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Chances Of E170's For Comair/ASA  
User currently offlineTinPusher007 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 968 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3777 times:

I was just curious what poeple think about the likelyhood of Comair and/or ASA flying the E170 for DL. It is no secret that this aircraft is far superior to the CRJ and Comair made no bones about their desire to fly it. I know it would take Comair and DL coming out of BK for this to materialise, but I pose the question since these two are DL's primary connection carriers. All thougts on the subject are welcome.


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User currently offlineBucky707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1028 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3702 times:

now that Delta has CHQ flying the E-170 for them, I think the chance of seeing that aircraft at ASA or CMR is about zero.

User currently offline767-332ER From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3678 times:

With ASA's current expansion strategies following the leadership of a very well organized (and managed) SkyWest, you'll see more and more CR7's coming to the fleet. That isn't to say that later on you could see some other fleet types coming in to the fleet, but for the near future, only CR7's.

Regards



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User currently offlineAvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3656 times:

Fred Buttrell (OH - president) arrived in January '05. In his first meeting eith the employees, he mentioned he wanted an additional 70 seater platform. As he met with employee groups through out the company, he said he wanted to look at the EMB-170 which Embraer brought the EMB-175 demo aircraft to CVG.

Fred dangled a carrot before ALPA and Teamster for paycuts inexchange for 10 CRJ's (former DH) and 25 EMB-170's.

Those 10 CRJ's were returned shortly after bankruptcy and the EMB flying, as mentioned, was RP quick to jump on that flying by purchasing the leases and operating certificate from Mid-Atlantica wholey owned subsidary of US. Some reason S5 keeps popping in my head.

Off topic, look for RP to pick up some of the CO express flying.


User currently offlineFlightShadow From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 947 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3626 times:

Quoting TinPusher007 (Thread starter):
It is no secret that this aircraft is far superior to the CRJ

Don't forget, if they have nice seats (like UA Express(GoJet) does), the CRJ7 is a great airplane to fly for 2-3 hours.

Shuttle America currently operates DL Connection's fleet of E170s on routes like SLC - BNA and SLC - IND and those of similar loads and length. The E170 is an excellent aircraft, but the CRJ7 is also right up there. I don't expect any for Comair or ASA anytime soon, although it certainly would be nice  Smile



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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3617 times:

What exactly is better about the E170 over the crj7s? I've never been on a E170 before, but I truly love those UA crj7s. I never thought I would say this, but I'd rather fly a crj7 than a main line jet. At least if it is configured the way United has theirs. Very comfortable and stable jet.

User currently offlineAvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3608 times:

Quoting FlightShadow (Reply 4):
The E170 is an excellent aircraft, but the CRJ7 is also right up there.

Maybe on economics its comparable, but not for pax comfort unless you're a 5'2" woman. I rode a OO CRJ-70 for 3 hrs two weeks ago. It was miserable!! The plane was hald to 3/4 full. Cramped cabin, overhead bins are too low, narrow aisles.

The return flight was a EMB........WOW, no comparison!!

That's the biggest cabin for a regional which I noticed it's an EMB and not an ERJ. Unlike it's competitor (CRJ) and sister (ERJ), it's a real airplane. Any plane that does not require me to walk across the ramp is a real airplane. I know Europe uses stairs, but still!!


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2171 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3591 times:
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I think an easy way, for SkyWest and ASA, of silencing those who complain about the CRJ is to install the now-available(?) drop-down LCD screens and show air map and movies... then pax will be completely lost in the magic world of television and won't notice the rest of the interior...  Wink

Will be a lot cheaper than buying a whole new aircraft type too  Smile



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User currently offlineORD From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3584 times:

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 5):
I never thought I would say this, but I'd rather fly a crj7 than a main line jet.

While United's CR7s aren't bad, and better than other airlines' CR7s, the overhead space is far smaller than a mainline jet. You can't fit a standard roller bag in a CR7 and must check it. You also don't get Channel 9. I'd still take a mainline jet any day.


User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3572 times:

Quoting ORD (Reply 8):
While United's CR7s aren't bad, and better than other airlines' CR7s, the overhead space is far smaller than a mainline jet. You can't fit a standard roller bag in a CR7 and must check it. You also don't get Channel 9. I'd still take a mainline jet any day

That's true about the overheads and ch. 9, but the seats and leg room are awsome. The CR7 is also about the most quiet jet I've ever been on. It also seems to handle turbulance better than under wing engined jets.

