2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4484 times:
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MEM - FedEx?
ANC - Mainly due Transborder Cargo Traffic, not that many cargo aircraft have the range to fly between Asia and Northamerica non-stop.
Seoul - Which one, GMP or ICN ?
Louisville - DHL or UPS?
PHX - I'm surprised to see it in the top dozen, I would have expected IAH, MCO, SFO or CGH to be there instead of PHX.
Dalb777 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4473 times:
I'm suprised how much bigger Memphis is than Louisville in terms of cargo. Is FedEx that much bigger than UPS?
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N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4420 times:
Quoting Superhub (Reply 1): Did HKG lose out its top spot as the world's largest cargo airport?
Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 4): I'm suprised how much bigger Memphis is than Louisville in terms of cargo. Is FedEx that much bigger than UPS?
It is not so much size of carrier, but size of hub. FedEx sends damn near everything through the MEM superhub while UPS has significant operations at other airports.
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Bond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5098 posts, RR: 8 Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4397 times:
Remember those are 2004 figures!
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Avianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5857 posts, RR: 40 Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4292 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 5): Quoting Superhub (Reply 1):
Did HKG lose out its top spot as the world's largest cargo airport?
A while ago
Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 2):
Louisville - DHL or UPS?
UPS.
Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 2):
MEM - FedEx?
Absolutely
Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 4):
I'm suprised how much bigger Memphis is than Louisville in terms of cargo. Is FedEx that much bigger than UPS?
It is not so much size of carrier, but size of hub. FedEx sends damn near everything through the MEM superhub while UPS has significant operations at other airports.
BristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2135 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4153 times:
Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 2):
PHX - I'm surprised to see it in the top dozen, I would have expected IAH, MCO, SFO or CGH to be there instead of PHX.
Quite the contrary, according to PHX's website today they are the 6th largest in the US (according to this thread they're the 7th in the US).
SSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1276 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4129 times:
Way to go, Schipol. Amsterdam, in the tiny country of Holland (The Netherlands) has positioned it self long ago as a major world airport and transfer center in Europe. 'Can't stop those enterprising Dutch.
One assumes JFK would once have been on the top of both lists or close to it. How things have changed.
Carpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2769 posts, RR: 4 Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3860 times:
NRT used to be #1 for handling cargo. Look where its now. Due to slot limitations, it probably has been overtaken by ANC and soon by ICN. LAX & co. isn't too far behind either.
CPH757 From Denmark, joined Sep 2005, 684 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3800 times:
Quoting Superhub (Reply 1): Did HKG lose out its top spot as the world's largest cargo airport?
Perhaps CAN and SZX is taking some of the traffic? I would imagine that these airports, especially CAN, will figure higher on cargo rank lists in the future.
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Waleckdaddy From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 39 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3725 times:
How the heck are Vegas and Phoenix in the top twelve? Look at the amount of gates, the hub airlines (Which are doing well, but not THAT well), and lack of non-stop overseas passengers!!! Seriously. Where is JFK, MSP, IAH, etc...? Maybe their flights are just empty compared to America West and Southwest? Vegas is a popular final destination, but come on - it is a secondary hub for HP and a mini hub for Southwest: two airlines not even in the top 5!! Phoenix is not a big final destination (Possibly for business travel though), and again serves merely as a hub of an airline not even in the top 5!! I guess numbers don't lie, but that doesn't mean that they make sense. Any thoughts/input would be greatly appreciated! TaTa
Bond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5098 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3644 times:
Sovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2339 posts, RR: 14 Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3401 times:
Can someone explain to me why Atlanta is the busiest? What makes that city/airport so important that so many people fly there? New York isn't even in the top 12 but Atlanta is first? Why would more people go to Atlanta lol?
PanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2601 posts, RR: 10 Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3381 times:
Quoting Sovietjet (Reply 17): New York isn't even in the top 12 but Atlanta is first? Why would more people go to Atlanta lol?
Well for one, NYC has three main airports in which it's traffic is divided (EWR, JFK and LGA), therefore it's no surprise to those who think about it. As for ATL- have you seen DL's departure stats recently? They serve over 200 destinations, with hundreds (in the 600s now, correct?) of daily flights. Then there is AirTran with their decent-sized main hub, and all of the other carriers that serve one of America's larger cities. Think of the companies that are headquartered there- Coca-Cola, The Home Depot, UPS, BellSouth and Delta itself. That could do it.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3381 times:
Quoting HT (Reply 7): Is the figure for LAS correct?
With this number of pax it should be positioned in #9 i.e. between CDG and AMS ...
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Quoting Waleckdaddy (Reply 15): it is a secondary hub for HP and a mini hub for Southwest: two airlines not even in the top 5!!
