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User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5467 posts, RR: 13
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 days ago) and read 3569 times:

We have the thread about rude nasty passengers. My pet peave of the day are folks who think a commercial airliner is akin to an outhouse! We have 25 minute turns. This enables us to charge cheap fares to popular destinations. Meaning during the busy day, we don't have the luxury of time to make the planes spic and span. We laugh and dread inbound flights from MCO. Why? Because you have families where the semi braindead parents don't know good manners and common sense from a hole in the head! When me and my sister were coming of age, our parents laid down the law. You make a mess, your butt will just stay home. We were told in no uncertain terms to clean up after ourselves when out in public. Which of course included flying. How would you like to clean up that mess? Was part of my parent's vocabulary. Meaning, would you get down on your hands and knees and clean up your shit? We got the message. Is this too much to ask today? Flight attendants tell me of instances where clueless mothers would ask them to discipline their evil spawn! Yeah right! Try that and chances are good that you will have some lawyer breathing up your ass! It would be cool to have hidden mini-cameras next to the gaspers and lights. So, when we would be faced with a row of seats with ground in cheesey goldfish, kiddy puke, discarded turd laden diapers/nappies we could trace those slovenly passengers and present them with a nice little bill for cleanup and hazmat removal. Just maybe, these miscreants will learn, that the cabin of a 717 is not their personal shit shack!

http://tecfa.unige.ch/~nova/img/piles.jpg

Where the f*&k are those mickey mouse ears???



I paid $49.00 for my ticket to Orlando! The stewardess can clean up little
Connor's poopy mess! Thats what they get paid for!



I'm Zippyjet & I approve of this message!
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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days ago) and read 3563 times:

Hey how'd you get those pictures of my friend's house?

User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days ago) and read 3563 times:

AMEN ZIPPYJET! It's about god-damned time someone vocalized this. I remember once at TWA I worked with the cleaners in ATH. Now THERE was a nasty flight. The entire 747 (N93119, believe it or not) was pretty much marinated in these pax' junk and filth!


Next trip: SLC-LAX-JFK-LAX-SLC on AA, gotta say goodbye to my beloved 762!
User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1386 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3538 times:

Zippyjet,I was laughing so hard that I almost piss*d myself...oh,oh too late!

User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3534 times:

Is that a jetBlue reciept down there?  box 


Next trip: SLC-LAX-JFK-LAX-SLC on AA, gotta say goodbye to my beloved 762!
User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3489 times:

Quoting 9252fly (Reply 3):
I was laughing so hard that I almost piss*d myself...oh,oh too late!

Just make sure you clean up after yourself!


User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5467 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3481 times:

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 2):
AMEN ZIPPYJET! It's about god-damned time someone vocalized this.

Imagine a flight that just got in from Mickey Mouse's house. The crew greets me and warns me about funky row 14. The crew deplanes. This bird has a complete crew changeover and then is bound for BOS or ROC. 125 souls exit the plane. Remember, our 717's seat 117 people which means, surprise surprise, 8 bambinos were part of the mix! The outbound flight took 117 out (to ROC or BOS). Business class and rows 10 thru. 12 had your normal crap from an inbound MCO flight, junk food wrappers, our complimentary headphones and ground into the blue carpet orange FL Save the Whales cheesy fishy things. When ground into the floor they smell like feet on a warm and humid Baltimore day. Par for the course! And then, eeeks



This picture doesn't do justice to what Zippyjet encountered in the HORROR OF FUNKY ROW 14! Imagine puke all over the seat cushions, seatback and yes seat pocket. It was humongous hurl! And the pile on the floor featured a lovely mix of what looked like macaroni and cheese au jous puke! Garnished in what looked like Oodles and Noodles. Mix in some our oh so cheesy FL Save the Whale's fishy things, and a soggy pee logged box of some generic brand of Nilla Wafers that looked to be half chewed. And I forgot the crowning touch of several greesy soiled bags of fast food, semi chewed chicken or I think pidgeon nuggets. Uum uum good  vomit  The hazmat powder shit that supposedly neutralizes and drys up wet hazmat matter just was no match for the HORROR OF FUNKY ROW 14! We had to cover said organic puke de ville with trash bags and put a big white and blue tape that rendered this row of seats out of order! Three passengers got free round trips, hotel and meals. So, this cretin family cost us more than just the major cleanup and de-hazmatting of: THE HORROR OF FUNKY ROW 14!


  • This family of miscreants must be found and prevented from further terrorization via bodily fluids.
  • Made to pony up and defray the expenses incurred. Even if that means, them having to surrender their big gas guzzline SUV complete with abundant succulent waste products and those Bush Cheney bumper stickers over to the sloppy seconds hall of fame of grotesque horrors!
  • Momma and paps should both be steralized both figurative and literally; so they can never again reproduce and to erradicate as much of the funk as possible.


