Phuebner From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 244 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 7009 times:
Interesting pictures. I was reading one of my textbooks and it said "It has been more than 30 years since the end of the scheduled helicopter transport era." Gesell & Dempsey -Air Transportation Foundations for the 21st Century -
This statement caused me to think about it and I was wondering why now, no "legacy" airlines have helicopter service and why there hasn't really been a major "helicopter" airline.
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LeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 7002 times:
I would assume cost would be a considerable factor. Not sure of the amounts of cash involved, but you can obviously only transport relatively small numbers of people at a team (even in a large helicopter like a Sikorsky 61 or 92).
Btriple7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1160 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6990 times:
I think the main reason helicopters are not used as major parts of airline fleets is because they are not are practical. They're slow and don't have a large passenger capacity. A regional jet or even a small prop is much more economical than a helicopter.
Lando From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6753 times:
Well if you had the Boeing 234LR, the capacity shouldnt be a huge problem. It could carry a good load, I would think. Also, helicopters are more versatile in where they can land. So, scheduled flights could get you where you need to go faster, and bring you closer to your actual destination. For instance, the helicopter service that is starting in New York, that takes you from downtown to the airport. If you need to go downtown a helicopter can get you there while a plane can only take you to the airport, in which you would have to spend time commuting in a car. So, I think that if a helicopter could be made to carry more passengers and in turn keep ticket prices low, if you had the right destinations it could be a success.
Fanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1964 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6690 times:
Ah, back in the 1960s and 1970s, helocopters actually landed on the roof of the Pan Am building in Manhattan. After a crash in the late 1970s, this practice was abandoned. New York Airways also flew among the three New York City area airports, first using S-55s and Boeing Vertols, later Sikorsky S-61Ls.
TomTurner From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 247 posts, RR: 18
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6639 times:
Quoting Fanofjets (Reply 14): There was another airline, Island Helicopters, that flew local tours. I believe they are now Liberty Tours.
Island Helicopters actually flew S-62s(!) between East River Heliports (Downtown and Midtown) to Garden City Long Island. Sadly no images on A.net. I am hoping some show up eventually.
They flew Bell Long Rangers as well I believe. It would be a surprise to me to learn they morphed into Liberty, but I don't know either way.
Long after I saw the last of Island Helicopters, a couple of different companies flew, implausibly enough, S-58s around Manhattan and briefly to New York area airports.
One of the last of those (S-58s) had its swan song as an NYPD imposter in the George Clooney move "PeaceKeeper" (I think that was the name of the movie). Not sure if they applied police decals or it was done cgi.
Yes, I was about to mention that, when I got down to your post. I think it was called SFO Helicopters. When I started working with TWA in rampservice back in '68, I remember driving at the terminal, at night, and this helicopter coming out of nowhere, above me, trying to land. I couldn't see him, and he probably didn't see me. They landed right near the gates, in those days.
HAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2558 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6508 times:
I believe it was a combination of cost, and the unfortunate accident rate from the startup helicopter companies in the 1960's that ended large scale attempts at helicopter airlines.
I lived in Newport Beach CA until I was 11 years old, and I remember my parents taking my sister and me on LA Airways helicopters from the Newporter Hotel to LAX to catch our flights out from there. It was great fun, and always scarily impressive to walk up to that helicopter, its engines screaming, with the blades whirling by overhead as we boarded. I know one of the LA Airways Sikorsky's crashed sometime in the late 60's, which ended their operation.