What in the world are you talking about? LAS has actually been HP's primary focus for build up lately and is nearing the size of PHX. Also, WN is the number 1 domestic carrier in the US and number 2 or 3 by total passengers in the US, with LAS and PHX being their two largest destinations. Of course they get a lot of passengers.
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Bond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5098 posts, RR: 8 Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3381 times:
Quoting Sovietjet (Reply 17): New York isn't even in the top 12 but Atlanta is first?
Because there is no one airport called 'New York'.
ATL has as many daily flights as EWR, JFK, and LGA combined (or almost).
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Bohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2407 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3345 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 5): It is not so much size of carrier, but size of hub. FedEx sends damn near everything through the MEM superhub while UPS has significant operations at other airports.
Let me just add that most UPS shipments are shipped by ground.
Quoting Sovietjet (Reply 17): Can someone explain to me why Atlanta is the busiest?
There is a saying that when a southerner dies and goes to heaven, he must go through Atlanta.
B752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3322 times:
Quoting Bohica (Reply 21): Quoting Sovietjet (Reply 17):
Can someone explain to me why Atlanta is the busiest?
There is a saying that when a southerner dies and goes to heaven, he must go through Atlanta.
If you look at what DL does out of the airport in terms of service its crazy, they have well over 1,000 daily flights to over 190 destinations. I am sure there are more, someone correct me if that was wrong. ATL is basically a connecting airport, as DL is the dominant carrier in the southern region of the country, I would say its a safe bet to estimate that well more than 50% of the total pax nummbers are connecting passengers. That's not to say that ATL does not have a large amount of a O&D pax, ATL service a large metro area with a ton of big business.
BristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2135 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3176 times:
Quoting Bohica (Reply 21): There is a saying that when a southerner dies and goes to heaven, he must go through Atlanta.
So ATL has a wide catchment area then? I've been there a number of times but never been to the city itself - I guess like a lit of users of ATL.
Carpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2769 posts, RR: 4 Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3078 times:
Also in a few years, PVG & PEK will crack the top 12 displacing either AMS, DEN, LAS or PHX. A few years beyond that will be DXB.
Despite the invasion of RJ to most US airports, LAS has been virtually immune to this phenomena.
25 MarshalN: The Japanese aviation system is so messed up
26 N1120A: Well, except for the CR9s, but that is more a capacity issue for HP Given the extreme growth at LAS in both tourist traffic and population, they like
27 Crownvic: N1120A...Actually, LAS has already passed DEN. The big hurdle now comes for the next in line, which is DFW. Based on the latest figures (not from this
28 AAden: i'm not so sure I was sure chicago was #1 i was watching the discovery channel and there was show on chicagos accident prevention team, it was about
29 2travel2know: Making the International Terminal a connected part of the whole complex would be a start. LAS could be using those under-used international gates for
30 HT: Have you got any idea how old that show was? In recent years, both AA and UA had to cut numerous flights at ORD due to the worsened traffic situation
31 IBERIA747: RICARIZA's info is right. Currently no airport in the whole planet handles 100 million pax. Putting O'Hare and Midway together it can approach the 10
32 N1120A: Very interesting The thing about all three of those airports is that they really only ever had limited potential anyway. LGA was put where it was bec
33 AADC10: Maybe, maybe not. AMS DEN LAS and PHX will continue to grow as well while domestic growth at PEK and PVG will be limited by the comparatively low cos
34 2travel2know: Don't you forget HKG has MFM accross the bay and MFM is supposed to have cheaper operating costs than HKG. The area where DCA is located (Arlington C
35 Vega: Here is the latest worldwide ranking of airports based on number of aircraft operations: http://www.airports.org/cda/aci/disp...nt.jsp?zn=aci&cp=1-5-2
36 Bond007: This thread is all about passengers. Jimbo
37 HT: .. and freight. But I agree, it is NOT about "a/c movements". -HT
38 AM744: My guess is this: (Huge connecting traffic + Good OD traffic) > (Small connecting traffic + Huge OD traffic)
39 AAden: thanx i stand corrected http://www.airports.org/cda/aci/disp...nt.jsp?zn=aci&cp=1-5-212-231_9_2__ this may have been what i was talking about
40 MarshalN: MFM is tiny and has no space. I don't think the city's infrastructure can support a high cargo load. Traffic from HKG to MFM is also terrible, so if
41 SJCRRPAX: Having changed planes a few times in PHX this does not surprize me. Everytime I have been there it was crazy busy, looked more like a NY subway at ru
42 Bdl2dca: To put it all to rest. DCA is now and has always been in Arlington, VA. Arlington, originally Alexandria County of the District of Columbia, was retr
43 Bullpitt: Hi All Do you think MAD will finally make the jump to position number 12 ahead of Phoenix?. Do you have the figures for MAD for the same year?
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