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Irish Aviation Thread - Part II  
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12326 posts, RR: 35
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5251 times:

Good evening, bienvenue, wilkommen and (lest we forget) Failte!

Not an inappropriate start, because this whole privatisation business is starting to look like a cabaret, old chums ...

Right, enough musical references!

It looks like Mr. Mannion is finally starting to speak up about EI, calling for a decision to be made this month, leading to privatisation later this year. Helpfully, the Dear Leader has again affirmed his view that the airline should be privatised, so I think a decision will be made this month.

Here's the IT story:
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2006/0313/breaking63.htm

You'll see (and I hope you can access it, as the IT is one of those subscription sites) that DM also talks about the problems a delay in making a decision will cause for EI fleet plans : it won't help. Good on DM; it's not often that an EI CEO speaks out publicly (and I wish he would do so more often); it's important for the purposes of building confidence among potential investors that the airline's leadership is seen to have backbone and vision. I think both are there, but I would like to see a willingness to speak out more often.

Also expected this month is the EU vote on Open Skies and that obviously has significant consequences for EI; it's not the EU vote I'm worried about, but possible problems with the US Congress, which is making noises about being bypassed by the DOT (spurred on by CO and others).

Also interesting is the fact that two of the bluest of blue chip airlines are expected to make their decisions on new long haulers soon. SIA and Emirates will decide between the 787 and A350; Emirates' boss (and DM's former boss!) Tim Clark has strongly hinted that he prefers the 787; SIA is also known to prefer the 787, so there's another two the 350 has lost; even airlines like Asiana and Jet (A330 customers) seem to be rejecting the 350. I know people say that the 350 is all new, but I don't buy it; sure, it's remodelled and all that, but it's still a 330, albeit a vastly upgraded one.

I hardly need to say, after all that (and previous posts) which one I'd prefer to see EI buy, but whatever they do, I hope they have the freedom to buy what they want; I believe they will.

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User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5237 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
I know people say that the 350 is all new, but I don't buy it; sure, it's remodelled and all that, but it's still a 330, albeit a vastly upgraded one.

I dont see what all the fuss is about. EK are clearly waiting for the 787 10 to be made availible before deciding. SQ are ordering the 777/A340 class aswell as the 787/A350 so its hardly surprising to see them go boeing on a combo deal like this. The A350 is selling well considering how far off it is, approaching three years behind the 787, how many orders did the 787 have three yrs ago?

As for the EI and the above you seem to point out the l/h LCC idea and the 787s 9 abreast configs but the A350 is suitable in 9 abreast also (some A330 operators already use it. The cost in real terms of EI aquiring the A350 would be considerably less than the 787 IMO

This SIPTU situation is worrying to say the least.... me laptop battery is going flat, will post in the mornin.......

[Edited 2006-03-14 01:48:40]

User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5183 times:

Cork Union members meet today to discuss the possibility of industrial action and look likely to follow their dublin and shannon counterparts in voting for the ballot on a strike.

“Members are particularly concerned over the impact privatisation will have on security of employment and pension rights if it goes ahead,” said Siptu national industrial secretary Michael Halpenny.

He has also written to the assistant secretary responsible for aviation at the Department of Transport, John Murphy, enquiring about state investment in Aer Lingus under EU rules, and to Aer Lingus chief executive Dermot Mannion, seeking clarification on pensions, including indexation, job security and other outstanding industrial relations issues.


User currently offlineEirjet From Ireland, joined Jul 2005, 330 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5182 times:

[quote=EI321,reply=1]This SIPTU situation is worrying to say the least....quote]

I agree. SIPTU are making noises about industrial action, EI CEO (Mannion) claims it may not come to that.

But if we examine Union disputes in Ireland over the last few months - We had the very public Irish Ferries dispute, There is noise coming from taxi unions about regulating fares, the ESB is in hot water with the Unions over the treatment and pay for contract workers.

The SIPTU representatives in EI may see this as an opportunity, to round up support from other union representatives and turn this into a bigger political debate, it may not get the unions what they want, but it could cause major problems for EI management, and after all isn't that what unions are about!!!!!- as has already being mentioned we are nearing a general election - the unions may play the sympathy card, and argue that their disagreement with EI management is typical of the Government failing the workers of Ireland etc etc etc.......

