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New Routes To, From And In Germany  
User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4161 posts, RR: 36
Posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7064 times:

Air Berlin
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DUS-GWT 3/7 with A320
TXL-GWT 2/7 with A320

Jet2
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LBA-DUS 7/7 with B733


Will be interesting to see how many new routes will be announced in the coming weeks just in time for the soccer world cup.


Flown: A319/320/321,A332/3,A380,AT4,AT7,B732/3/4/5/7/8,B742/4,B762/763,B772,CR2,CR7,ER4,E70,E75,F50/70,M11,L15,S20
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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7056 times:

The Sunday service DUS-GWT-DUS is operated with an F-100.


Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24936 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7043 times:

I thought the Jet2 flights would be 6 weekly, with no saturday service?


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineEDDM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6924 times:

Now what about MUC-BDA?

User currently offlineA300605R From Germany, joined Nov 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6865 times:

I don't know if this news is as new...

According to Flug Revue 03/06, DE will start service HAJ-YHZ-YVR with B753 once a week.



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User currently offlineLazyshaun From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6837 times:

Where will the main stadiums be that will host the World Cup?


I came. I saw. I conquered
User currently offlineA300605R From Germany, joined Nov 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6806 times:

Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 5):
Where will the main stadiums be that will host the World Cup?

Try this:
http://www.jugendherberge.de/images/aktuelles/wm-stadien-klein.jpg

Opening in Munich, Cup final in Berlin...

Hope this is what you are looking for.



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6776 times:

Why the sudden increase in services to Westerland/Sylt. Lufthansa are also starting a large number of flights there this summer


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User currently offlineA300605R From Germany, joined Nov 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6734 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 7):
Why the sudden increase in services to Westerland/Sylt. Lufthansa are also starting a large number of flights there this summer

According to the ZDF (German TV) the majority of the Germans will stay in Germany this year for holidays, people would stay 3-5 days (mean). Maybe airlines expect a run to our beaches...
"Why not going to GWT instead of using AB for a short-term-trip to PMI?"
I think this a possible reason.

 confused 



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User currently offlineEDDM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 6614 times:

Last summer, LH also had flights to HDF on Usedom (an island in the Baltic, near the Polish border).

User currently offlineA300605R From Germany, joined Nov 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6579 times:

Quoting EDDM (Reply 9):
Last summer, LH also had flights to HDF on Usedom

I can't remember the year (10 years ago or something), but ST had flights with B733 from Berlin (was THF I guess) to HDF.

AB, X3 (not Baikal but Hapag-Lloyd Express...), LGW (Luftfahrgesellschaft Walter) and LH make GWT an interesting place...  Wink



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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6492 times:

Expect a trip report about DUS-GWT-DUS with an in-depth look at an airport from a different era of aviation (GWT) at the beginning of May. Big grin


Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineEDDM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6470 times:

Quoting A300605R (Reply 10):
I can't remember the year (10 years ago or something), but ST had flights with B733 from Berlin (was THF I guess) to HDF.

Yes, that's the route I meant. Sorry for not making myself any clearer.

It's in the LH Europe timetable from June 1 2005, THF-HDF operated by C9. The equipment's not listed, but I think C9 only uses Dashes and Do 328 props out of THF.


User currently offlineJog From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 273 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6448 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 7):
Why the sudden increase in services to Westerland/Sylt. Lufthansa are also starting a large number of flights there this summer

On the one hand HLX was very successful with flights to GWT last year, so that's the reason for their increase in flights. I think others have seen that and therefore jump on. Sylt is a very popular holiday destination with nice beaches, however it is the northest place in Germany that you can find and you have to use either the train or a ferry to get their (you can take your car onto the train/ferry). You need about 6 hours by car + 30 minutes train ride or nine hours for the complete train ride from DUS/CGN. So it is no surprise that a 1 hour flight is convenient. Also from HAJ it is still almost 4 hours +30 minutes. If I remember correct GWT is repairing their runway and will buy an external power supply for aircrafts (don't know the correct name) for this season (requested by HLX).

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 11):
Expect a trip report about DUS-GWT-DUS with an in-depth look at an airport from a different era of aviation (GWT)

Well, the terminal is looking nice and is quite new - however it is probably smaller than the A320  Wink I travelled there with HLX last year. Both waiting areas were overcrowded with the 100 passengers. Also they open the waiting areas only after the plane has landed and most people were waiting outside the terminal. Bagagge is delivered directly on the trailer, All check-in is done without computers and you have boarding cards with hand-written priority numbers... So the airport is not really from a different era, but flying there is definetly something different.


User currently offlineVadheim From Norway, joined Jul 2000, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6327 times:

Norwegian (DY) launch flights to:

Oslo to Dusseldorf, Hamburg and Munich:
OSL-DUS-OSL B733
OSL-HAM-OSL B733
OSL-MUC-OSL B733

Bergen to Hamburg and Berlin:
BGO-HAM-BGO B733
BGO-SXF-BGO B733

I also think Lufthansa starts a summer service between Bergen and Hamburg using CRJ aircraft. Bergen is the second largest city in Norway located on the west coast (known as "gateway to the fjords") with approx. 250.000 inhabitants.


User currently offlineA300605R From Germany, joined Nov 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6297 times:

Quoting EDDM (Reply 12):
Sorry for not making myself any clearer.

No problem!