Are the overheads on E170s larger? I thought they were 2x2 seating as well.


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3557 times:

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 5):
What exactly is better about the E170 over the crj7s? I've never been on a E170 before, but I truly love those UA crj7s.

Width and cabin cross section is very noticably larger in the E70. None of that cramped CRJ feeling.

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 9):

Are the overheads on E170s larger? I thought they were 2x2 seating as well.

They're full size like a 737 basically. But, since only 4 people are using the space allotted to each seating row, it's essentially "bigger" than the 737's overhead. You can fit roll-aboard carry-ons into the E70 overheads, no more gate checking required. And yes, they are 2x2.


User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3538 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 10):
They're full size like a 737 basically. But, since only 4 people are using the space allotted to each seating row, it's essentially "bigger" than the 737's overhead. You can fit roll-aboard carry-ons into the E70 overheads, no more gate checking required. And yes, they are 2x2.

That is a plus. I'd like to try one out, unfortunately, they haven't put them on DEN-MCI yet (where I do most of my flying).


User currently offlineORD From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3498 times:

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 9):
That's true about the overheads and ch. 9, but the seats and leg room are awsome.

It sounds like you're comparing Economy Plus on the CR7 to regular Economy on mainline, which is really an unfair comparison. Looking at a United CR7 vs. a United A320, the mainline jet is still roomier across the board:

United CR7 Economy Plus: 34"
United A320 Economy Plus: 36"

United CR7 Economy: 31"
United A320 Economy: 31"

United CR7 seat width: 17"
United A320 seat width: 18"

Like I said, the CR7 is nice for an RJ. But I'd take a mainline jet over it any time.


User currently offline767-332ER From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3480 times:

Quoting AvConsultant (Reply 6):
That's the biggest cabin for a regional which I noticed it's an EMB and not an ERJ. Unlike it's competitor (CRJ) and sister (ERJ), it's a real airplane. Any plane that does not require me to walk across the ramp is a real airplane. I know Europe uses stairs, but still!!

Wow, I don't know what type of aviation consulting you would do or who on God's green earth would hire you, but any guy that says that two aircraft types (ERJ/CRJ) that have made tons of money for a number of regionals, aren't real airplanes, then you clearly should not be doing any consulting for anyone!!! Also if you have a problem on flying onboard a plane that requires you to walk across the ramp (a mere 20 yds at the most), then the laziness of our country has been taken a new level.


BTW-I've never seen an aircraft not boarded using stairs when jetways were not available. So your last statement that "Europe uses stairs.." well, I don't know what heck you were talking about there. Do you have to jump from the apron to the cabin when you enplane or deplane a CRJ/ERJ/DC-9/MD-80?

[Edited 2006-03-10 17:34:54]


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1832 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3405 times:
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Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 7):
I think an easy way, for SkyWest and ASA, of silencing those who complain about the CRJ is to install the now-available(?) drop-down LCD screens and show air map and movies... then pax will be completely lost in the magic world of television and won't notice the rest of the interior...

Will be a lot cheaper than buying a whole new aircraft type too

I feel the same way.



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User currently offlineAvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3382 times:

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 9):
Are the overheads on E170s larger? I thought they were 2x2 seating as well.

Same size as a mainline aircraft

Quoting 767-332ER (Reply 13):
Wow, I don't know what type of aviation consulting you would do or who on God's green earth would hire you, but any guy that says that two aircraft types (ERJ/CRJ) that have made tons of money for a number of regionals, aren't real airplanes, then you clearly should not be doing any consulting for anyone!!! Also if you have a problem on flying onboard a plane that requires you to walk across the ramp (a mere 20 yds at the most), then the laziness of our country has been taken a new level.

Regional Jet's have cost airlines (Legacy Carriers) more money than they have made on them with the exception of American and Continental. Legacy carriers are losing their asses on RJ operations. The operator's are making money, but the legacy carriers are failing with their dependence of these machines. RJ's were meant to connect smaller communities (low O&D markets) to hubs. In an indsutry where multiple fare buckets are in place it is not efficient to operate an aircraft with extremely limited revenue capabilities. One critical mistake made by legacy carriers is its dependence of RJ's. FL and DH proved RJ's are not profitable. DL is proving RJ's are not profitable. The are small, cramped, uncomfortable and encapable of flights greater than 2 hrs with full loads should there be weather a long the route. I've never seen a 717, 737 or MD-80 with this problem for this stage length. This my friend is not a real airplane, it's merely a want to be.

