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Delta Fare Letter Classes L, U, T, H, Q, K, Etc.  
User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6648 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 63969 times:

What does each one of them exactly mean?

The Delta website says this:
L, U, T, H, Q, K - Lowest Fares
B, M - Discounted
Y - Flexible
P, F, A, C, D, J, I - First/Business

What does each one mean INDIVDUALLY? I do believe that L, U, and T are the cheapest, but I do not know which is cheapest out of those three. I do also know that F and A are first class, while D and J are Business. There is also another that is not listed, N. N is Coach fares purchased with SkyMiles. Are there any others?


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User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 63942 times:

L, U, T in that order, higest to lowest. Generally speaking T is the lowest in almost all cases.

N = SM coack
R = SM first
O = SM BizE
G = SM upgrade, 1st
Z = SM upgrade, BizE


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 63920 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
What does each one mean INDIVDUALLY?

Usually differences in regards to refunds, changes, etc. I used to have a good link on delta.com that explained them somewhat. Let me dig around and see if I can find it again.

Edit: This was the link but it is now broken.

http://www.delta.com/mqm-calculator/help/class.jsp

[Edited 2006-03-12 22:48:51]


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User currently offlineGOCAPS16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4364 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 63884 times:

hehe, as a Gold Medallion on Delta, I usually TRY my hardest to book the "T" fare class on my coast to coast flights. They are the cheapest. Sometimes if I have to, I'll book an L class for $30 more if T fares runs out. Lately on delta.com, I've been seeing so many H, K, M, and Y class but now which my flexible weekends, now i'm seeing alot of good T class prices.

Kevin



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User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 63880 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
What does each one mean INDIVIDUALLY? I

Well, quite simply, what fare basis you have. And, just to be clear, all airlines do this, not just DL.

Gone are the days of coach, discounted coach, and first class as the only fare types. These others are simply a placement of the scale from T (lowest side of coach) to Y (highest side of coach).

The pricing models at Delta.com and most mechanisms that resell tickets also have to select among the available inventory. Including Simplifares, which, opened up the inventory of some of the lower fares - keep in mind, no fare types went away, and the high ends were capped. Now, capped higher, and whatever.

So, within the available inventory of ALL seats on a possible sale- including any relevant connections, the 'default' on Delta.com and most resell mechanisms is to find the lowest available fare class for the flight. BUT, there may not be any (an indicator of very little seats available) in the lowest (T) fare class, and it goes up from there, stopping at Y. Rolling over to F/J/I/D/A/P/C if applicable.

Don't think too much about this. You are really wasting your time.



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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2951 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 63872 times:

I think there is a Z class for industry, isn't there?

User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 63848 times:

Quoting B4real (Reply 4):
Rolling over to F/J/I/D/A/P/C if applicable.

I don't think DL offers any "P" designated fares anymore. I know it indicates they do on parts of their site, but it indicates that they don't on others. Either way isn't "P" only used in 3-class configs?



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User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 63837 times:

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 6):

I don't think DL offers any "P" designated fares anymore. I know it indicates they do on parts of their site, but it indicates that they don't on others. Either way isn't "P" only used in 3-class configs?

Good point, I've never seen P or C offerred on Delta.com, but they do mention it.



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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 63813 times:

Quoting B4real (Reply 7):
Good point, I've never seen P or C offerred on Delta.com, but they do mention it.

What about on flights with Delta's codeshare partners?



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User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 63786 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 8):
What about on flights with Delta's codeshare partners

I would think that C would show up there possibly. But, like I said, I've never seen P or C. Heck, maybe someone with a lot of free time can try to find one!



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User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 63729 times:

Quoting B4real (Reply 9):
I would think that C would show up there possibly. But, like I said, I've never seen P or C. Heck, maybe someone with a lot of free time can try to find one!

C exists, as do D, I & J. Those fare classes that DL shows are only for DL operated flights, not their partners.



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User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 63718 times:

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 10):
C exists, as do D, I & J. Those fare classes that DL shows are only for DL operated flights, not their partners.

Curiously, give me a route example for C.