Quoting EDDM (Reply 12):
The equipment's not listed, but I think C9 only uses Dashes and Do 328 props out of THF.

According to the cirrus timetable (http://www.cirrus-world.de), C9 will use for GWT flights their DO328. There is a connecting flight to/from THF to MHG and SCN (DO328). I think they will fly SCN-MHG-THF-GWT so passengers will not have to change the aircraft.



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User currently offlineGearup380 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 85 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6263 times:

Quoting EDDM (Reply 3):
Now what about MUC-BDA?

That is indeed the big question...



Excess baggage? Oh come on...
User currently offlineEDDM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6215 times:

Quoting Gearup380 (Reply 16):
Quoting EDDM (Reply 3):
Now what about MUC-BDA?

That is indeed the big question...

On their website, Munich Airlines claim to be present at the ITB. Is anybody going there who might want to check on them?


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6084 times:

Quoting A300605R (Reply 10):
I can't remember the year (10 years ago or something), but ST had flights with B733 from Berlin (was THF I guess) to HDF.

Does anyone know when these flights stopped?

Quoting A300605R (Reply 10):
AB, X3 (not Baikal but Hapag-Lloyd Express...), LGW (Luftfahrgesellschaft Walter) and LH make GWT an interesting place...

What are LGW's present GWT routes? Will the new flights have any effect on LGW's operations at GWT?

Also, could HDF experience a similar boom is services to the one GWT is experiencing?



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User currently offlineA300605R From Germany, joined Nov 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6060 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 18):
What are LGW's present GWT routes?

at present:
LGW-FLUGPLANDATEN-WINTER.pdf" target=_blank>www.lgw.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Dow...loads/LGW-FLUGPLANDATEN-WINTER.pdf

summer:
LGW-FLUGPLANDATEN-SOMMER-2006_neu.pdf" target=_blank>www.lgw.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Dow...-FLUGPLANDATEN-SOMMER-2006_neu.pdf

Quoting Humberside (Reply 18):
Will the new flights have any effect on LGW's operations at GWT?

I can't answer that, but I fear. A flight DUS-GWT is at the moment 180� (normal, 150� cheap). I'm sure that Hapag or AB will be much cheaper, despite their big Boeings to operate. On the other hand, maybe rich people will book the "exclusive" 19-seat-DO228-flights. I really don't know. If LGW has to reduce fares very much to get passengers, they will drop GWT, I'm sure. Sad

Quoting Humberside (Reply 18):
Also, could HDF experience a similar boom is services to the one GWT is experiencing?

I don't think so, as Usedom offers 57.500 beds ( http://www.usedom.de ), while Sylt offered 176.028 in 2001 ( http://www.statistik-sh.de ). The market to HDF is not big enough.



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User currently offlineA300605R From Germany, joined Nov 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6053 times:

Sorry about the bad URLs to the site of LGW! Obviously, I've made a mistake...
You better copy-paste the URL to your browser...



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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5980 times:

LGW is coming under a lot of pressure nowadays with competition in two of their bread-and-butter markets: D5 on DTM-THF and X3/AB/LH on the GWT runs.


Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3104 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5980 times:

Don't forget that DL is adding ATL-DUS this summer.

User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5962 times:

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 22):
Don't forget that DL is adding ATL-DUS this summer.

Plus CO: EWR-CGN-EWR with B75W



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineTS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3481 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5913 times:

Nouvelair announced daily Tunisia-Germany flights during the World Cup !!! I don't know if it's worth doing  Wink

25 Post contains images A300605R : What about the new Hongkong-LCC coming with B744 to CGN next year (presented by Michael Garvens)? Does anyone know when and the name of this newcomer?
26 Johnnybgoode : A300605R, the name of that company is something like Hong Kong Oasis Airlines. they are also looking at MXP, LGW and SXF! however, i believe it when I
27 Post contains images A300605R : Know what you mean. I can't imagine how they will be able to fill a B744, to fly cheap and to earn money on such a long leg. Thanks for the news! Chr
28 EDDM : To cut CASM, they could use that 747SR-100 currently available from ANA.
29 HT : What´s the range of that B747SR-100 ? (Info not available on A.net a/c-database). HKG-GCN is 4978nm / 5728mi. -HT
30 Post contains images EDDM : Well.. given that SR stands for "short range", I wouldn't hold my breath.
31 Post contains links EDDM : JAL says 3,700km.
32 Oneworld1 : Are Jet2 not also starting a LBA/MAN-DUS in the summer?
33 Humberside : They announced LBA-DUS this week, as posted at the start of the thread. Nothing said about MAN-DUS. There is probably more chance of another German c
34 JRadier : GPU, Ground Power Unit
35 Post contains images Oneworld1 :
36 Post contains links A342 : Fliegerrevue also reports there will be a flight by Munich Airlines, but they also seem to be surprised by the fact that a Tristar will be used. www.
37 Patroni : In the early 1990s ST flew 2 or 3 times a week TXL (not THF) -HDF with the 737-300. I think it stopped in 1993.
38 TriStar500 : Financial Kamikaze is not really sensible. The initial acquisition costs would be low, but the airline would have to cope with high maintenance, fuel
39 HT : & & With a 3700km range of the B747SR-100, add minimium two (!) tech-stops enroute HKG-CGN-HKG in each direction ! Even a popular routing as HKG-BKK-
40 EDDM : What a pity. Another one for the Axe, then.
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