In typical Irish Style, the privatisation debate hasn't even begun in my opinion... Unions + Govt + General Election = Shambles

Eirjet



Aviation has a 100% record, we've never left one up there......
User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5129 times:

Well after the last election debacle, the last thing bertie or cullen want to been percieved as is men who wont keep their promises. Theres still a good chance that a strike can be avoided (prob at the last minute), but at what cost to the company? One possible senario is the govt will back track and sell off a smaller share than originally intended, which wont be worth damn all. Who wants to buy shares in an airline which will effectivly remain in state control anyway?
The Cork staff will without a doubt vote to go to ballot on industrial action tonight.


User currently offlineKangar From Ireland, joined Feb 2000, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5106 times:

I see another rape of the Irish taxpayer in the offing......SIPTU make me sick, this is a ploy to gain prestige by standing up to the capitalist vultures and thereby undermine impact - they (SIPTU) do actually still see business in those terms. Similar to the time Mr Foley curiously got stitched up when he developed too good a working relationship with Impact.

User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6279 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5068 times:

I was just reading the news on aerlingus.com and I saw that they spelt "Aer Lingus" wrong!

"Air Lingus has announced the completion of an agreement with Airbus for the purchase of two long haul A330 aircrafts that will be used for new long haul routes in anticipation of bi-lateral changes. Dermot Mannion, Aer Lingus Chief Executive and Christopher Buckley, Airbus Executive Vice President Europe, CIS and Latin America signed the agreement at Dublin airport today."
.
Funny how many people on here correct others on how it's spelt and even Aer Lingus themselves spell it wrong.


User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5064 times:

Kaitak.

Missed your lauching this thread last night so I started my own part II but this is fine by me. Let keep this one alive as it is easier for me Big grin

There is one question about SIPTU which I have not gotten a good answer, and that is just what is this 300 Million Euro plus short fall in the retirement fund I keep on seeing mentioned. Just what is behind that and how did it get so large?


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12326 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5055 times:

Hi Poitin,

Pensions are extremely complicated and I won't even pretend to understand them fully. My understanding is that the pension fund is currently okay, but long term, it's likely to face a significant shortfall. I don't understand what the issues involved are, apart from the fact that it needs to be corrected! How that's going to be done, I don't know!

Two interesting bits of news today (or three, if you count the fact that some people who should know better - in EI itself - can't spell "Aer Lingus"!)

- The A330 deal has been done. Mannion is still saying a final decision hasn't been made on what aircraft will be selected for the long haul.

- More significantly (I think) is that in a reply to a PQ, the minister said that if the EU/US talks go sour, he will look into what can be done directly with the US to get the required access. This is something I've been hoping for, for some time. It is an important signal to potential investors as well. I'll post the PQ a little later.


User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5046 times:

Quoting EI321 (Reply 1):
As for the EI and the above you seem to point out the l/h LCC idea and the 787s 9 abreast configs but the A350 is suitable in 9 abreast also (some A330 operators already use it. The cost in real terms of EI aquiring the A350 would be considerably less than the 787 IMO

I have looked at several airlines (EI, AC, SWISS) and they all seem to do 8 seats wide. Could you give us a few examples of 9 seat abreast A330s? The reason why I ask is this was a hot issue on another thread a week or so ago.

I do agree that it would be cheaper in terms of training, sparing and such for EI to go with the A350, but not at the cost of operating efficiency over several years of service with high fuel costs only going higher.


User currently offlineEI787 From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1513 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5044 times:
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Confirmation from Airbus about the EI order:

Aer Lingus expands its Airbus long haul fleet with purchase of two A330's


User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5031 times:

Quoting EI787 (Reply 10):
Confirmation from Airbus about the EI order:

Thank you. One 330-200 and 330- 300 each. Wonder where they will be used?


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12326 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5022 times:

Well, SFO is said to be definite (and a 333X - the extended range version - could reach SFO easily from DUB. Other options mentioned were PHL - notwithstanding the US Airways service - and either MIA or DFW. I would expect EI to serve one of the latter two and AA, the other, with each codesharing on the other's flight. There has also been talk of two more A330s, but nothing clear yet.

