Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
What Does Non Rev Mean?  
User currently offlineRaffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 9626 times:

Hi,

I have only recently joined a.net but have always been an avid reader!
One term that is used here- particularly by Americans, is "Non Rev". I haven't got a clue what it means and I don't half feel stupid having to ask, but if anyone could shed some light on the phrase, I'd appreciate it.

There's even a user called Non Rev King! My mind has been in overdrive and my latest theory is that it's when a plane takes off with less than full throttle (Non Rev- as in "revving" up an engine?". Someone, put me out of my misery!

Cheers


Happy -go- lucky kinda guy!
22 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 9617 times:

Non-Rev means Non-Revenue Passenger. This is someone who is not paying for their seat.

Most likely this person works for the airline, or is related to someone who does in some way.

I am a flight attendant for an airline, and my travel benefits allow me to fly for free (so, I'm a non-revenue passenger) as long as their is a seat available.

-Tony



Prepare doors for departure and cross-check.
User currently offlineRaffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 9565 times:

I see! I was completely out then! I guess alot of people don't pay for their tickets, then, because I've heard alot of talking about travelling "Non Rev". Lucky! Thanks


Happy -go- lucky kinda guy!
User currently offlineLUVRSW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 498 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9547 times:

Quoting Raffik (Thread starter):
my latest theory is that it's when a plane takes off with less than full throttle (Non Rev- as in "revving" up an engine?".

lol


User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5633 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9533 times:

Quoting Raffik (Thread starter):
I haven't got a clue what it means and I don't half feel stupid having to ask,

That's what this forum is for, and there's no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid answers!


User currently offlineRaffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9487 times:

Thanks for your replies- I feel embarrased, but I have been educated and can actually grasp the whole concept- possibly like standy but for crew using their concessions?
My Mum used to work as a FA for a small airline noone has heard of called BAF- Flying out of Southend around Europe and we used to get free flights, but she never called it "Non Rev"- possibly more of an American term than British?



Happy -go- lucky kinda guy!
User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6449 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9478 times:

Quoting Raffik (Reply 5):
but she never called it "Non Rev"- possibly more of an American term than British?

I think the British refer to it as staff travel.


User currently offlineVSFLYER747400 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9440 times:

Quoting Raffik (Reply 5):
My Mum used to work as a FA for a small airline noone has heard of called BAF

You mean British Air Ferries? Did you get to do all your flights on the lovely Viscount? If so - you lucky so and so  Big grin


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Eduard Marmet




Being on: (in no order) VS BA AA EK CX MH DL EI BD KL HV NW RC LH AF DA TG QF US FR LX AC SK AZ PG SQ UA PA
User currently offlineRaffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9425 times:

These too!

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Marco Ceschi - Spot It



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Wingnut



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Keith Blincow




Happy -go- lucky kinda guy!
User currently offlineJFKTOWERFAN From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1100 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9399 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
DATABASE EDITOR

Quoting Raffik (Thread starter):
There's even a user called Non Rev King!

There WAS a user called nonrevking  wink 

Corey



C'mon Man
User currently offlineRaffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9371 times:

What happened to him? I am intrigued!


Happy -go- lucky kinda guy!
User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12217 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9364 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
FORUM MODERATOR

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 4):
That's what this forum is for, and there's no such thing as a stupid question

...only stupid people Big grin (Mr. Garrison in South Park)



911, where is your emergency?
User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9350 times:

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 6):
but she never called it "Non Rev"- possibly more of an American term than British?

well when i talk about it i use the therm FREE ONE TICKET
Regards
Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1555 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9346 times:

Quoting Raffik (Reply 2):
I see! I was completely out then! I guess alot of people don't pay for their tickets, then, because I've heard alot of talking about travelling "Non Rev". Lucky! Thanks

I read a statistic (yeah, yeah, I know) that 1 in 12 jobs in the US is related to transportation. Obviously that's not all aviation, but the "Big 6" US Legacy carriers all have 30-50 thousand plus employees... so, yeah, probably millions of people worldwide have some form of flight benefits.

I used to, then I turned 21...