I believe I heard stories that the Little Mermaid stole Cinderella's lost slipper down at Disney and inhaled the footsy fumes rather than having to deal with that awful family that created, THE HORROR OF FUNKY ROW 14!









Where the f&^k are Cinderella's or Alice N Wonderland's smelly slippers when you need them?



I'm Zippyjet & I approve of this message!
User currently offlineCtbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3481 times:

Oh, goody. Another passengers are idiots thread.  Yeah sure

It never ceases to amaze me how much this industry really hates its customers.

Charles, SJ



The customer isn't a moron, she is your wife -David Ogilvy
User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5467 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3471 times:

Quoting Ctbarnes (Reply 7):
Oh, goody. Another passengers are idiots thread.

It never ceases to amaze me how much this industry really hates its customers.

Charles, SJ

You mean, we should go and give them a hug and rub their feet? Not to be catty, but as they say on Jerry Springer: "Go To Oprah!"



I'm Zippyjet & I approve of this message!
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13004 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3468 times:

Problem is that some passangers are idiots, or at least irresponsable people. Would you want some visitor to your house to act in the same way? So why act so uncouth on an airplane?

User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3398 times:

Exactly LTBEWR, I wonder what makes these people act like this, on planes? When i get on a plane, it's my temple until time to disembark...


Next trip: SLC-LAX-JFK-LAX-SLC on AA, gotta say goodbye to my beloved 762!
User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4293 posts, RR: 36
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3350 times:

ok I know it's an uphill battle but just wanted to throw in a countervailing view. In Economy when the plane is full, it's nearly impossible to pick the trash of the ground, either if you are seated or when you deboard. I once dropped a blanket and cup on the ground during the flight and waited to pick them up til after we arrived, but impossible due to the other passengers at the aisle as well.


nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineCainanuk From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 551 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3338 times:

Quoting Ctbarnes (Reply 7):

Here here. We seem to forget that we are a customer service based industry. No passengers = No airline.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 9):

Simple fact is that our passengers are NOT guests. They ARE paying customers and some people are jerks that feel that $49 tickets to Orlando entitle them to drop their food wrapper on the floor. But at the end of the day you just have to suck it up and deal with it.

I work in customer service for a Star Alliance airline and it amazes me how many people in this industry hate our customers. If you cant deal with customer service then dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.



Cainan Cornelius
User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3588 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3320 times:

Quoting Cainanuk (Reply 12):
Simple fact is that our passengers are NOT guests. They ARE paying customers and some people are jerks that feel that $49 tickets to Orlando entitle them to drop their food wrapper on the floor. But at the end of the day you just have to suck it up and deal with it.

My problem is with airlines that charge $49.00 for tickets. These unprofitable prices are the cause of Mr. Trailer Trash and his common law wife flying at all, instead of just driving their pick-up truck to where they are going (or staying home on the porch).

This is also the cause of the airport congestion, as these morons try to find their way through security with the kitchen sink among their carry-ons, extra searches due to the metal in the steel plates in their heads, and gawking at all the neat stuff in the airport concourse (like shopping, and food, and indoor plumbing, and everything... gee whiz!).

I think a tax of $100 OW per short haul, $200 OW per medium haul and $300 OW per long haul should be imposed just to get these scumbags off of the planes.

The money can be rebated back to the airlines at the end of the year.


User currently offlineNwafflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1050 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3293 times:

Yes, you are a service industry, but there's a limit to what you should be expected to do. As a very frequent flyer, I dread trips to Florida -- for the exact same reason. When I was growing up, I was expected to behave, basically, in public, don't speak unless spoken too, and do what I was told.

Parents today are different - the same thing happens in restaurants. Two screaming kids can ruin dinner for 40 people. Asian children are wonderfully well behaved, as are Mexican and South American kids. Most European kids are also good. It's us, the great US, and I blame the parents, not the kids. I feel for the people cleaning the planes, but even more, I feel for the poor people who were in row 15


User currently offlineSATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 13):
I think a tax of $100 OW per short haul, $200 OW per medium haul and $300 OW per long haul should be imposed just to get these scumbags off of the planes.

They already have such a system. It's called the private jet fleet and it does an absolutely fantastic job of keeping all the lowly "scumbags" off of the planes including, apparently, those who complain about commercial travel on internet airline forums.

[Edited 2006-03-12 14:08:01]


Open Season on Consumer Protections is Just Around the Corner...
User currently offlineNwafflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1050 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3224 times:

I disagree here -- I sympathize totally with Zippyjet and all the other airline workers on here. There is no need for a person to turn into a pig, or allow their families to be 'pigs' just because they are on a plane. A hotel would charge them for damages. They give all passengers a bad name, add to the cost of travel for all of us, and are poor examples of the human race.