As for which airlines operating 8 abreast Airbus A330s, I think only charter airlines have done so. It really isn't an appealing prospect; several airlines, including Monarch, have tried nine abreast on A300s, and again, fine for flights to Alicante or Palma; less fine if you're flying long haul. When returning through Bahrain on the way home on Saturday, there was a Monarch A300 there, BAH being its en route stop from Goa to the UK. Now there's a prospect: ten hours (at least!) on an A300 at nine abreast. Not nice.

The 777 is operated ten abreast by EK (and one or two others I think - possibly Air Austral or a Japanese carrier on domestic routes), but that's more pleasant. I've experienced EK 10 abreast and although it was some time ago, I don't recall it being too uncomfortable. HOWEVER, the 787 at nine abreast can accommodate wider seats than the 777 can at 10 abreast, so you have a considerable advantage there. The more I think of it, the more I think the 787 is the best option. EK is expected to launch the 787-10 at the end of this month, possibly next month; that aircraft, being of a similar length to the A350-900, will carry around 30-40 extra seats. Over the lifetime of the aircraft, that translates to significant extra revenue costs and if EI is serious about going down the long haul low cost route, the 787 really is the best option.

DM has said that the selection of A330s as the interim aircraft doesn't affect its choice of the long term fleet. It stands to reason in a way; they're paying around $190m; if they were part of an A350 deal, EI would have got them a lot cheaper, so desperate is Airbus to sell the type.

There are a few new deals in the pipeline for new aircraft and I can think of no airline which is leaning towards the 350. EK was, but Tim Clark (DM's former boss) is made no secret of his preference for the 787; Air Pacific of Fiji is leaning towards it; Jet Airways (an existing 330 customer), Asiana (also a 330 customer) and SIA, which is supposed to announce its order later this month, have all either indicated a preference for the 787 or ruled out the 350. Now, what does that tell you? I know what it tells me.


User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4983 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 8):
Pensions are extremely complicated and I won't even pretend to understand them fully. My understanding is that the pension fund is currently okay, but long term, it's likely to face a significant shortfall. I don't understand what the issues involved are, apart from the fact that it needs to be corrected! How that's going to be done, I don't know!

While this may be an extremely complicated issue, I somehow suspect it is THE ISSUE with SIPTU. While I know nothing about the political issues at EI beyond what I read in these threads, I can tell you I do know California political issues, in which public service employee unions have basically taken over control of the state. Retirement benefits are from the land of milk and honey. Totally bonkers. My next door neighbor is a retired fireman (after 10 years service) with 85% pay, plus benefits. And he has a new job as well, as guess what? A fireman.

IF this is what SIPTU has managed to get from the little people on Kildare Steet, then they will fight to the death for it, and with it the end of EI.


User currently offlineBx737 From Ireland, joined Sep 2001, 669 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4934 times:

Just have to say that as an EI employee who is a member of Impact I don't like SIPTUs stance on this issue. Balloting for industrial action serves no good purpose to anyone. Going the full length and actually going on strike will result in pax numbers falling and will result in the airline being worth less. This will have the effect of having less finance available for the pensions deficit and for fleet renewal. This will put EIs future in jeopardy. This serves SIPTUs members how....exactly?

I think SIPTU are using this as a bargaining tool in the current national round of pay deals. They are playing for high stakes. I also think that SIPTU are trying to ensure their members job security. However SIPTU think that strikes are the way to go. This I believe is wrong.

EI also has the difficulty of Bertie to deal with. Bertie seems to like SIPTU and seems to agree with most things they say. This is a problem. Aer Lingus needs to be sold off in order to secure the future. I hope the dinosaurs in SIPTU and the government wake up and smell the coffee and do what is in the interests of Aer Lingus.


User currently offlineBtriple7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1160 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 4908 times:

Quote:
"The longer between a definitive decision and the date of the transaction, the more there is a risk of other extraneous factors jumping up which might have an adverse effect on the transaction," he [Dermot Mannion] said.

SOURCE: http://www.unison.ie/business/storie...80176

It seems Mr. Mannion knows that EI must be privitized in order to avoid other problem that could occur.

