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User currently offlineHVNandrew From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 435 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5154 times:

New air service takes off on Hyannis to Nantucket route
By Peter A. Sutters Jr.

I&M Staff Writer

A new company will soon test the waters – actually the air – of the Hyannis-to-Nantucket commuter transportation market and hopes to be up and flying by mid-month.

Doing business as The Shuttle, president, pilot and Nantucket native Mark Conway said after an evaluation of air service between Nantucket Memorial Airport and Barnstable Airport, he decided there was room for a third commuter airline to serve the 300,000 to 320,000 people that Cape Air/Nantucket Air and Island Airlines bring back and forth between the mainland and island each year.

“Forty dollars a pop equals around $12 million a year that has been split between the two,” said Conway. “We want a piece of that action.”

Conway said he hopes to have service between Nantucket and the mainland up and running by March 13 with four Cessna 402s, with two more Cessna 414s coming on line about a month later. The new airline will employ 10 pilots and four ground-crew members, two in Hyannis and two on Nantucket. At the Barnstable airport, the airline will occupy the old Continental terminal, while at Nantucket Memorial Airport, it will be tucked in the corner near the car rental desk and Nantucket Police kiosk.

Although Conway said the airline will carry anyone who wants to make the trip, the service will target commuters and will peg its single-ticket fares on the cost of commuter books offered by the other two airlines, currently about $400 for a 10-ticket book.
In addition to offering commuter-book prices without having to buy multiple tickets, The Shuttle will offer even deeper discounts on non-peak trips.

On Monday mornings, flights coming from Hyannis will be full, but the return trip will be empty. His solution is to fill those seats on the return flight by selling tickets for $29.95, which is cheaper than regular-price tickets on both fast ferries that service the island.

One potential snag in the plan is the name, which Conway wanted and still hopes to be Nantucket Shuttle Inc., which Cape Air has claimed it owns. It seems the dispute will be settled by the consumer affairs office of the state Department of Transportation.

“It’s in the hands of the lawyers on both sides,” said Cape Air spokeswoman Michelle Haynes. “We’ve used ‘Nantucket Shuttle’ for well over a decade, but whatever happens, it appears there is going to be a third airline servicing Nantucket.”

While Cape Air may have been using the term “Nantucket Shuttle” for over a decade, it appears they may not have kept up to date in protecting the moniker.

Jim Peters, a spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration confirmed that it appeared Cape Air had let its rights to the name lapse for the past year, but did say the final decision was up to the Department of Transportation. He did say that Horizon Air Charter, doing business as Nantucket Shuttle Inc., had applied for and received all appropriate certifications to start flying whenever they are ready.

Conway said for now, the company will be called The Shuttle and will add “Nantucket” to its name once the dispute is settled in the near future.

Conway said that Cape Air has used the term “The Nantucket Shuttle” on its web site, but not as a name, rather as a claim that they are “The” Nantucket shuttle and he is confident that the issue will be resolved in his favor.

“They think they own every word and every tag line on their website,” said Conway. “They let the name lapse for over a year so I went and grabbed it.”

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User currently offlineMajorNelson From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5128 times:

If only someone doing these island-hopper routes couold find it possible to use something other than those raunchy 402s. Surely by now, there's gotta be a better and more comfortable alternative.

What would be the feasibility of that smaller Beech model 1300 ? StatesWest operated them out in CA as a USAir Express aircraft in the 90s. And they're cute! Look:


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User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5109 times:

What about some BE1s/J31s/Twin Otters to serve the route????

User currently offlineUSXguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1013 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5089 times:

Twin Otters are very expensive to operate.... A Beech & J31 are a bit overkill for the market, and you are talking Part 121 operations.. not Part 135...


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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5060 times:
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They could use the Pilatus PC-12's.

User currently offlineMajorNelson From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5041 times:

Or, there's always "The Shed"!


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AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!  yuck  Just kidding! Had to throw it in tho. LOL

I worked for PBA years ago - and I know how awful those Cessna 402s were -- and that was back in 1985! And my guess is it's all the ex-PBA birds that are still being flown by these Island-Hopper carriers of today! S-C-A-R-Y !!

My vote is still for the Beech KingAir (if i recollect, US used to call it a Beech 1300 in the CRS). Only 13 seats -- as opposed to 19 on a 1900 ... and only 8 on a Cesspool 402.

Are these piston-powered 402s really more economical than a t-prop?

Tony


User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5006 times:

This might be hard to accomplish, especially in the off season. The ACK and HYA natives are very partial to Nantucket Air and Island Air (and 9K for that fact.)


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User currently offlineLymanm From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4992 times:

Great news, I know Mark personally and have flown with him several times. He's part of the construction industry, and has an in with them, so loyalty to the incumbents may not be as sure a thing. Contractors living on the Cape going to ACK for higher wages is a big piece of Cape Air & Island Air's biz.

Why 402/414s? Besides a Piper Navajo, which is basically the same thing, there is no other twin-engine, piston, commuter sized aircraft out there. Using a turbine engine for such a short hop (15 minutes) is really expensive - both in terms of maintenance, and fuel burn. Turbine engines are not made for such extreme, short cycles, nor are they particularly fuel efficient at 500 feet.



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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3412 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4970 times:

Caravans (C-408) could work as well...

User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2996 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4930 times:

Quoting MajorNelson (Reply 1):
And they're cute!

Especially with that PSA-style grin.  Smile

Seriously, I would think that Caravans might work on that route, but maybe the economics (including what I imagine would be a relatively high acquisition cost) just don't make sense.



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User currently offlineGeorgiabill From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4913 times:
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How about a BAE Jetsream 31 or Beechcraft 1900D. Yes a bit of over kill but perhaps may work especially in summers

User currently offlineGeorgiabill From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4850 times:
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I think it would be good if this new airline also offered service from ACK to BOS, PVD BDL and LGA at some point. I think service from both BOS and PVD may be successful.

User currently offlineShamrock133 From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4762 times:

Quoting MajorNelson (Reply 5):
Are these piston-powered 402s really more economical than a t-prop?

On shorts flights, such as HYA-ACK(15mins) Yes!

I work for Cape Air in Boston and would love to see a bigger plane for busy summer time routes such as BOS-ACK.....our passengers always have lots of oversized bags and with the C402 its a struggle to fit everything.



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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3412 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4703 times:

Quoting Georgiabill (Reply 11):
I think service from both BOS and PVD may be successful.

9K's is...

I doubt we'll see it happen though.


User currently offlineViscount630 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4676 times:
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Quoting MajorNelson (Reply 5):
Or, there's always "The Shed"!

AHA! See "MajorNelson" - I always knew you loved the "Shed" as much as me REALLY - despite the constant denials!  highfive   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   Wink

Seriously, for a "Puddle-Jump" like that, unpressurised (thus, cheaper to maintain) and a roomy enough cabin for a short hop, the dear old "Shatsie" might well do well. Good luck finding many passenger 330s or 360s available these days though.  pessimist 

M.



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