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Air France Announces A3XX Routes.  
User currently offlineAF Cabin Crew From French Polynesia, joined Sep 1999, 1041 posts, RR: 34
Posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2834 times:
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Air France has announced that it will use its A3XX on 5 initial routes as reported by the magazine flight international.
These are :
CDG-JFK
CDG-MIA
CDG-YUL
CDG-LAX and
CDG-NRT.
Air France chairman, Jean-Cyril Spinetta was reported to have mentioned that the airline was facing problems in term of capacity to these destinations.

Also, Emirates is planning to introduce its A3XX to routes from Bubai to LHR, BOM, BKK, MNL and other destinations to Saudi Arabia and Australia. Emirates hasn’t finalised the routes though. It is understood that the airline will configure the plane with 12 First Class seats and 68 Business Class for a 575 seat layout weighted towards economy traffic.

Happy Flying,

AF Cabin Crew.


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User currently offlineAgrodemm From Greece, joined Apr 2000, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

Very interesting
It seems that the A3XX is being incorporated in the strategic planning of AF and of the other airlines that consider employing it.
So now we must wait and see whether A3xx will be finally produced, as planned, and if its specifications will be met as promised.
Regards
Agrodemm


User currently offlineRobin27 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

As Air France and Emitates have announced intended routes, can we expect to see some positive moves from airlines that compete on those routes towards the A3XX and 747X.

Will those airlines decide to go for frequency or feel the need to operate similar large aircraft in order to compete on equal terms. I see a choice between using a sardine can 777 or going VLA with more passenger space. It is possible that initially, operators will not pack the A3XX to capacity, but offer enhanced seat spacing as a sales point with the emphasis on comfort.

This announcment by AF may prompt competitors into action in order to secure early order positions.


User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2471 times:

Hi,

WOW, it'll be excellent to see AF's A3XX at YUL, by the way AF has two daily B747 flights to YUL, will they be replaced with one daily A3XX flight? how is AF's route to YUL doing, will it be profitable for them to use A3XX?

Regards,
Marco



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User currently offlineEmirates777 From Tanzania, joined Feb 2000, 655 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2383 times:

AF Cabin Crew,
I would be interested to hear your source of info for Emirates' A3XX routes. As far as I know EK has only made regional references to the use of its A3XXs.

We know about LHR, and the other routes you mentioned look like good candidates. On Saudi Arabia, I think the main route will be Jeddah. I think BOM will be heavily dependent on the Indian govt. increasing capacity restrictions. While they have shown some willingness to do so recently, in order to operate the A3XX to BOM frequently it would take a big increase in capacity allocation.

Rgds,
Emirates777


User currently offlineIshky15 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 717 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2347 times:

How many seats will be configured for their A3XXs? Is their really a 500+ seat demand for MIA-CDG?

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8034 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2307 times:

Ishky15,

I have news for you. For adult vacationers (especially among the "jet set"), MIA is a very popular vacation spot indeed.

The development of the South Beach area into perhaps the hottest nightclub spot in the world in the last 15 years has attracted a massive worldwide crowd to visit that place, and believe me, a lot of people want visit Miami due to this, along with the area's other warm-weater attractions.

This is why CDG-MIA is going to be one of the first routes for AF's A3XX fleet--they have the demand for it.


User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2601 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2298 times:

But "jet set" people a) either fly First Class or b) have their own planes to fly to Miami. I would think that the cruise line traffic departiing Miami has a lot to do with it.

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8034 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2268 times:

Well, a lot of "jet set" people also fly Business Class, too. The fact the A3XX has a large First and Business Class area indicates there is big demand for premium-fare services on many routes.

However, I did forget that Miami is perhaps the world's busiest cruise ship port.  That explains why (besides the traffic to Latin America) that this airport is so busy.


User currently offlineTailscraper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2249 times:

Airliner World report that EK are also interested in the 747X!! They'll be wanting a space shuttle next...  

User currently offlineVarig md-11 From France, joined Jul 2000, 1605 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2244 times:

AF has enough booking on CDG-MIA for an A3XX since for the time being it uses a 747 daily and 3 more flights weekly also on 747.A3XX will allow to suppress the 3 extra weekly flights


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User currently offlineAF Cabin Crew From French Polynesia, joined Sep 1999, 1041 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2227 times:
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Hello Emirates777 !

I got my information from Flight International 1-7 August 2000.
On page 17, they mention Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al-Maktoum, EK's chairman.
Also, I did say that nothing was finalised about the future route structure.

Happy Flying,

AF Cabin Crew.


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User currently offlineEmirates777 From Tanzania, joined Feb 2000, 655 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

Hello AF Cabin Crew,
Thanks for info. I'll check it out.
Rgds,
Emirates777


User currently offlineATL From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

Hey,
any chance that we will see the A3XX in Atlanta with it being a hub for Delta and with their alliance with Air France.

Thanks
Craig


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