Quote:
Asked if delays could affect any deals between Aer Lingus and either Boeing or Airbus on new planes, he [Dermot Mannion] added: "It could do. I can't be definitive on that at the moment because negotiations are still going with the manufacturers, but it would be unhelpful to that process, yes."

SOURCE: http://www.unison.ie/business/storie...80176

It seems Mr. Mannion is carefully considering both manufactures.  bigthumbsup   bigthumbsup   bigthumbsup  Mr. Mannion.


I glad EI has a very sensible CEO at its helm. Mr. Mannion seems like a good man for the job of taking EI through this difficult time.

Regards,
Btriple7



Just...fly.
User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4891 times:

Quoting Bx737 (Reply 14):


EI also has the difficulty of Bertie to deal with. Bertie seems to like SIPTU and seems to agree with most things they say. This is a problem. Aer Lingus needs to be sold off in order to secure the future. I hope the dinosaurs in SIPTU and the government wake up and smell the coffee and do what is in the interests of Aer Lingus.

For what good it will do, I will pray for your job. You understand. I wish you good luck and happiness.


User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4890 times:

Quoting Btriple7 (Reply 16):
I glad EI has a very sensible CEO at its helm. Mr. Mannion seems like a good man for the job of taking EI through this difficult time.

Kaitak seems to like him, but I think we need someone more forceful. However, maybe DM is up to the job. We shall see.


User currently offlineBtriple7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1160 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4885 times:

Quoting Poitin (Reply 18):
Kaitak seems to like him, but I think we need someone more forceful. However, maybe DM is up to the job. We shall see.

Dermot Mannion has plenty of experience. I think that is what sets him a part from other airline CEOs. Coming from EK, I think he knows what it takes to run an airline. You may be right about needing to more forceful (like Michael O'Leary for example). I just hope he gets EI in the right direction.

Regards,
Btriple7



Just...fly.
User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 60
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4881 times:

This summer there will be a weekly DUB-SSH flight. Can anyone shed any light on the airline and timings of this flight?

Horus



EGYPT: A 7,000 Year Old Civilisation
User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4873 times:

Quoting Btriple7 (Reply 19):
Dermot Mannion has plenty of experience. I think that is what sets him a part from other airline CEOs. Coming from EK, I think he knows what it takes to run an airline. You may be right about needing to more forceful (like Michael O'Leary for example). I just hope he gets EI in the right direction.

Amen, brother, amen. He is our only hope. Where is MO'L when you need him? And what does he know that we don't?


User currently offlineN272WA From Ireland, joined Jun 2007, 410 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4856 times:

Quoting Horus (Reply 20):
This summer there will be a weekly DUB-SSH flight. Can anyone shed any light on the airline and timings of this flight?

There is currently a weekly Dublin > Sharm El Sheikh flight, operated by Monarch. Not sure of day of operation though.... sorry :-/



Next: (EI)DUB-ORD-DUB, DUB-EWR-IAH-DFW-MSY-AUS-AMA-DEN-EWR-DUB
User currently offlineBx737 From Ireland, joined Sep 2001, 669 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4764 times:

Quoting Poitin (Reply 17):
For what good it will do, I will pray for your job. You understand. I wish you good luck and happiness.

Thanks for the vote of confidence and the prayers, we'll need them if Bertie decides he has to listen to SIPTU


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6279 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4759 times:

I was just looking at the Aer Lingus website and just saw a link on the USA site saying "Flight School, Earn your wings" I clicked on it and it was a template for your own EI paper aeroplane. A nice touch from EI  Smile

