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Will Any East Coast U.S. Cities Ever See The A380  
User currently offlineAviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 604 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5199 times:
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Does anyone know if any cities on the east coast will ever see any regular A380 service?

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User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3380 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5195 times:

JFK probably has the best chance. Maybe VS to MCO. PHL may see UPS A380F's but that's probably 10 yrs away if at all.

User currently offlineTinPusher007 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 970 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5195 times:

I would say JFK probably stands the best chance. One might be able to speculate about VS putting it on the LGW-MCO route as it flies that 2X daily w/ 744.


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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11409 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5187 times:

I would say that JFK and MIA have a 100% chance of seeing the A380 -- there is no way that behemoth won't be landing at those two airports soon after it hits the skies. AF and LH have already said that JFK will definitely see the plane, and several other future A380 operators have said MIA will also see the plane. Other than those two, which I regard as definites, I would say IAD -- eventually -- has about a 60% chance, but I say eventually because it may take time for IAD to mature enough as a market to be able to sustain such a huge plane on a regular basis, presumably to a European hub with a European airline doing the A380 flying there. BOS has a smaller chance, perhaps 25%, of seeing the plane, and I say this because that is already a highly matured transatlantic market that, unlike IAD, has less of a chance of future demand growth to Europe beyond more specialized flying to smaller markets (i.e., AA 757s to GLA, EDI, DUB, etc.).

User currently offlineAviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 604 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5187 times:
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Anything to IAD?? And is BOS not capable of handling the type (not that anyone would fly it there anyways)?

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5167 times:

JFK for the passenger version and EWR for the Cargo version, EWR is a large FedEx hub.


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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5152 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 5):
FK for the passenger version and EWR for the Cargo version, EWR is a large FedEx hub.

I believe JFK and MIA are among the 5 airports in the US that are whalejet-ready.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32599 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5115 times:

Lufthansa, Air France, and Virgin Atlantic have all stated that MIA is in their A380s plans, with Air France going to farthest to all but confirm it.

MCO won't see the A380, because VS' will be basing them all at LHR.



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User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7108 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5106 times:

Does MEM and SDF count as East Coast too?
In the whole US for now I only see within a year of A380 service starting.
JFK,LAX,SFO,MIA,MEM,SDF.



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User currently offlineYhz78 From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5023 times:

AF will be doing CDG to YUL as they now run at least 2 744's a day in the summer at least
My apoligies, i just realized the thread was for U.S. cities only

[Edited 2006-03-09 06:42:44]


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User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5475 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4994 times:

Concourse J at MIA is being built specifically for the Star Alliance carriers. Who are big Airbus customers. So, as one can count on plenty of hot young women with tight athletic bodys wearing less and less, the uber jumbo 380 will be pulling up to a Jetway at MIA's concourse J!






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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4968 times:

Fewer and fewer JumboJets are operating transAtlantic routes -- especially to the east coast. JFK might see a few WhaleJets, but the trend is clearly in the other direction.

User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4028 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4944 times:

NYC-JFK & EWR will see some, but the west coast airports of LAX and SFO will likely see the most traffic of A380's, since trans-Pacific routes will likely more utilize this airframe. DEN is equipped for it with a 16,000' runway for max payload departures, but it may not see many.


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4792 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 6):
I believe JFK and MIA are among the 5 airports in the US that are whalejet-ready.

For the passenger version, EWR is able to handle the cargo version.



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6752 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4770 times:

Here's what I thought:

JFK-definitely (int. carriers)
MEM-definitely (FEDEx)
MIA-probably (eventually)
SMF-probably (UPS)
EWR-slight chance (much later)
GSO/IND-chance (later FedEx)
PHL- chance (later UPS)

all others: very doubtful

Just my thought.. I could be wrong...



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User currently offlineUA933 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4708 times:

IAD has a good chance because UA operates 3 daily flights (744,772,763) and LH operates 2 daily flights (744,333 or 343) to FRA so the capacity exists. The interesting question however is what UAs reaction is going to be like.


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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4626 times:

I think LH will not want to consolidate their two current FRA-IAD flights onto a WhaleJet because they need to accommodate passengers with different connecting schedules.