Quoting 767-332ER (Reply 14):
BTW-I've never seen an aircraft not boarded using stairs when jetways were not available. So your last statement that "Europe uses stairs.." well, I don't know what heck you were talking about there. Do you have to jump from the apron to the cabin when you enplane or deplane a CRJ/ERJ/DC-9/MD-80?

I don't know where you live nor care; however, you might want to get out occassionally. There are several airports with boarding bridges that RJ's cannot use, I flew into CVG on OH and out on RP - neither carrier connects boarding bridges to aircraft. Although, you take stairs from the ramp to the boarding bridge. IF you visit ATL, you will find the same thing with the EV.

I flew all over Europe for the month of September, after I left AMS, I did not see a baording bridge until I departed FCO back to the United States. The 737, MD-80's and Airbus' I flew on all used stairs in place of boarding bridges. The reason I made the European comment was to ward off the European aviation junkies and some how you found me.

You have the right to like the barbie/toy jets, but the EMB is a real airplane. It reminds me of the DC-9-10.


User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3321 times:

Just for the record, Republic Airways Holdings has been operating the Embraer 170 long before Comair had it "dangled in front of them like a carrot." We started revenue service with the E-170 at Chautauqua Airlines in October of 2004.

Those aircraft were all transferred over to the Shuttle America certificate beginning in June/July of '05 and that finished last fall.

The aircraft purchased from MidAtlantic / USAirways are operated by our Republic Airlines subsidiary.

-Tony



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User currently offlineAvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3303 times:

Quoting S5FA170 (Reply 16):
Those aircraft were all transferred over to the Shuttle America certificate beginning in June/July of '05 and that finished last fall.

The aircraft purchased from MidAtlantic / USAirways are operated by our Republic Airlines subsidiary.

-Tony

Does RP have separate operating certificates. Was Mid Atlantic not the "Jet For Jobs" for US Airways? Did all that change in the bankruptcy on recall rights?


User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

Republic Airways Holdings operates three regional airlines on three seperate certificates.

Chautauqua Airlines was the original, and now flies the ERJ-135/140/145 for UA, AA, DL and US.

Shuttle America was purchased in June of '05 and now flies the E-170 for DL and UA. (Some of these aircraft are the aforementioned 170s that CHQ began service with in '04)

Republic Airlines was certified in September of last year and flies the E-170 for USAirways, including the aircraft that came over from MidAtlantic. And yes, MD was the "jets for jobs" solution at Airways as far as I know. And yes, that all changed in bankruptcy when RAH purchased the aircraft, along with landing slots in LGA.

-Tony



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3276 times:

Quoting S5FA170 (Reply 18):
Shuttle America was purchased in June of '05

Well.... they actually owned them for several years through Wexford Mgt.



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User currently offlineFlightShadow From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 947 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3264 times:

Quoting ORD (Reply 8):
You also don't get Channel 9

Yeah! What kind of crap is that? Surely there must be an IFE option on them? Channel 9 is what, in my opinion, makes UA (mainline) better than DL and CO.



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5963 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3250 times:

Quoting AvConsultant (Reply 15):
Regional Jet's have cost airlines (Legacy Carriers) more money than they have made on them with the exception of American and Continental. Legacy carriers are losing their asses on RJ operations.

If that was the case, then why are United and Delta ADDING service, hmm?

Quoting AvConsultant (Reply 15):
The are small, cramped, uncomfortable and encapable of flights greater than 2 hrs with full loads should there be weather a long the route.

Small? Okay, I'll give you that. Cramped? Only if you are a football player, obese, or extremely claustrophobic. Encapable? If you meant UNcapable, then, no, you would still be incorrect. The CRJ can fly comfortably up to 3 hours with full payload. It's the weather at the destination that causes the problems—and not just for RJ's.

Quoting AvConsultant (Reply 15):
I've never seen a 717, 737 or MD-80 with this problem for this stage length. This my friend is not a real airplane, it's merely a want to be.