25 Post contains links and images Btriple7 : Okay I have another load of new articles: http://www.centreforaviation.com/avi..._fleet_with_purchase_of_two_A330s/ http://atwonline.com/news/story.ht
26 Post contains images Poitin : I never said that you said anything, my man. However, just IMAGINE if SPITU woke up one morning and found MO'L as CEO of EI. Okay, now back that off
27 Horus : Thanks N272WA. AFAIK MON2787/2786 operates every Thursday with a B752. Can anyone find out the summer DUB-SSH timetable? Horus
28 Post contains images Shamrock350 : Before Willie Walsh left EI there were many rumors that EI were about to leave the Oneworld alliance but now that DM has been at EI for a good few mon
29 Kaitak : I'm not absolutely sure where things stand with Oneworld; as far as I'm aware, they are still in there. I personally think they are much better being
30 Post contains images Shamrock350 : Aer Lingus used to win awards for their service and seats but other airlines realized that we are in the 21st Century and they just put EI to shame.
31 Post contains links and images Btriple7 : Very true. My family told about EI and how they offered warm washcloths to clean your hands and face back when they were a leading airline for sevice
32 Sllevin : It is sad...even up to 2002/2003 EI still had great J service that made suffering with the lousy seats worthwhile. Now that's not even the case. If t
33 Post contains links Btriple7 : Another article: http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=176234544&p=y76z35z5x " target=_blank>http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/stor...35z5x This i
34 Poitin : VERY bad news indeed. Should we be planning the wake?
35 EI321 : Wait and see how this pans out....I am quite confident that a strike will be avoided. The others unions are not opposed to the IPO (so it wont be sold
36 Shamrock350 : That's nice to hear. Such low fares and the chance to fly on an A330!
37 Post contains links EI321 : More News B/E aerospace are exanding their operationS. The company makes seats and cabin componants for airlines like Southwest and BA. http://www.nyt
38 Poitin : Given that they already have 14.9% from the first round of "privatization" giving them more will only make EI less and less attractive as an IPO. It'
39 Post contains images Shamrock350 : It looks like EI must really be hurting BD on the LHR-DUB route. BD are down on passengers numbers -5%. It's either low EI fares or BD must have a rea
40 Post contains links Kaitak : BD is going to hell in a handbasket; I don't know exactly what's been happening to them (although I suspect that London-based business pax are upset t
41 Shamrock350 : I thought the same thing reading the other thread but one question was can Airbus convert the aircraft slots. The A340s were going to be delivered ne
42 EIRules : I wouldnt be at all surprised if when the new A330s arrive EI dont launch any new routes for a couple of months and use the new aircraft to slot in w
43 Poitin : Hopefully at at good price. EI needs several more A330s and soon.
44 Poitin : They could, if they are on the same production lines. However, that is a good question.
45 Kaitak : They are on the same production line, but the question is, how much of a lead-in do they need to change the production from one type to another. I wou
46 Sllevin : Has anyone at EI actually talked about installing PTV's fleetwide? I'd be concerned about the weight penalty on the 332's, which are not the highest g
47 Eirjet : Most of EI awards are from times when government owned companies spent, spent and spent some more. At one stage the Minister for Transport was fondly
48 EI321 : True, EI went for the low thrust option on their A330s. An IFE system would be a bigger problem for the A333s. Presonally I dont think the current 33
49 Kaitak : True, Lufthansa and IB don't have them, but most airlines out of the UK do and you have to look at what the competition is doing. It's far easier for
50 Poitin : I think you have said it all.
51 Eirjet : Quick question for the Irish A.netters. Is there an Irish Aviation Museum in Ireland - I don't believe there is one. Like me, do you think it is about
52 Babybus : There should be one but you would have to site it at one of the major Irish airports. You don't want static aircraft blotting the lovely Irish landsc
53 BestWestern : Shannon.
54 Eirjet : Well, its safe to say that DUB is out of the question, as free land is scare if non-existant. My thought was Shannon.
55 Post contains images Shamrock350 : The aerlingus.com is finally gone from adverts here in London! I was getting sick of seeing aerlingus.com all over the place now the shamrock is back.
56 BestWestern : Anyone here from Shannon - what's it like down there these days?
57 Post contains links Poitin : Ah, lads, you surprise me! Have you never heard of The Flying Boat Museum in Foynes? Perhaps all you forget that back before even me own time (sorta)