User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4612 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 12):
DEN is equipped for it with a 16,000' runway for max payload departures, but it may not see many.

The issue is not with the runway length but gates and taxiway width. The whalejet doesn't need anywhere close to 16000' runway length.


User currently offlineUA933 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4612 times:

Well but these additional frequencies are provided by the 3 daily UA flights on which LH code shares


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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4601 times:

Air France, Lufthansa, and Virgin Atlantic have all already stated that they will use the A380 on routes to JFK. The first destination for the Air France A380 will be JFK.

Other airlines such as Singapore and Emirates are also airlines that might fly the A380 into JFK.



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User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2147 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4592 times:

MIA is ideal for the A380

User currently offlineGSOShutout55 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4501 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 17):

at DEN it will. The density alt there in summer is crap, that's why the huge 16k runway was needed. It doesn't matter if the A380 doesn't need 16k other places, it'll need a lot of runway at DEN.



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4485 times:

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 1):
Maybe VS to MCO.

MCO has it plastered all over their website that they are already "A380 Ready." VS may not have confirmed anything yet but Orlando appears to be lobbying for the whalejet.



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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3766 posts, RR: 19
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4468 times:

I thnk the following airports could possibly receive the A380...

JFK - Emirates, Lufthansa, Air France, Virgin Atlantic, Singapore Airlines, Qantas
EWR - Virgin Atlantic, Air France, Lufthansa
MCO - Virgin Atlantic
MIA - Air France, Virgin Atlantic
IAD - Perhaps Lufthansa

JFK will almost 100% receive the A380  Smile

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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32599 posts, RR: 72
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4468 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 22):
MCO has it plastered all over their website that they are already "A380 Ready." VS may not have confirmed anything yet but Orlando appears to be lobbying for the whalejet.

Yes, but the fact remains that Virgin will be basing their A380s in Heathrow in a premium configuration, not a high-density configuration from Gatwick. They won't be flying them to MCO unless they change those plans.



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25 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : In high altitude airports like DEN & SLC runway length can be a BIG issue during the summer months. But gates and taxiways are the big reason ATL won
26 Burnsie28 : Denver now has a 16,000 x 200 foot runway, i dont think that is an issue.
27 SLCUT2777 : High altitude airports need a long runway for a fully laiden wide-body or jumbo to effectively take-off without weight restrictions. Denver's 16k' x
28 DeltaGator : I'm just saying that MCO is lobbying for the whalejet and they say they are ready for it. VS would make more money with an LHR based premium bird ver
29 Cloud4000 : The only carriers I can see flying into BOS with 380 are AF and LH, who, in the summer, can replace their 2x daily flights, to CDG and FRA respective
30 Airbazar : You won't see a passenger A380 flying regularly into BOS any time soon however I wouldn't rule out a substitute every once in a while. Even though the
31 Chase : I heard at one point that in addition to the FedEx possibilities (which the alway-accurate Star overstated), IND is the official A380 diversion airpor
32 AADC10 : This has been discussed before but DEN could easily modify a gate to accomodate an A380. They are not in any hurry to do so because they have been ha
33 CXA330300 : I'd add Korean Air...........they run two relatively profitable 744s to ICN each day.
34 Ups757 : The runways at SMF are only 8600'. The runways at MHR are cloes to 12000'. I do not think SMF will see an A380 from UPS, maybe at MHR.
35 Gigneil : I think the poster meant to say SDF for UPS. N
36 N1120A : The 16,000 foot runway at DEN was not built for the A380. It was built to allow a 648,000 pound 772ER fly non-stop, unrestricted, year-round to NRT.
37 ChrisNH : Where's all this BOS enthusiasm coming from? I can't see how or why either FedEx or UPS would fly the A380 into Logan. There's not THAT much freight g
38 Zeke : Should still be able to takeoff with 560t off that runway, 530t off the 12000ft runways assuming ISA+15.
39 DLKAPA : DEN also has wide enough taxiways. I thought the gate LH uses on the A concourse is A380 ready? Not that we'll see much pax A380 for awhile, but the
40 RJ111 : It's worth remembering that there's quite a narrow opportunity to fly US east coast to Western Europe due to the time zones, thus increasing frequency
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