time. Do not forget that recent phone (3G) could send and receive at a pretty high level.
FCC regulation on the cell phone in flight,yes, not FAA. When the announcement is made, the terminalogy is "Federal regulations prohibit...."
which includes the FCC, too.
This was explained to me by a lead F/A on a NW trip a few months ago.
There is NO LAW on using a camera on board an airliner.
There are a lot of people including cops an airline employees that think so, but there is not.
If two people agree on EVERYTHING, then one isn't necessary.
M404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2249 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3762 times:
Just a guess perhaps it's just that the dont want a lot of cameras, or anything else that was hand held, flying loose in the cabin during a rough landing or worse situation. As for laws IsItSafenow is right as far as I know. Yes, I use my digital and film cam all the time inflight and have only been told not to except in other less developed or military controled countries.
Less sarcasm and more thought equal better understanding
Another example where A.netters, those that SHOULD know better, deliberately break FAA regulations and tell others how to do it (and that it's ok)
We can argue for years about whether it can cause interference or not - that is irrelevant - it's an electronic device.
I do know better, I know that the only reason my camera might not be allowed on take off and landing is in case it flies out of my hand and injures another pax. That's why I keep a vice like grip with the strap wraped firmly round my hand so it wouldn't go anywhere in the event of an incident even if I lost my grip.
You are a member of this forum and presumably enjoy the excellent photos on this site -some of the best of which (IMO) are those taken through the window on t/o and landing. It really isn't such a big deal. I would if asked by a crew member to put my camera away, do it but until then I'll plede ignorance.
There are many more serious regulations broken on pretty much every flight to moan about than cameras such as standing when the seatbelt sign is on. That is disobeying crew orders. Using a camera isn't until someone tells me not to.
check out 121.306 as well as the fact that it is illegal to disobey crew orders. Every flight has the spiel at the beginning that PED's are not to be used below 10,000 feet. That is a crew order. End of Story.