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Azteca To JFK And Starts TLC Operations!  
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4089 times:

ZE has uploaded to the systems it's new flights:

ZE 500 PBC-MTY 07:20 08:40 B737
ZE 500 MTY-JFK 09:40 15:00 B737
ZE 501 JFK-MTY 16:30 19:50 B737
ZE 501 MTY-PBC 20:40 22:00 B737

Flights will be flown 2X on 2 and 4. AM is currently flying 3X from MTY on 1,3,5. When they reinstalled the flights they said they were keeping them only if new competitors appear on scene.

OTOH, on Saturdays ZE will launch TLC-HMO flights. But I see no return flights! Nor how ZE will fly in order to get it's 737 to TLC.

6A's return to JFK if they also decide to go MTY-JFK soon it's going to be hard!

Weird things going on at several airports and airlines!

ghost77 APM


Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4070 times:

Wow.

What model 737 is ZE using for these flights?

It is 2900km MTY-JFK.
Since the flights are loaded ZE has obviously done their homework, but,

MTY is at 390m above sea level. Not that high, equivalent to LAS or PHX. (actually LAS is a bit higher in elevation...)

Will that produce a weight penalty? I'm thinking of a typical summer day in MTY when the temperature sits at around 35 degrees.

Good thing these flights don't go to JFK nonstop from PBC! They'd never make it!

Is there a better website for Azteca? This one I have, never seems to work right. http://azteca.cubika.com/index.html only has GDL-MEX for flight choices....



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User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1393 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4050 times:

It seems AM will gradually scale down their MTY-JFK

They are still flying it 3x. However, by April (according to Amadeus), they will be flying only 1x (Monday). By May, ZE will have 3x and AM 0x.

PZ



Next flight: IAH-DBX-MRU-ANT
User currently onlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3045 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4026 times:

Ouch for 6A, seems like Azteca has taken this route away from them. If 6A had gotten aircraft with a longer range I'm sure they would be the ones opening this route. The latest 6A can jump on this route would be sometime next year as thats when the third carrier out MTY would go into effect(I need to corrected on this if I'm wrong).

Azteca needs to get a real network going here, instead of adding routes here and there.

Quoting Stirling (Reply 1):
What model 737 is ZE using for these flights?

They're probably going to use the 737NG.

Quoting Stirling (Reply 1):
Is there a better website for Azteca? This one I have, never seems to work right. http://azteca.cubika.com/index.html

I haven't been to the Azteca website in a long time, but with what just saw, they better get their act together and fix that website if they want to stay one step ahead of new comers.


User currently offlineMTYFREAK From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 377 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3996 times:

well, hopefully we'll see a nice introduction fare on the MTY-JFK!

It would be nice if ZE had LCC fares on their international routes.



Only here for the beer...
User currently offlineFyano773 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3966 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 1):
Is there a better website for Azteca? This one I have, never seems to work right. http://azteca.cubika.com/index.html only has GDL-MEX for flight choices....

Try:

http://www.aazteca.com.mx

Regards...


User currently onlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3045 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3947 times:

Quoting Fyano773 (Reply 5):

Thanks for that link Fyanno.


User currently offlineEdelag From Mexico, joined Dec 2005, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3829 times:

If MTY-JFK flight are so loaded, why is AM backing up? It would be interesting to see AM, ZE, and 6A competing more intensely face to face.


It's not just the destination, it's the journey.
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7591 posts, RR: 42
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3809 times:

Quoting Edelag (Reply 7):
It would be interesting to see AM, ZE, and 6A competing more intensely face to face.

Yes, it is interesting that AM is retreating when they should be doing the opposite. Daily MTY-JFK service from AM would be awesome... I sure would not mind flying to TLC-MTY-JFK-MTY-TLC with 5D and AM



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4050 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3726 times:
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Is ZE a full service carrier or an LCC? Do they offer meals, etc..?

I'm surprised there are not any mainline flights from LAX-MTY. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

LACA773


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3681 times:

What terminal will Azteca use?

User currently offlineXA744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3680 times:

Well, kindly allow me to ask: What is the market base that could sustain a PBC-MTY-JFK ?

I mean, if the new flight is mainly catering to business travellers, I tend to think that 2, 3, or even 4 x weekly would be very insufficient to cope with corporate traffic demand. If OTOH this new operation is tapping the low yield leisure or ethnic segments, well, it might as well work very well. I don´t know.

In any case, from the financial perspective, I think ZE is venturing itself into a costly and very risky business with this new operation.

Best regards



No matter how you fly...just never get your wings clipped !
User currently onlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3045 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

Quoting LACA773 (Reply 9):
I'm surprised there are not any mainline flights from LAX-MTY. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Aviacsa has a 1X daily flight with 732.

