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Largest And Most Profitable Turbo Prop Airlines  
User currently offlineCurious From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 236 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5837 times:

Any Idea's?

How about FLYBE?

Thanks

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User currently offlineWeb From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5797 times:

Or Horizon; they have some jets too but also have a large turboprop fleet. They're also quite profitable.


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User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5797 times:

Don't forget AC Jazz have lots of Dash 8s..

User currently offlineQantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1286 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5738 times:

My guess is Augsburg Airways with Q400`s Q300`s and Q200`s , or Air Dolomiti with ATR72 and ATR42, they do many flights from MUC to Italy for LH,
and are very profitable.

I usually fly them twice a month to visit family in Italy.

Cheers Leo



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User currently offlineILCFII From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5669 times:

How about Piedmont??

User currently offlineGeorgiabill From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 577 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5646 times:
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How about Aer Arann or Binter Canaris both have large ATR fleets.

User currently offlineScalebuilder From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5613 times:

Quoting Curious (Thread starter):
Any Idea's?

SAS subsidiary Widerøe flies a fairly large fleet of Dash-100, 300 and the Q400. From what I understand the airline covers an extensive domestic network within Norway, but also offers scheduled service to Newscastle, Gothenburg and Copenhagen (not sure from where) and seasonal service to the Shetland Islands.

The airline has been one of the financial bright spots within the SAS group where losses have been recurring within several of its divisions.


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5551 times:

What about Air NZ Link? Tyrolean, Binter Canarias,Cirrus,

Quoting Scalebuilder (Reply 6):
SAS subsidiary Widerøe flies a fairly large fleet of Dash-100, 300 and the Q400. From what I understand the airline covers an extensive domestic network within Norway, but also offers scheduled service to Newscastle, Gothenburg and Copenhagen (not sure from where) and seasonal service to the Shetland Islands.

Dont they fly to Aberdeen as well?



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User currently offlineFURUREFA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 801 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5551 times:

Does Colgan make any money? Any expansion plans for them?

matt


User currently offlineScalebuilder From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5508 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 7):
Dont they fly to Aberdeen as well?

Right you are!

Looks like Edinburgh is included too. My guess is that demand is present on both of these due to the strong presence of oil companies.

Cool website! http://www.wideroe.no. Available in Norwegian, German and English.


User currently offlineCurious From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5470 times:

Indeed there seems to be a few of them, I gues the formula for most of these is relatively niche market/routes and very economical aircrafts?

User currently offlineScalebuilder From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5389 times:

Quoting Curious (Reply 10):
Indeed there seems to be a few of them, I gues the formula for most of these is relatively niche market/routes and very economical aircrafts?

Absolutely true.

Public subsidies likely play a big role too in small communities where air service is considered essential but unviable without those subsidies.

But these subsidies do not represent a "buffer" that will allow for small commuter airlines to run less efficient operations. Subsidies may help services to break even. However, they are not equivalent to profitability.


User currently offlineSJC>SFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5373 times:

Quoting FURUREFA (Reply 8):

I sure as hell hope not. As discussed on a recent FT thread, Colgan has one of the worst dispatch rates in the UAX system. Their mechanicals are costing UA hundreds in hotel rooms, taxis, food and CS vouchers. If those are being charged to Colgan, then I'm sure they're making very little money... if UA has been picking up the tab, then I'm sure they'll be renogotiating the terms of their contract soon.

Colgan DOES get a lot of revenue from their LGA ops under the US banner, because those are not pay-per-departure, and fares are sky-high. They make good money on investment banks and consulting firms who fly kids out of the college towns they serve up to New York for interviews.


User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2404 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4982 times:

Ill say QX. Very profitable  Smile


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User currently offlineOnetogo From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4768 times:

Quoting ILCFII (Reply 4):
How about Piedmont??

 thumbsup 


User currently offlineFuffla From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4728 times:

Regional Express (REX) in Australia have done very well for themselves. Half yearly revenue this financial year was $13.2 million ($AUD) up from 3.9 million last year. And the purchase of Airlink and the possible purchase of a regional Queensland operator, they are doing very well.

