Ghost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5130 posts, RR: 53 Posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2760 times:
ZE has uploaded to the systems it's new flights:
ZE 500 PBC-MTY 07:20 08:40 B737
ZE 500 MTY-JFK 09:40 15:00 B737
ZE 501 JFK-MTY 16:30 19:50 B737
ZE 501 MTY-PBC 20:40 22:00 B737
Flights will be flown 2X on 2 and 4. AM is currently flying 3X from MTY on 1,3,5. When they reinstalled the flights they said they were keeping them only if new competitors appear on scene.
OTOH, on Saturdays ZE will launch TLC-HMO flights. But I see no return flights! Nor how ZE will fly in order to get it's 737 to TLC.
6A's return to JFK if they also decide to go MTY-JFK soon it's going to be hard!
Weird things going on at several airports and airlines!
ghost77 APM
Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
Stirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 27 Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2741 times:
Wow.
What model 737 is ZE using for these flights?
It is 2900km MTY-JFK.
Since the flights are loaded ZE has obviously done their homework, but,
MTY is at 390m above sea level. Not that high, equivalent to LAS or PHX. (actually LAS is a bit higher in elevation...)
Will that produce a weight penalty? I'm thinking of a typical summer day in MTY when the temperature sits at around 35 degrees.
Good thing these flights don't go to JFK nonstop from PBC! They'd never make it!
Is there a better website for Azteca? This one I have, never seems to work right. http://azteca.cubika.com/index.html only has GDL-MEX for flight choices....
Mexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 2961 posts, RR: 30 Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2697 times:
Ouch for 6A, seems like Azteca has taken this route away from them. If 6A had gotten aircraft with a longer range I'm sure they would be the ones opening this route. The latest 6A can jump on this route would be sometime next year as thats when the third carrier out MTY would go into effect(I need to corrected on this if I'm wrong).
Azteca needs to get a real network going here, instead of adding routes here and there.
Quoting Stirling (Reply 1): What model 737 is ZE using for these flights?
I haven't been to the Azteca website in a long time, but with what just saw, they better get their act together and fix that website if they want to stay one step ahead of new comers.
Mexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 2961 posts, RR: 30 Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2618 times:
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7250 posts, RR: 45 Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2480 times:
Quoting Edelag (Reply 7): It would be interesting to see AM, ZE, and 6A competing more intensely face to face.
Yes, it is interesting that AM is retreating when they should be doing the opposite. Daily MTY-JFK service from AM would be awesome... I sure would not mind flying to TLC-MTY-JFK-MTY-TLC with 5D and AM
LACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3752 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2397 times:
Is ZE a full service carrier or an LCC? Do they offer meals, etc..?
I'm surprised there are not any mainline flights from LAX-MTY. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
XA744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2351 times:
Well, kindly allow me to ask: What is the market base that could sustain a PBC-MTY-JFK ?
I mean, if the new flight is mainly catering to business travellers, I tend to think that 2, 3, or even 4 x weekly would be very insufficient to cope with corporate traffic demand. If OTOH this new operation is tapping the low yield leisure or ethnic segments, well, it might as well work very well. I don´t know.
In any case, from the financial perspective, I think ZE is venturing itself into a costly and very risky business with this new operation.
Best regards
No matter how you fly...just never get your wings clipped !
Mexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 2961 posts, RR: 30 Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2319 times:
Quoting LACA773 (Reply 9): I'm surprised there are not any mainline flights from LAX-MTY. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Aviacsa has a 1X daily flight with 732.
Quoting LACA773 (Reply 9): Is ZE a full service carrier or an LCC? Do they offer meals, etc..?
They're LCC, but about them serving meals and stuff I don't know. Maybe someone can fill us on this.
Mexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 2961 posts, RR: 30 Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2220 times:
Anthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 543 posts, RR: 3 Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2160 times:
Airline managers think nobody cares about the kind of aircraft and how old it is. But every body always look for the best looking aircraft, and every body can tell from an old one to a new one.
What I mean is that the new kids on the airport are getting new atractive toys with a cool look in the inside.
N405MX From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1378 posts, RR: 11 Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2136 times:
Quoting Stirling (Reply 1): Will that produce a weight penalty? I'm thinking of a typical summer day in MTY when the temperature sits at around 35 degrees.
Wait for the 42-44°C (and the weight penalty reach the 1T).....
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 8): I sure would not mind flying to TLC-MTY-JFK-MTY-TLC with 5D and AM
And with the new fares being offered, less you will mind.
Saludos
Life is what happens when you have other plans.....
MYRIJET From Mexico, joined Jan 2005, 100 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2103 times:
Quoting Ghost77 (Thread starter): OTOH, on Saturdays ZE will launch TLC-HMO flights. But I see no return flights! Nor how ZE will fly in order to get it's 737 to TLC.
The mystery continues........
Where does the plane come from?
Why only 1x weekly?
Why the low fares are sold out, when nobody knows about the flight?
They start this cumming Saturday, that s 2 days from now.No previous announcement of any kind.
Besides the Big hangar, no place yet for check-in in the under-construction airport.
Ghost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5130 posts, RR: 53 Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2006 times:
Well, sure a lot of mystery seen with ZE. ZE's people are the only persons that understand their business model... but, as we speak, finally its new destinations have been launched to their site. TLC, PBC and JFK have just appeared.
Apparently they will fly MEX-TLC-HMO-TIJ-MEX and MEX-PBC-MTY-JFK-PBC-MEX. They're also considering MEX-ONT-MEX. Lots new flights, sure some frequencies reduction in other destinations as at least as of now, no new aircraft have entered the fleet.
ghost77 APM
Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
Lasbagman From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 366 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1917 times:
What happened to Azteca's planned service to LAS ?
they were supposed to begin service a back in November ...
25 Mty77: Azteca published a small ad today in EL NORTE for the PBC-MTY-JFK route, 200 USD plus taxes for a one way MTY-JFK and about 321 USD plus taxes, if I r
26 Pzurita1: Mty77, Thanks. I was looking for fares MTY-JFK as Azteca website is very crappy when it comes to rates. PZ
27 MTY2GVA: In the website it says that the plane is a 737-300 I was hoping it was an NG. With this new azteca flight I can connect from the Swiss Flight from GVA
28 Pzurita1: MTY2GVA, And when are you plannig to visit us in MTY? We could manage another Avioncitos meeting. PZ
29 Ghost77: Well they haven't cx anything to the DOT. I think route still has to be authorized for them to fly TLC-LAS. They just started last week TLC-HMO-TIJ.
30 MTY2GVA: I was just there for my wedding a month ago. I hope I can be there anytime soon. But since Im just back from my honeymoon its probably unlikely that
31 RJpieces: Does anyone know for sure what terminal they are using at JFK? I could have sworn I saw her at Terminal 1 last night, but JFK's website says they are