Quoting LACA773 (Reply 9):
Is ZE a full service carrier or an LCC? Do they offer meals, etc..?

They're LCC, but about them serving meals and stuff I don't know. Maybe someone can fill us on this.


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3615 times:

Yes, they serve meals on board and drinks for free!

ghost77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7591 posts, RR: 42
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3592 times:

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 13):
they serve meals on board and drinks for free!

Hot meals and alcoholic drinks, right?



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3590 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 14):
Hot meals and alcoholic drinks, right?

Depends on the route! Sometimes they just give you a salad or small sandwhich. Early morning flights usually have hot meals. Yes, Alcoholic drinks.

ghost77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1393 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3558 times:

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 12):
Aviacsa has a 1X daily flight with 732.

Make it 2x daily.

PZ



Next flight: IAH-DBX-MRU-ANT
User currently onlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3045 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3549 times:

Quoting Pzurita1 (Reply 16):

Thanks for that correction Zurita. I knew they flew 2x daily but I wasnt sure.  spin 


User currently offlineAnthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3533 times:

Has 6A ever thought about a new c/s? or Do they just like what they have?

6A represent Mexico's southeast with it's jungles and mayan culture. So, why are they so cold?



Over 80 years in business say a lot about success
User currently offlineMTYFREAK From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 377 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3517 times:

Quoting Anthsaun (Reply 18):
why are they so cold?

I was asking the same thing the other day,

they do need an extreme makeover,

maybe a new fleet as well.



Only here for the beer...
User currently offlineAnthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3489 times:

Airline managers think nobody cares about the kind of aircraft and how old it is. But every body always look for the best looking aircraft, and every body can tell from an old one to a new one.

What I mean is that the new kids on the airport are getting new atractive toys with a cool look in the inside.



Over 80 years in business say a lot about success
User currently offlineN405MX From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1378 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3465 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 1):
Will that produce a weight penalty? I'm thinking of a typical summer day in MTY when the temperature sits at around 35 degrees.

Wait for the 42-44°C (and the weight penalty reach the 1T).....

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 8):
I sure would not mind flying to TLC-MTY-JFK-MTY-TLC with 5D and AM

And with the new fares being offered, less you will mind.

Saludos



Life is what happens when you have other plans.....
User currently offlineMYRIJET From Mexico, joined Jan 2005, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3432 times:

Quoting Ghost77 (Thread starter):
OTOH, on Saturdays ZE will launch TLC-HMO flights. But I see no return flights! Nor how ZE will fly in order to get it's 737 to TLC.

The mystery continues........

Where does the plane come from?

Why only 1x weekly?

Why the low fares are sold out, when nobody knows about the flight?

They start this cumming Saturday, that s 2 days from now.No previous announcement of any kind.

Besides the Big hangar, no place yet for check-in in the under-construction airport.

Very strange....


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3335 times:

Well, sure a lot of mystery seen with ZE. ZE's people are the only persons that understand their business model... but, as we speak, finally its new destinations have been launched to their site. TLC, PBC and JFK have just appeared.

Apparently they will fly MEX-TLC-HMO-TIJ-MEX and MEX-PBC-MTY-JFK-PBC-MEX. They're also considering MEX-ONT-MEX. Lots new flights, sure some frequencies reduction in other destinations as at least as of now, no new aircraft have entered the fleet.

ghost77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineLasbagman From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3246 times:

What happened to Azteca's planned service to LAS ?
they were supposed to begin service a back in November ...


25 Mty77 : Azteca published a small ad today in EL NORTE for the PBC-MTY-JFK route, 200 USD plus taxes for a one way MTY-JFK and about 321 USD plus taxes, if I r
26 Pzurita1 : Mty77, Thanks. I was looking for fares MTY-JFK as Azteca website is very crappy when it comes to rates. PZ
27 Post contains images MTY2GVA : In the website it says that the plane is a 737-300 I was hoping it was an NG. With this new azteca flight I can connect from the Swiss Flight from GVA
28 Pzurita1 : MTY2GVA, And when are you plannig to visit us in MTY? We could manage another Avioncitos meeting. PZ
29 Ghost77 : Well they haven't cx anything to the DOT. I think route still has to be authorized for them to fly TLC-LAS. They just started last week TLC-HMO-TIJ.
30 MTY2GVA : I was just there for my wedding a month ago. I hope I can be there anytime soon. But since Im just back from my honeymoon its probably unlikely that
31 RJpieces : Does anyone know for sure what terminal they are using at JFK? I could have sworn I saw her at Terminal 1 last night, but JFK's website says they are
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