User currently offlineAcjflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 426 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4170 times:

OO had a large fleet of E120's before making a change to the CRJ. They seemed to turn a large profit although with the large push of CRJ's they may not be considered to be in the turboprop sector any longer

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4159 times:

Quoting Acjflyer (Reply 16):
OO had a large fleet of E120's before making a change to the CRJ.

OO still has by far the largest fleet of Brasilias in the world



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4148 times:

Quoting Acjflyer (Reply 16):
OO had a large fleet of E120's before making a change to the CRJ.

And they still have them! the WestAir purchased just added a TON of them to the fleet!



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User currently offlineAcjflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 426 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4138 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
OO still has by far the largest fleet of Brasilias in the world

Which for some reason or another is my favorite turboprop so I'm glad they are keeping a few of them around. So plain yet so beautiful.

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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4125 times:

Quoting Acjflyer (Reply 19):
Which for some reason or another is my favorite turboprop so I'm glad they are keeping a few of them around. So plain yet so beautiful.

It isn't a few. They have 62 of them and they are the backbone of the California Corridor UAX fleet.



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User currently offlineAcjflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 426 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4079 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 20):
It isn't a few. They have 62 of them and they are the backbone of the California Corridor UAX fleet.

I stand corrected. Thank you N1120A for that information and helping me get it right.


User currently offlineTheSorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4079 times:

Quoting Scalebuilder (Reply 9):
Looks like Edinburgh is included too. My guess is that demand is present on both of these due to the strong presence of oil companies.

That's definitely the case in Aberdeen, there is huge demand for the ABZ-SVG route. City Star Alliance and both SAS and wideroe operate this route. Most oil companies that have an office in Aberdeen have an office in stavanger as well so there are regularly meetings and maybe the fact that ABZ and SVG are partner cities (or whatever the term is) . I'm not sure about Edinburgh, AFAIK there's not many oil companies down there.

Dominic  Smile



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User currently offlineAlespesl From Czech Republic, joined Jan 2004, 582 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4079 times:

Quoting Scalebuilder (Reply 9):
Cool website! http://www.wideroe.no. Available in Norwegian, German and English.

Wideroe is great. The company I work for uses them a lot for flights between Stavanger (SVG) and Sandefjord (TRF).

I am flying with Wideroe on Mar 19 from SVG to ABZ. Can't wait.



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User currently offlineCKT789 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4052 times:

http://www.flybe.com/about/default.htm

Flybe had half year profits of £14 million.


25 TheSorcerer : Do all of Wideroe's A/C still have leather seats? thanks Dominic
26 Byronsterk : I'dd go for Aer Arann maybe also KLM Cityhopper with a F50 fleet. (but they also have F70/100)
27 N1120A : Never a problem. I fly on them all the time into OXR.
28 Post contains links and images RootsAir : Apparently FlyBaboo is doing extremely well ! They are a GVA based airline. Now they are offering amazing comptition to LX and the CFF(local train com
29 Curious : But I wonder about one thing, although the aircraft are quite economical they are not that cheap circa $20M for ATR72 I believe and the desirable mode
30 Scalebuilder : I think public subsidies play a significant role for commuter airlines. Though I can't speak to how this works in every part of the world. In many co
31 Post contains images BuyantUkhaa : Another successful turboprop-only airline is VLM, who operates only F50's, with most of their operators being O/D traffic in and out of LCY. Interesti
32 Curious : Yes I was wondering about F50 operators? these are quite old/previous generation of Turboprops, what kind of fuel use do they have are how do they sta
33 Nijltje : VLM is not in any alliance have no FF programme but most of their passengers are business travellers. They use F50 because maintenance wise they are g
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