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What Does KLM Stand For?  
User currently offlineYZFOO7F From Canada, joined May 2005, 158 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3939 times:

What does KLM stand for?


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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3932 times:

I have no idea- heard it once before and can't remember. I remember a thread like this about 2 years ago when I was reading these forums but not yet a membet (joined last month!!) and subsequently was suprised not to see this question pop up more frequently! Good question- I'm eager to find out (and remember it once and for all!)

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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5427 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3932 times:

Please Google "KLM stand for"


Jimbo



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User currently offlineFanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1991 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3932 times:

KLM stands for Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij, which translates literally as "Royal Aviation Company." The airline was founded in 1919, making it one of the oldest in the world.


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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20728 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3919 times:

"Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij voor Nederland an Kolonien" or "Royal Dutch Airlines"


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User currently offlineYZFOO7F From Canada, joined May 2005, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3919 times:

Thank you friends, you have been most helpful.


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User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5519 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3820 times:

Now, how does one go about pronouncing that?  Wink

User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20728 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3814 times:

Quoting Continental (Reply 6):
Now, how does one go about pronouncing that?

Kay-El-Em  Wink



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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3814 times:

Quoting Continental (Reply 6):
Now, how does one go about pronouncing that?



Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):

Kay-El-Em

 rotfl 


User currently offlineTinPusher007 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3778 times:

I always though they just took the letters out of the alphabet, but could never figure out why...lol


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User currently offlineJbmitt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 547 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3756 times:

It would be pronounced similar to this:

cone-ing-in-a-like luck-vart mott-ski(d)-pie

My dutch is ok, not great, its been a few years since I called Leeuwarden home.


User currently offlineSimong From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3681 times:

K = cone ing like L = lookt vart M = mat scap eye


From a Canadian who lived in A'dam ..... loved it and who's Dutch needs a lot of work !
The Dutch are the best ..... I mean the Best at learning other languages. So many Nederlanders I met spoke 4-5 or 6 languages ..... you guys rock and are the nicest, friendliest most down to earth people on the planet ..... don't change ..... the rest of the world needs to learn from you !



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User currently offlineGlareskin From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 1307 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3644 times:

Quoting Simong (Reply 11):
the rest of the world needs to learn from you

Thank you. So from now on, fellow a-netters, you better believe me: I'm Dutch!  Wink

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
Kay-El-Em

Wrong!! Actually it's Kah-El-Em.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20728 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3644 times:

Quoting Glareskin (Reply 12):
Actually it's Kah-El-Em.

My bad. I was typing with an American accent.  silly 



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User currently offlineMika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2881 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3534 times:

Quoting Jbmitt (Reply 10):
luck-vart

I always thought the ch in Luchtvaart was pronounced just like that; ch.

Have i been under the wrong impression all this time?  Smile


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3522 times:

Quoting Simong (Reply 11):
you guys rock and are the nicest, friendliest most down to earth people on the planet .

Guess you haven't been here the last couple of years huh?

Quoting Mika (Reply 14):
I always thought the ch in Luchtvaart was pronounced just like that; ch.

Yeah, it's not pronounced ck, it's the g sound that's sounds like you're hocking a loogie. Non-dutch speakers have the hardest time learning that one (that and ui, probably unique to dutch)



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User currently offlineMika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2881 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3502 times:

Quoting Kappel (Reply 15):
Yeah, it's not pronounced ck, it's the g sound that's sounds like you're hocking a loogie. Non-dutch speakers have the hardest time learning that one (that and ui, probably unique to dutch)

So is it ch or g that is pronounced like ch? Or both? I´m confused  boggled 


User currently offlineSabena340 From Belgium, joined Jan 2000, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3499 times:

Quoting Mika (Reply 14):
I always thought the ch in Luchtvaart was pronounced just like that; ch.

Have i been under the wrong impression all this time?

Nope, you were under the right impression, the ch in Dutch is pronounced similarly to the ch in German (or maybe Swedish as well, i'll be able to tell you soon cuzz i plan to puck up Swedish.


User currently offlineMika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2881 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3480 times:

Great Sabena, Tack så mycket! (Thank you in Swedish)


The ch sound is similar in Swedish too, words like champagne and chaufför (chauffeur) are pronounced with that same Luchtvaart ch sound.


Good luck with your Swedish studies!


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4337 posts, RR: 35
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3414 times:

Quoting Mika (Reply 18):
The ch sound is similar in Swedish too, words like champagne and chaufför (chauffeur) are pronounced with that same Luchtvaart ch sound.

In Dutch the CH in Luchtvaart is a harder sound (not like the "SJ"sound in chauffeur or champage) , more like clearing your throat or the CH and G in German "Acht und achtzig"
I am sure JB Mitt who suggested "Luck vart" already adapted to the fact this hard CH/G sound is beyond the reach of most non dutch speakers and then "luck vart" is the closest they can get.



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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3338 times:

Quoting Mika (Reply 16):
So is it ch or g that is pronounced like ch? Or both? I�m confused

It's the same sound, only written differently. Weird huh?

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 19):
I am sure JB Mitt who suggested "Luck vart" already adapted to the fact this hard CH/G sound is beyond the reach of most non dutch speakers and then "luck vart" is the closest they can get.

Indeed, perhaps arabic speakers can also pronounce it, IIRC arabic has a similar sound, although don't ask me if it's also the g (or ch), I don't speak or write arabic.



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User currently offlineAviopic From Netherlands, joined Mar 2004, 2681 posts, RR: 42
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3292 times:

To add a little more to the confusion, it also depends were you live.
In the southern provinces it's not a hard G or CH but a more soft tone like "jeeh". Big grin

Willem



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