My dogs are better behaved, yet they cannot travel in the cabin.


User currently offlineDon81603 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 1185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3195 times:

Ah, welcome to the "New World Order".
When I was growing up, any signs of lack of respect was dealt with in a way that made sitting uncomfortable. I know I'll get flamed for this, but IMHO, making spanking illegal was one of the 20th centuries worst ideas. It, or the threat/fear thereof helped keep many of us in line, and helped to instill the good habits we have today. What discipline do we have now? A time out! Well, stop the presses! How many kids/monsters today are swayed by this? None. Kids know there's little a parent can do, so they know they can get away with damn near anything their little heart desires, and no repercussions! As for adults acting like this, I'd say the worst ones are in the 25-35 year age bracket, products of the first years of "No Spanking".

Yes, I had my butt whooped a few times. Not too many, just enough to let me know where the line was. A few times I pressed my luck, and wandered over the line just a wee bit, and I was knocked back to the proper side of the line in short order. Again, not enough to hurt (save for feelings and pride), but it was effective, and as I stated earlier, it instilled good habits I carry to this day.

By the way, Zippy, where'd you get the pics of my EX wife's apartment? You must have told her you were coming. Looks like she tidied it up a bit.



Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3492 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3179 times:

I pay for my ticket. That pays the cleaners salary. I can shit all over the place, leave my 12 empty beer bottles and empty burger wrappers all over the place and piss all over the lavatory. Who the hell cares, I don't clean it up. I'm the average person. I don't care about anyone but myself.

-Your average "Low-Fare" style passenger.



Support the beer and soda can industry, recycle old airplanes!
User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4036 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3175 times:

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 11):
I once dropped a blanket and cup on the ground during the flight and waited to pick them up til after we arrived, but impossible due to the other passengers at the aisle as well.

Yes, but there's a huge difference between that, which is obviously an accident, and other common offenses such as leaving used Kleenex wads in the seat back pocket, getting your peanuts or pretzels or what have everywhere BUT in your mouth...half eaten cheeseburgers crammed into the seat back, the dirty diaper surreptitiously wedged against the side of the plane under the window seat....

As one who has vacuumed many a RON plane I ask myself, why open every bag of peanuts you get if you do not plan on eating them?


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5789 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

Its not airline passengers but society.

I've seen people drop trash on the ground in a park or shopping center even though the trash can is just a few steps away. Or leave cups and popcorn containers on the floor at a movie theater even though there is a trash can as you leave each theater.

How much trash has to be picked up off US highways every year? In California alone it was 11,500,000 pounds picked up by CalTrans from highways in 2004.

Don't phrase this in terms of just airline passengers, many people are just plain sloppy, thoughtless and lazy to pick up after themselves.



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4036 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3110 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 20):
Its not airline passengers but society.

Sad as that is, absolutely true. It took me months to break my girlfriend of the habit of tossing her cigarette butts out the window even though her car's ashtray was empty. When she moved out here I told her, "that might fly in DC, but don't mess up my Northwest."

Now if I could only break her of smoking, period.


User currently offlineLhrmaccoll From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3096 times:

Hahahahahahahaha thankyou for this post, it really does make a hell of a lot of sense

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 21):
Its not airline passengers but society.

You got that one right
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User currently offlineCainanuk From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 551 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3052 times:

Quoting Nwafflyer (Reply 14):
My problem is with airlines that charge $49.00 for tickets. These unprofitable prices are the cause of Mr. Trailer Trash and his common law wife flying at all, instead of just driving their pick-up truck to where they are going (or staying home on the porch).

This is also the cause of the airport congestion, as these morons try to find their way through security with the kitchen sink among their carry-ons, extra searches due to the metal in the steel plates in their heads, and gawking at all the neat stuff in the airport concourse (like shopping, and food, and indoor plumbing, and everything... gee whiz!).

My oh my dont we paint with a very broad brush? Very pig headed and narrow minded comments by you Sir. Guess you are just pissed because your "legacy" carrier of choice, the one that certainly would not allow such commoner scum on board, will be no more soon? Hmm...



Cainan Cornelius
User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3010 times:

Quoting Cainanuk (Reply 12):
are jerks that feel that $49 tickets to Orlando entitle them to drop their food wrapper on the floor. But at the end of the day you just have to suck it up and deal with it

If you toss that same wrapper on the lawn of a public park you can be fined for littering. It never ceased to amaze me how after running up and down the aisle doezens of time with the trashbags I would still find nasty surprises hidden creatively all over the plane.


