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Pan Am Interchange Questions  
User currently offlineSimairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 922 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2097 times:

I'm interested in the interchange flights Pan Am had with domestic carriers over the years. I've been able to find the following from my timetables:

Braniff: Houston-Dallas-Chicago-London-Frankfurt (707)
Delta: New Orleans-Atlanta-Washington-London-Frankfurt (DC-8)
Northwest Orient: Minneapolis/St. Paul-Detroit-London (707)

Some unusual questions:
-The domestic carriers' aircraft did fly on to Europe, but what about vice versa?
-What specific models were used? Did Delta use the -33s they bought from Pan Am?
-Did Northwest Orient participate in it to Europe, or was that just Braniff and Delta? Route maps from Airchive seem to indicate this to be the case.

Thanks in advance!

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User currently offlineA999 From Norway, joined Mar 2004, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2076 times:

The 7 ex-PanAm DC-8-33s were indeed deployed on the DL/PA interchange to Europe (and on selected long-haul domestic routes as well). At that time you could see the Delta Widget at LHR! The others I have no info about, but as the domestic carriers flew to Europe they also had to return, didn`t they?

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

Quoting Simairlinenet (Thread starter):
Delta: New Orleans-Atlanta-Washington-London-Frankfurt (DC-8)

The ATL-IAD-LHR route during the mid-70s was done using the 747:


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Quoting Simairlinenet (Thread starter):
Did Delta use the -33s they bought from Pan Am?

The 747's DL used were 747-132s, which they had ordered themselves. I believe they had a total of five. Pan Am's Boeing code was -21.


User currently offlineXaphan From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 129 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1986 times:

I made several trips on DL DC 8-33s on domestic runs from MIA-SFO nonstop. That was a long flight, but certainly not beyond the capabilities of the DC 8-51.

User currently offlineBostonBeau From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1978 times:

There were also interchanges at Boston between Pan Am, Delta, and Northwest. More often than not, it was a Northwest B707 that operated PanAm's Boston-London flight in the Winter, and a Delta DC-8 between Boston and Paris. I believe the Northwest flight was operated MSP-DTW-BOS-LHR and the Delta flight ATL-IAD-BOS-Paris (not sure whether ORY or CDG at that point)

Added: I think the actual interchanges may have taken place at DTW and IAD since neither Delta nor Northwest operated on their own to BOS at that time.

[Edited 2006-03-12 17:04:20]

User currently offlineLhrmaccoll From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

Quoting A999 (Reply 1):
At that time you could see the Delta Widget at LHR!

Good times. Can't wait for it to happen again
A


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