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Future United Destinations?  
User currently offlineUAL#1fan From United States of America, joined May 2001, 88 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3811 times:

With the possibility of a SFO-CAN route opening up, anyone here see any further expansion plans for UA? In the wake of Delta's aggressive expansion, I just thought I'd ask.

Since United's primary target is the business traveler, I see future routes going to areas with high concentrations of commerce. CAN is an example of this. In light of that argument, I could see United starting service back up to MXP or DEL, and maybe even expanding to BOM. The new code-share service with South African will bring Star Alliance routes to Johannesburg, so no need to expand there.

Perhaps instead UA will continue to focus on expanding into the Caribbean...

Any thoughts?


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User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3804 times:

I am surprised they have not tried to expand in Asia and become the dominant US carrier to the region. For them to try and emulate Delta, I personally feel they will fail on all the new European routes out of ATL, woould be unreasonable given thier current standing.

What about some weekly frequencies to places like TPE, or BKK?
Perhaps some European expansion out of IAD or ORD?


User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3599 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3795 times:

Actullay I would not be surprised if UA starts looking to Africa and South Asia more. They have a very extensive route in East Asia and the Pacific and need to put their efforts in other areas as well.

I could see JNB as a code-share from MIA (UA and MIA thread a while back) and from ORD. I would not be surprised if eventually CPT is also served.

I personally would like to see UA offer more flights that over-fly Japan or offer flights to more U.S. destinations from Japan (but not NRT). However UA really needs to expand to new markets where they do not have a large presence.



Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineJet-lagged From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 877 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3751 times:

C'mon NRT!

But I suspect ANA will serve the route first.


User currently offlineLot767sp-lpa From Poland, joined May 2002, 161 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3733 times:

Probably UA will start new route Washington to Warsaw after new terminal will be opend next year at Okecie Airport

User currently offlineSimpilicity From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3733 times:

LAX/BNE or SFO/BNE?

QF NOW FLY LAX/BNE 5/week so they must know something & it's shorter than LAX/SYD & SFO/SYD so weight restrictions out of west coast would be less. QF introducing SYD/SFO 3 times/week soon !!!


User currently offlineJjeff From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3733 times:

Quoting B752OS (Reply 1):
am surprised they have not tried to expand in Asia and become the dominant US carrier to the region.

They are the dominant US carrier to Asia.


User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3599 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3721 times:

Quoting B752OS (Reply 1):
What about some weekly frequencies to places like TPE, or BKK?

They already serve TPE and BKK daily.

TPE is via NGO (UA831) and NRT (UA881)
BKK is via NRT (UA837)

Are you talking non-stop?

Quoting Jet-lagged (Reply 3):
C'mon NRT!
But I suspect ANA will serve the route first.

I can dream can't I? Of Course NH will do things first. We have NGO build up, KIX build up and movement from large aircraft to small/medium with frequency to take advantage of both runways at NRT. NH will totally expand and improve their product.

As for UA. I will add a little here. Europe for UA is not going to work like CO or DL. UA has too much of a relationship with its star partners to do anything there. But Africa is just waiting to be tapped and UA I think will go in.



Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3682 times:

UA has applied to fly ORD-VIE so i would expect that to be announced in the near future.

We know they want SFO-CAN.........for me the big hole for UA in Asia is India and I feel its just a matter of time before we see them back there, in Delhi and Bombay and who knows even Bangalore, all booming business centres.

I would love to see UA operate ORD-JNB/CPT one day, but I think that might be a few years off.


User currently offlinePSA727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 974 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3638 times:

Maybe they'll go back to Santiago, Chile or start Lima, Peru.

However, if they're not going to acquire any new widebodies in the
near future, then routes that require 2 aircraft for daily utilization
are probably not at the top of the list.



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User currently offlineUAPremierGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3625 times:

Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 8):
UA has applied to fly ORD-VIE so i would expect that to be announced in the near future.

Really? That's the first I've heard of it. That is awesome news for me as both an Austrian and American citizen. What aircraft will it fly on, 767, or 777? Will IAD-VIE be a possibility, too?



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User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3548 times:

Quoting UAPremierGuy (Reply 10):
Will IAD-VIE be a possibility, too?

IAD-VIE is already flown by Austrian with a UA codeshare. I can't see United, being short of planes, flying the route, too.


User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3477 times:

Quoting Bicoastal (Reply 11):
IAD-VIE is already flown by Austrian with a UA codeshare. I can't see United, being short of planes, flying the route, too.

correct, on the ORD-VIE route this will be flown by a 767-300.....thats assuming they get the route of course.


User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3474 times:

Quoting Centrair (Reply 7):
Are you talking non-stop?

Yes, I was talking about non-stop


User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3449 times:

Some more domestic destinations out of DEN,ORD,IAD would be nice..
With RJs of course. No every city has the pleasure of having United.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3440 times:

IAD-MAN using a 767 to replace the BMI shambles  Wink


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User currently offlineUA933 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3423 times:

UA to CGN or DUS would be great using 752 a/c.


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User currently offlineSwank300 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3322 times:

"UA to CGN or DUS would be great using 752 a/c."