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User currently offlineWindowSeat From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1312 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 63718 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 2):
Usually differences in regards to refunds, changes, etc.

Well, not mostly in change fees, but if you were to be charged the price difference to change the ticket, it can be quite the sum if you are going from let's say a T fare to a H or something.

Delta at one point also had limited the number of MQMs or Medallion Qualifying miles that can be earned on T fares, but soon abandoned the idea after stiff resistance from Medallion members.

Also, some of the lower fares such as T, L and Q are not eligible for 'buying' an upgrade to First class at the gate for $50-75 or whatever it is.

cheers



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User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 63699 times:

Quoting WindowSeat (Reply 12):
Well, not mostly in change fees, but if you were to be charged the price difference to change the ticket, it can be quite the sum if you are going from let's say a T fare to a H or something.

Oh yeah, I had once a T fared ticket end up being more expensive than a full Y with last minute changes!



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User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 63663 times:

Quoting WindowSeat (Reply 12):
Also, some of the lower fares such as T, L and Q are not eligible for 'buying' an upgrade to First class at the gate for $50-75 or whatever it is.

Actually it's L, U & T. Q is eligible for upgrades at the gate.

Quoting B4real (Reply 11):
Curiously, give me a route example for C.

Can't find one right now on a DL operated flights. Found a few on some codeshares with AF.



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User currently offlineDelta Fly Boy From Japan, joined Oct 2000, 242 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 63638 times:

760 REVENUE MANAGEMENT CLASS OF SERVICE Page 14

01 -------------------------------------------------------
02 .
03 - INVENTORY CLASSES OF SERVICE -
04 .
05 FIRST CLASS ...............G-12
06 BUSINESS CLASS.............G-24
07 COACH CLASS................G-36
08 .
09 .
10 .
11 -------------------------------------------------------
12 -------------------------------------------------------
13 .
14 FIRST CLASS CABIN
15 .
16 F - FULL FIRST CLASS
17 A - DISCOUNT FIRST CLASS
18 V - SKYMILES UPGRADE - ELITE
19 G - SKYMILES UPGRADE - NORMAL
20 R - FREE
21 .
22 -------------------------------------------------------
23 .
24 -------------------------------------------------------
25 BUSINESS CLASS CABIN
26 .
27 J - PREMIUM BUSINESS CLASS
28 C - FULL BUSINESS
29 D - DISCOUNT BUSINESS
30 I - DEEP DISCOUNTED BUSINESS
31 X - SKYMILES UPGRADE - ELITE
32 Z - SKYMILES UPGRADE - NORMAL
33 O - FREE
34 -------------------------------------------------------
35 .
36 -------------------------------------------------------
37 COACH CLASS CABIN
38 .
39 Y - FULL COACH
40 B - DISCOUNT COACH
41 M - DISCOUNT COACH
42 H - DISCOUNT COACH
43 Q - DISCOUNT COACH
44 K - DISCOUNT COACH
45 L - DISCOUNT COACH
46 U - DEEP DISCOUNTED COACH
47 T - DEEP DISCOUNTED COACH
48 NP - SKYMILES FREE - PLATINUM
49 NG - SKYMILES FREE - GOLD
50 NM - SKYMILES FREE - SILVER
51 N - SKYMILES FREE
52 E - FREE
53 S - CONSOLIDATOR
54 .
55 .
56 .
57 05DEC02/REVMGT/JCL
58 -------------------------------------------------------


User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 63556 times:

So I guess this confirms that P is gone? Additionally, I don't think they sell any first class seats even on their int'l codeshares which have 3 classes.


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User currently offlineAirScoot From United States of America, joined May 2005, 688 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 63512 times:

Quoting B4real (Reply 11):
Curiously, give me a route example for C.

Anything to Mexico/Central America and a few South America flights.
DL RESPONSE ** DIRECT CONNECT PARTICIPANT **
7DL 342 C3 D1 I1 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K9 ATLMGA 958A 1146A 73S L/ 0
L0 U0 T0

There are also instances where a flight number that originates in one of those markets but continues on past the gateway into the US will have C on the domestic portion.


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