Hiflyer From United States, joined Nov 2004, 1299 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 489 times:
Interesting....NWALPA did as expected and sided with the mainline carrier to take regional flying at the expense of potential/actual RJ members. I fully expect that this trend is going to continue and that any ALPA RJ members flying 70 seat or more aircraft may become a vanishing breed in favor of their senior mainline brethren.
As it appears that NWA now has the FLYI certificate that gives them the ability for the subsidiary to operate airbus...not saying they would but it is on the ticket they picked up.
NWA is breaking new ground here...DALPA folks surely are watching this one closely.
Apodino From United States, joined Apr 2005, 1809 posts, RR: 5 Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 453 times:
Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 1): As it appears that NWA now has the FLYI certificate that gives them the ability for the subsidiary to operate airbus...not saying they would but it is on the ticket they picked up
This could become a major problem for NW pilots if this is true. If NW has both the NW and the FlyI certificates, all that NW would have to do is transfer flying to the other certificate and fly it under a different name. And I don't think the pilots would have to be unionized either. Think of three airlines named texas international, eastern, and continental, and a man named Frank Lorenzo. Also, the same thing that Guilford is doing with Pan Am and B and M.
Bucky707 From United States, joined Aug 2000, 1009 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 337 times:
Quoting Vincewy (Reply 3): Victory?? WTF?? It's a lose-lose situation, no one wins.
why do you assume it's a lose-lose situation? Outsourcing is not the answer to all of Northwest's problems and very often creates others. If a deal has been struck where NW can fly these airplanes profitably without outsourcing them, how is that lose-lose?
SX36 From United States, joined Jan 2006, 73 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 311 times:
This is just a general statement concerning NW in bankruptcy and the members of this board. It is not meant to be offensive to anybody......but it seems to me that the majority of people express a very anti-NW sentiment.
Personally I see the pilot contract a victory for all sides envolved. First, the pilots, while making their pay cuts perminant, will get to fly the smaller jets set aside for Pinnacle, and oh by the way keep their jobs. I read in an article that the new contract was like a grieving process. At first there was anger and disbelief, but then they got over it and looked at the positives, and moved on.
NW management got their way, big shock there, but it seems to me they had to in order to keep the airline afloat. All I ask management to do is remember how much their employees gave up to keep NW alive for another day, and before they ask them for more, perhaps they should give up some.
And even Pinnacle comes out a winner. They still get to fly the 50 -seat and under sized jets. And while the mainline pilot contract may be a temporary setback for Pinnacle, it may just keep NW alive and growing later on down the road, and the regional carriers will grow as well.
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