Make something Idiot-proof, and the Universe will make a more inept idiot.
User currently offlineRaffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9314 times:

Quoting Antoniemey (Reply 13):
I used to, then I turned 21...

LOL.



Happy -go- lucky kinda guy!
User currently offlineDartland From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 643 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9264 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Correct me if I'm wrong (like I even need to say it on A.net), but non-rev can also apply to people traveling on FF points, coupons, etc. ANYONE who didn't pay cash for their ticket. Not sure if this is true for all airlines, but I know it is for some.

Also -- non-rev seats are not always stand-by. As with the examples above, and also employees for business-travel (or exec level), can RESERVE a non-rev seat (usually it depends on availability in a certain class, but nonetheless, it's a garanteed seat, not stand-by)


User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6449 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9229 times:

Quoting Dartland (Reply 15):
As with the examples above, and also employees for business-travel (or exec level), can RESERVE a non-rev seat (usually it depends on availability in a certain class, but nonetheless, it's a garanteed seat, not stand-by)

Airline employees traveling on company business do travel confirmed. However its is generally called "positive space" not "non-rev". The term non-rev is used to denote personal travel. That is not anything that is writen anywhere, but that is how it is used.


User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1555 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9212 times:

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 16):
Airline employees traveling on company business do travel confirmed. However its is generally called "positive space" not "non-rev". The term non-rev is used to denote personal travel. That is not anything that is writen anywhere, but that is how it is used.

There's also the "Must Ride" classification for mechanics going to service planes, flight crews that have to get somewhere to fly a flight, etc.



Make something Idiot-proof, and the Universe will make a more inept idiot.
User currently offlineNwab787techops From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9174 times:

Quoting Raffik (Reply 2):
I see! I was completely out then! I guess alot of people don't pay for their tickets, then, because I've heard alot of talking about travelling "Non Rev". Lucky! Thanks

Oh no!!! We pay.....

Working in a bussiness where 40 to 50% pay cuts are a everday thing. Not that I'm unhappy with what I do for work or with who I work for. Also, some airline make there employees pay a service fee and tax. And its a standby ticket, and no they don't pay for your room when you miss the flight.


User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2167 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9158 times:

NonRev=Non Revenue The widely accepted term for employee/dependent travel on air carriers although some now deceased carriers in recent history with waaay below cost fares could have been considered nonrevenue also...grin.

FF miles and such are not considered under the nonrev category.

FYI NonRev does not mean free...many carriers assess a charge of some type on their employee/dependent travel sometimes depending on class of service for instance.


User currently offlineSimpilicity From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9031 times:

R AD75 tickets considered NONREV ?

R UA Buddy passes considered NONREV?


User currently offlineJumpseat70 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8951 times:

Yes...these are considered NON REV. Any ticket which is on a standby basis and connected to an employee by means of consideration is catagorized as Non Revenue producing, which will not be counted in the CASM and RASM.

User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6449 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8951 times:

Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 20):
R AD75 tickets considered NONREV ?

Airline employees receive ID75 tickets and travel agency employees recieve AD75 tickets. AD75 tickets are not standbye.


Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
What Does Non-schengen Mean? (EBBR) posted Tue Nov 30 2004 21:44:53 by Dragon-wings
What Is Non-Rev? posted Tue Mar 21 2006 03:56:16 by Slovacek747
787 Factsheet - What Does This One Mean? posted Mon Mar 20 2006 13:57:07 by EI321
What Does "V" Mean In A Check-in Systems Seating? posted Sun Mar 5 2006 09:41:57 by UN_B732
What Does Delta's Bankruptcy Mean For Song? posted Thu Sep 15 2005 03:10:19 by TacSupport1
What Does This Arch Mean? posted Sat Aug 13 2005 01:59:51 by Capt.Fantastic
What Does This Sign Mean In This KLM Cabin? posted Tue Jan 4 2005 01:07:43 by JetMarc
What Does Cathay Pacific Mean? posted Fri May 9 2003 17:23:52 by DIA
What Does 1st Rights Mean? posted Tue May 7 2002 01:08:56 by Alexinwa
What Does Short Final Mean? posted Mon Oct 1 2001 11:12:21 by Cdfmxtech