58 Post contains images Poitin : Haven't been there for a few months, but fairly foggy most mornings. I fly through Shannon by choice, being I have a house in Co Kerry. While there a
59 Poitin : Okay, I'll bite, just why do you say this? I know you have a number of insights that most of the rest of the EI fan club doesn't have, and I personal
60 Post contains images Sllevin : The only thing Foynes lacks is, well, a Flying Boat That said, if you're in the area, it's well worth stopping by, although it's a small facility. I
61 Poitin : That is the truth. Not really much of a museum, with some bent pieces of metal, but the place is a museum You can easily miss it. I think they are cl
62 Bx737 : In Dromod, Co Leitrim as part of the Cavan-Leitrim Railway museum where they have a working railway using both steam and diesel engines, they gave a
63 Kaitak : In response to your question on the 787, the adding of more takeoff weight to the 350 isn't going to make a huge difference to carriers like EI (and m
64 Post contains links Kaitak : Well, the IT has an interesting story on this, please see link below (you may need a subscription to open this): http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/fin.
65 BestWestern : How Irish is that! Great to see the unions divided as ever. At least impact is looking forward. SIPTU are a joke.
66 Eirjet : Hi Kaitak, did you or any other irish a.netters see primetime! one comment that was made - cant remember by who - was that if the govt held 25% owner
67 Eirjet : I'm wondering if there are enough Irish based members here who match the above description and would be interested in getting the ball rolling for an
68 Pelican22 : Count me in Eirjet, I would not mind giving a hand If I can.
69 MarBergi : What ever happened to that by the way? When I was younger I remember visiting it when it was out beside Waterford airport and being able to sit in th
70 Eirjet : Cheers Pelican22, I have decided to look into this alittle more. Will let you know how I'm getting on. PS. Anyone else with any tips or info, please
71 Post contains links EI321 : There is an aviation section in the Ulster Transport Museum in Hollywood, Co Down. It includes a full mockup of the Shorts VTOL concept fighter, the w
72 Eirjet : Hi EI321, Thanks for the above. I should have known that someone else would already be looking into this. The article seems to show that Ossie Kilkenn
73 BestWestern : I was there at the weekend. Very poor aviation section in comparison to the excellent Rail, Road and Maratime sections. Considering Ulsters strong av
74 Poitin : Fairly obvious, once pointed out. Thank you.
75 N272WA : Alrighty Eirjet, look forward to your findings! Let me know if you need a hand with anything. Cheers, M
76 Eirjet : Hi Mike, Cheers for the post. When I get a chance I will sit down and realistically see what is required and let you know Cheers Eirjet
77 Post contains images Poitin : You have my support, although I am 5,000 miles away! I think I can answer that as I already raised the issue. Presently 14.9% of EI shares are held b
78 Eirjet : So your across the pond????? Yes, that was mentioned. The reportor on PrimeTime really pushed Mannion, I had never heard the man talk before, but I t
79 Post contains images Kaitak : It's a very difficult balancing act for any executive. MO'L goes way too far some (most?) of the time, but when you see SIPTU and the way it sabre rat
80 Poitin : Mostly, I am in California looking after my business interests. I have a house down near Cahirciveen, Co Kerry. I plan on retiring to Ireland soon en
81 EI321 : I missed it last night, didnt even know it was on. The staff own 14.9% of the company. The govt are proposing retaining 25% but the staff can sell th
82 Eirjet : Here, Here. I liked Willie Walsh when he was around, but I think Mannion is the best man to bring EI through the privatisation battle. The Primetime
83 Poitin : I would have to see the IPO terms, but it is not uncommon for them to prevent the pre-IPO holders from selling for 6 months. In any case, with the po
84 EI321 : To give an idea of the cabin width of the A350, the 3x3x3 config would be slightly more comfortable than a 10 abreast 777. B777/10 abreast-17.0" seat
85 Post contains links Kaitak : It's strange then, that apart from a few charter airlines, no one seems to be interested in the Airbus at 9 abreast, whereas many 787 customers are go
86 Post contains links Poitin : This is a side issue, but EI website was a topic of much discussiton. I just went to http://www.delta.com/home/index.jsp And found DL is selling Irela
87 Post contains images Shamrock350 : I have feeling it will change very soon. The aerlingus.com logo has gone from all the adverts and is now replaced by just aerlingus.com in small font
88 Poitin : Thank GOD! about time they got rid of the silly meat ball.