Didn't UA just discontinue DUS back in 2001 because the load factor or yield wasn't high enough? Also, I think Lufthansa flies to Dus from both MUC and FRA, right?


User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3267 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 15):
IAD-MAN using a 767 to replace the BMI shambles

Ament to that...why UA doesn't take over this route is beyond me, unless its just down to the fact they dont have enough aircraft?


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2780 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3259 times:

Quoting Lot767sp-lpa (Reply 4):
Probably UA will start new route Washington to Warsaw after new terminal will be opend next year at Okecie Airport

With Chicago's huge Polish population, I would think that an ORD-WAW route would be profitable.

Quoting PSA727 (Reply 9):
Maybe they'll go back to Santiago, Chile or start Lima, Peru.

I would love to see UA fly these routes direct from ORD!


User currently offlineN8334W From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3202 times:

I would love to see United bring back ORD-GDL. With such a huge Mexican population in Chicago that route should do well for them. American code shares with Mexicana (2x Daily). ATA only has 1 daily MDW-GDL and they always seem to be full. Not to mention the high yield.

User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4120 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3102 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 19):

With Chicago's huge Polish population, I would think that an ORD-WAW route would be profitable.

LOT already flies this route twice a day IIRC, and UA codeshares on those.

UA needs to focus on serving new routes that aren't served by Star partners, especially with the shortage of long haul aircraft.


User currently offlineMalpensaSFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3095 times:

Quoting PSA727 (Reply 9):
Maybe they'll go back to Santiago, Chile or start Lima, Peru.

However, if they're not going to acquire any new widebodies in the
near future, then routes that require 2 aircraft for daily utilization
are probably not at the top of the list

Lima can be flown nonstop from Washington.IAD via the 757-200. There is no problem there, CO flies EWR-LIM via the 752.

Santiago, can be fed via VARIG through GRU..


User currently offlineAADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3035 times:

Quoting UA933 (Reply 16):
UA to CGN or DUS would be great using 752 a/c.

I doubt that UA will add any Eurpoean destinations with a 752. They appear to be unwilling to fly to Eurpoean desitnations unless it can support at least a 3-class 763. There is also the problem that only p.s. 757s are 3-class and I believe that only the 2-class Hawaii planes are ETOPS. There is limited benefit to adding long, thin routes.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 15):
IAD-MAN using a 767 to replace the BMI shambles

Not likely. LHR is where the money is and they want to squat on as much space as the can there if open skies arrives.

Quoting United787 (Reply 19):
Quoting PSA727 (Reply 9):
Maybe they'll go back to Santiago, Chile or start Lima, Peru.

I would love to see UA fly these routes direct from ORD!

UA seems committed to serving South America from IAD.

I would agree with the thread starter that UA would look to restore flights to business destinations that had been dropped. MXP is more likely than than DEL since India is overserved in the short run.


User currently offlineMalpensaSFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3008 times:

Quoting AADC10 (Reply 23):
There is also the problem that only p.s. 757s are 3-class and I believe that only the 2-class Hawaii planes are ETOPS.

It amazes me that P.S. has not been expanded to the following routes:

LHR-JFK, BOS, IAD
BOS-SFO
IAD-SFO

Quoting AADC10 (Reply 23):
LHR is where the money is and they want to squat on as much space as the can there if open skies arrives

The sale of 2 or 3 slots could give UA a nice chunk of change. The only slots in turn they could hold on to would be:

SFO-LHR : (UA, needs 2x SFO for both Premium/Connecting Traffic)
LAX-LHR : (UA, needs 1x LAX for Premium feed)
IAD-LHR : (UA, needs 2x IAD for both Premium/Connecting Traffic)
JFK-LHR : (UA, needs 1 x JFK for both Premium/Corporate Traffic)
ORD-LHR : (UA, needs 2x ORD for both Premium/Connecting Traffic)


25 BigGSFO : I seriously doubt we will see UA in either of these markets. UA does not have the right US gateways to sustain more destinations into South America b
26 Lindy : ORD has already non-stop service to WAW. It would be very nice if UA started at least thrice-weekly IAD-WAW using 767-300. There is enough market sha
27 B752OS : Is there really enough premium demand on the BOS-SFO route to have UA do one, maybe two P.S. service flights? Also, UA stopped flying BOS-LHR a few y
28 LOT767SP-LPA : LOTs schedule to US summer 2006: WAW - JFK 16:20 1.34567 WAW - EWR 16:50 .2..... WAW - ORD 15:10 .234567 WAW - ORD 19:35 1.345.7 WAW - YYZ 15:55 1.34.
29 Post contains images UnitedTristar : I could definetly see UA start some NRT to India service. The Asia India service they ran prevously was popular with west coast premium travelers. I t
30 Flightopsguy : Look for a CAN Star Alliance "hub" with new membership in Star of at least 2 Chinese airlines. (reported elsewhere)
31 Simpilicity : maybe UA should look at HNL/BNE & HNL/MEL. They could do these using a 763ER & it would improve the options in flying to OZ. Australians who don't liv
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