I guess all of those payload restrictions that American has when they have to reroute, have planned holding, or add an alternate to their west coast MD-80 flights don't count?

Quoting AvConsultant (Reply 6):
Unlike it's competitor (CRJ) and sister (ERJ), it's a real airplane.

Airplane: N.-
Any of various winged vehicles capable of flight, generally heavier than air and driven by jet engines or propellers.

The CRJ and ERJ, the many turboprop and piston powered aircraft, and even ultralights sure fit that description, hence are all indeed real airplanes, or do need more clarification?



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User currently offlineAvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3177 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 21):
If that was the case, then why are United and Delta ADDING service, hmm?

The 2 carriers referencedrnhave lost several mainline aircraft to bankruptcy. Neither airline havernthe same number of CRJ flight prior to their bankruptcy. The same couldrnbe said with all of the markets DL cut on Dec 1st. DL is adding servicernby reallocatingrnaircraft from service cut backs. They have no choice, but to outsourcernflying because they do not have the funds nor credit to acquire newrnaircraft.

Not sure if you've realized the CRJ-200 lines willrnbe closing shortly. Due to no demand; by the way CRJ-700/705/900 arernfacing the same problem. OH had 164 aircraft prior to bankruptcy thatrnnumber should be dropping to 140 (I think someone will clear this up).

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 21):
Small?rnOkay, I'll give you that. Cramped? Only if you are a football player,rnobese, or extremely claustrophobic. Encapable? If you meant UNcapable,rnthen, no, you would still be incorrect. The CRJ can fly comfortably uprnto 3 hours with full payload. It's the weather at the destination thatrncauses the problems---and not just for RJ's

The RJrnare comfortable for petite people. I'm 5'11" 190 lbs, so I'm neitherrnpetite, obese or a football player. Trust me, the CRJ is notrncomfortable. ERJ has the single seat row. Start a post asking if the CRJ and ERJ are comfortable for 2 + hrs. You're nuts thinking it's a 3 hrs comfortable. And you're misinformed thinking the CRJ -200 is a 3 hr airplane with a full payload.

Askrnany CRJ pilot, they will correct you. I asked the pilot of my flightrnfrom CVG - SAT. why he could not carry 46 people. He said, he hadrnspecial permission to waive the alternate requirement and only carry 45rnminute reservernso he would not bump 11 people. Obviously, no weather issue in SAT ifrnthe alternate was waived. To counter your point, this captains responsernwas - "these little airplanes are pushed to their limits at 2.5 hrs."
As your FF what they think!

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 21):
Irnguess all of those payload restrictions that American has when theyrnhave to reroute, have planned holding, or add an alternate to theirrnwest coast MD-80 flights don't count?

I flyrnDFW-LAX/SAN twice a month and never diverted. I'm not saying it doesrnnot happen, I've never experienced and I've heard AA ask for volunteersrnb/c of over sales. Time will tell.

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 21):
The CRJ and ERJ,rnthe many turboprop and piston powered aircraft, and even ultralightsrnsure fit that description, hence are all indeed real airplanes, or dornneed more clarification?

Oh geez, stay on point. I hate bursting your petite bubble; however, the RJ'srnhave replaced the turbo-props as puddle jumpers. This is a commonrnreference used in Concourse C in ATL & CVG and Terminals A&B inrnDFW.


I appreciate the Bombardier fans/employees defending their product. Face it this aircraft is done. The maintenancernprogram for the CRJ aircraft will not carry it much longer. Bombardierrnhas not committed to a program beyond 15 yrs. Operators of this productrnline know this and will start to ramp plans to replace this platform ofrnaircraft. An airline needs 36 -24 months shop and acquire a new fleetrntype. OH launched this aircraft in 1994.

Name one industry leader operating CRJ's. The industries leaders have been replaced with LCC. One attempted and went out of business - DH.


User currently offlineAvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3175 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 19):

Well.... they actually owned them for several years through Wexford Mgt.

RP owned them?

IMO, Brian Bedford one of the most brilliant leaders in this industry.


User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

Brian Bedford is a fine manager. Regardless of everyone's opinion, at the end of the day, we make money, and he seems to know what he's doing!

Wexford Capital owned both Chautauqua Airlines and Shuttle America. CHQ didn't own S5 through Wexford, we just bought them from the same company that owns us. Its all kind of confusing, but saying we owned S5 already is not correct.