89 Post contains images Shamrock350 : The adverts look so much better without the huge red DOT. The Aer Lingus logo has been missing from adverts for about three years now and I'm very hap
90 Sllevin : Don't know when in October they close, but it was early October when I was there; as we typically are in that timeframe, depending upon when Jewish H
91 Bx737 : The South East Aviation museum was closed and they were ordered to move their exhibits by Waterford Airport who wanted the land. This left them in a
92 Post contains images Poitin : I have a ten-year-old Michelin guide to Ireland, and it says "Open end March to October, 1000 to 1800." I would look in a newer guide book if I had o
93 EI321 : Did anyone see the rte programme on EIs introduction of the 741 in 1971? Its amazinf that the then general manager of EI mentioned the big dissadvanta
94 Bx737 : Thought that myself when I saw it, but thought must be seeing things. Have to say it was a good programme that was interesting. Thought it was funny
95 Poitin : Nasty that! However that is the WORST thing the government could do if buying EI stock has a three year massive capital gains charge. Damn fools, don
96 EI321 : Do you mean the 20% rate? There is a capital gains tax exemption on the first Eur1270 per year which if applicable would leave many staff unliable on
97 Philb : Someone commented that Shannon isn't like it was in the old days. Dead right. No props and the exotics visiting in the dead of night!! But the through
98 Poitin : In another thread, I noted that we use to have Dinosaurs to eat these sorts of people but the Dinosaurs formed a union and went extinct. I wonder if
99 EI321 : The firms to oversee the costing & design of T2 @ DUB were announced today.
100 Eirjet : Did anyone see the front of the Irish times with the Ryanair advert. "NOBODY BEATS RYANAIRS PRICES OR OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE" It then quotes a number of
101 Post contains links EI321 : Aer Arran are to start new route - Cork to Cardiff. http://www.rte.ie/business/2006/0323/aerarann.html
102 Kaitak : Prompt replies to customer complaints? Yeah, something like this: "what part of "sod off" do you not understand? That's the difference between EI and
103 Shamrock350 : This was/is being operated by Air Wales. It's shame they have to leave Cork.
104 Bx737 : Bearing in mind that I am no tax expert (in college it was one subject that bored me to death, mind you I always came to in time to hear "see you nex
105 EI321 : The 20% I am refering to is the capital gains rate (and also the lower PAYE rate). You are right about the three year period, but I think that a lot o
106 Bx737 : That could be true, mind you the bulk of shares are held by staff with long service, that is 10 or more years.
107 Poitin : From today's SBPOST.IE. Brokers to meet Revenue on stamp duty 24/03/2006 - 2:46:33 PM Stockbrokers are concerned that a recent decision by the Revenue
108 Post contains links and images Shamrocka330 : The photo below shows a freshly painted A330 (EI-DUB) without the aerlingus.com logo beside the front cargo door. I, like many others, was delighted
109 Post contains images Shamrock350 : I thought it was gone for good! I was looking forward to seeing A320s without the logo. EI-DUB does looks amazing! hope the rest of the hard working
110 Poitin : Well, sounds like MO'L has met his match in Dublin with SIPTU -- right! This should be an interesting Donnybrook. From SBPOST.ie Talks to continue in
111 Kangar : It looks like the media types will wade in on Siptu's side on this one, earlier this week, I was treated to a nice misty eyed - divorced from reality
112 Poitin : Obviouly, EI is in deep trouble if this is what is going on.
113 Post contains links and images Btriple7 : Hello everyone! Sorry I haven't posted here in a while. I've been rather busy with exams. Anyway, here are some new articles: http://breakingnews.iol.
114 Post contains links and images Btriple7 : Another article on the EI-EK codeshare: http://www.noticias.info/asp/aspComunicados.asp?nid=160552&src=0 " target=_blank>http://www.noticias.info/asp/
115 Shamrock350 : It's so good to see such great airlines working together! 21 destinations in the Southern Hemisphere is alot, any idea of what the routes are that the
116 Poitin : Sounds like you've been reading my posts, lad. Welcome to the club! It is of interest that FR announced a number of new routes for SNN today. Maybe I
117 Post contains links and images Btriple7 : Here's an article from FR's website: http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news....r=06&month=mar&story=rte-en-290306 " target=_blank>http://www.ryanair.com
118 Post contains images Poitin : If SNN management had any brains, they would promote the #$#$ out of their airport as a minihub using the routes FR, RE, and EI have from there to th
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