25 Cainanuk : I see your argument but this is not a public park. This is an airplane. Just like people make a mess in a restaurant or a hotel room (both service in
26 Post contains images WesternA318 : Amen, sounds like my ex Sarah, she and her returned-from-Iraq vet (who isnt too bright in the first place) were flying from JFK to LGB and they were
27 B777-700 : Do you guys like sitting in that? No, he's actually right. It is partially the airlines fault. Low fares attract low class people, no matter the airl
28 HPRamper : I would argue that low fares are not the problem. First class is generally as dirty as the rest of the plane, and in some cases worse. Those are not l
29 MD-90 : I saw bathrooms like the second picture in the thread starter while on a mission in Bay St. Louis after Hurricane Katrina. Crap (not literally...I hop
30 ContnlEliteCMH : Well, if it weren't for those stupid users, we computer geeks would have a much better time! I wonder how many of the cretins are the same people I s
31 ILOVEA340 : For heavens sake don't tlet these people take greyhound. I'm stuck on Greyhound a few times a year to get home from school when EUG-SFO fares are high
32 Zippyjet : I love my job! I realize one of the not so nice aspects are some passengers have their stupid, and messy episodes. Where I draw the line is when it co
33 FiveMileFinal : What kills me is that people here think this is solely a problem with the "lower class." Small hint: It's not.
34 WesternA318 : Nope, theyre all upgrades...
35 Redneckslim : In Taxi Driver he said he had to "wipe the kum off the seats" in his cab, I wonder if the drunken spring break crowd screw in the seats and leave litt
36 HPRamper : And that's when you politely deposit the diaper (opened) on the mother's lap. EXTREMELY hard to get away with in a full airplane cabin.
37 WesternA318 : He just shoved it over to her baby bag between her feet.
38 Ctbarnes : No, I'm the one whose expected to do that. Sometimes I wonder if by my presence in the terminal I'm just enabling bad service and/or bad staff attitu
39 KLM11 : The thing that just amazes me are the callow attitudes many of the airline employes have toward the customers! Unfortunally, the world is not perfect,
40 HPRamper : That does not apply to people doing physical things like this. If I expect a person on a plane to leave garbage behind, that will not mysteriously ma
41 ILOVEA340 : But to a certain degree it is for not keeping the "accident" contained. I don't know about you but I have never vomitted so suddenly that there was a
42 Skydrol : Zippyjet, your mission: Bring a camera to get photos of some of the worst pax aftermaths and post them here. Maybe then you would get sympathy from th
43 FCYTravis : The customer is not always right. If a customer does something completely voluntarily that causes the company to lose money on the seat (like so terr
44 Ctbarnes : You think that's bad, try a hospital. My first job was working in food service. The stuff that would sometimes come back on the trays were disgusting
45 Mir : This is true, and they shouldn't be expected to. But their parents should be expected to keep them at least somewhat in check. Physiological stuff is
46 IAirAllie : It happened to me once. I got very sudden violent foodpoisoning. I started to cross santa monica blvd in LAX feeling a little queasy by the time I go
47 HPRamper : Pay the fare and you're entitled to make a mess? Hardly. You're entitled to transportation by air and nothing else. I pay to stay in hotel rooms, that
48 Don81603 : I don't know about airlines pax, but when I drove taxi, there would always be a mystery mess that needed cleaning. Fortunately, the cab company had t
49 Ctbarnes : I don't think so, particularly when you add family and other visitors into the mix. Charles, SJ
50 BigOrange : I sympathize with Zippyjet. Never been a flight attendant, but my first job years ago entailed travelling with groups of amateur sports teams, from t
51 Post contains links Goingboeing : No, it certainly isn't....how about this guy: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/altitude/monday1.html
52 IAirAllie : Your examples weren't of family/visitor behavior. If families and visitors trash hospital rooms that is wrong too doesn't make it ok for manners to d
53 Ctbarnes : It still happened and still we dealt with it. My criticism is not about trying to justify or make apologies for boorish behavior. It is about the per
54 Post contains images Zippyjet : I'm glad, you included not all! Just as, Not All Pax are stupid, mean, churlish! Actually far from it! We could probably start a thread on the positi
55 Marcus : Once on an AM flight this woman started changing her babys diaper right there on her seat...................RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF MEAL SERVICE!!!!!!
56 Post contains images Zippyjet : Funky nappies add ambiance to a meal service! Yummy I've got a great compromise idea! Air goats! The goats can then feast on the funk. And then every
57 Post contains images Skydrol : . After the cretins from 'FUNKY ROW 14' used the lav, Zippyjet wasn't warned about this. These are all the links to photos I could still find of trash
58 Ballpeeen : This is a great time to mention my new airline idea, tentatively titled "Air Anesthesia". Take a stripped-down cargo plane, one doctor and several nur
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