-Tony



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25 Goldenshield : How am I misinformed when I know what the aircraft can, and cannot do by sheer experience alone? And so does it's sister, the Brasilia—oi which I a
26 767-332ER : I do not need to respond to your comment regarding the "inefficiency" and how the "legacies" are losing money with regard to their regional partners
27 FlyPNS1 : Wheres the proof that RJ's are moneymakers? The regionals certainly make money on them because they have fixed fee contracts that almost GUARANTEE a
28 Post contains images CRJ900 : In Europe industry leaders Lufthansa (LH Cityline + Eurowings) fly 77 x CRJs and have 12 x CRJ900 on order, Air France regional Brit Air fly 32 x CRJ
29 Planemaker : That argument does not hold water... it is like saying that Boeing would close down the 736 because the CASM is much higher than the 73G and 738. No,
30 TinPusher007 : That's not a fair argument because the 736/G/8/9 are all produced from the same line...each aircraft are essentially identical, save for the fuselage
31 767-332ER : Okay, first of all, the fact that the regionals have contracts with the major carriers is not a guarantee profit. The regionals have to meet the expe
32 TinPusher007 : The cost of doing such would be obscene to say the least. Since DL has the largest fleet of RJ's operated under Delta Connection, I think they do hav
33 FutureFO : The EMB family from the 135 all the way up to the 190 are far superior to the CRJ family. The 135 may be small but it is a pocket rocket a/c and is mo
34 TinPusher007 : Im having a hard time with JFK-AUS being 4 hours.
35 WorldTraveler : Av Consultant, you obviously consult in your dreams and not reality. Your lack of knowledge about the subject is woefully obvious. Many of your statem
36 S5FA170 : What do you mean by this? Are you having a hard time believing that JFK-AUS could take 4 hours? I work this route almost once every week, and I can g
37 TinPusher007 : I never said it was incorrect, I just didn't think it was that long of a flight. I have flown MCO-LAS, CVG-SEA and HNL-LAX all in four hours, I just
38 Post contains images S5FA170 : I just wasn't sure if you meant you didn't think it was 4 hours long or if you meant you were having a hard time with it being 4 hours from an "I've
39 TinPusher007 : Oh no, I'd love to fly on one...actually I'd love to pilot one more than anything. Do you have any interior pics of DL Connection E170's?
40 EMBQA : Just look at any EMB-170 interior... they're all the same. The only differance is the color of the leather. I think the Shuttle America-Delta Connect
41 Planemaker : It is absolutley a fair argument. And the production line has nothing to do with it. I could have just as easily substituted with the A318 (Hamburg)
42 TinPusher007 : Again, you are comparing apples and oranges here and the production line has everything to do with the 737. BOEING does not maufacture the 736 in Ren
43 EMBQA : You'll need to better explain the chain of events that lead to today for me then. I knew Wexford owned both CHQ and S5 for several years. My understa
44 Planemaker : No. You are not knowledgeable about this subject. FYI, the CRJ-700 was initially built in Dorval. The only reason why production was was moved to Mir
45 TinPusher007 : The city where the aircraft is manufactured doesn't necessarily mean they are manufactured on the same LINE. One line builds CRJ200's and the other b
46 Planemaker : You are showing again why you do not understand this topic... there are in fact multiple LINES for both the -200 and the -700/900 models! It is point
47 TinPusher007 : OK Planemaker, Im calling it a day on this one...we just have to agree to disagree on certain things. Good debate though.
48 FlyPNS1 : It's scary but I actually agree with WorldTraveler on this one. Assuming DL is able to negotiate with the DL pilots to allow DCI to take on flying up
49 WorldTraveler : it's rational so it's ok to agree. DL's bankruptcy exit will depend on getting the value out of its subsidiaries and DL needs to recoup its investment
50 FutureFO : There are all ready rumours of us at RAH/CHQ buying Comair. And if that is the case there will be a ton more CRJ's on the open market. Sean from MCO a
51 Post contains images CRJ900 : I'm gathering (from the "debate" in replies 29-47 on this thread) that seats are the main pilot scope clause issue and not aircraft weight, and while
52 DAL767400ER : Don't want to take this off-topic, but to clear things up: Airbus has final assembly (they don't build any plane in just one location) of the A318/31
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