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When's The Next B738 For Garuda?  
User currently offlineGIA From Indonesia, joined Oct 2003, 71 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3431 times:

Just wondering when the next B738 to arrive for Garuda? Will it be an all economy class B738 like PK-GEE? I like the painted winglets.

Any other delivery, product upgrade for Garuda in the near future?

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User currently offlineStudentFlyer From Australia, joined Sep 2004, 688 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3426 times:

Quoting GIA (Thread starter):
Any other delivery, product upgrade for Garuda in the near future?

Well, I was just in the other thread before, and was asking the same thing, as I've heard something about GA ordering 10 firm 787-8 and another 10 as an option. It is still unclear whether these aircraft be leased, or fully owned.

I don't know the situation financially with GA at the moment to go and finalise the order though, I think HB-IWC or Mandala499 or someone else out there could explain this better  Wink

User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 2083 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3359 times:

PK-GEF (the second B738 of GA) was delivered 10 mar 2006.

User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 3049 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3345 times:

Quoting Viasa (Reply 2):

Where did this airframe come from?

User currently offlineGIA From Indonesia, joined Oct 2003, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3305 times:

I think PK-GEE was from Turkey.
Just curious why they don't start the rego with PK-GEA?

I assume PK-GEF was from Turkey as well?

User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 7561 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3271 times:

As Viasa said, GEF left for SE Asia 10th March... but... if the info I received today was correct, arrived this afternoon in Jakarta as GA9711. Arrived at 1940LT (UTC+7) today. Source was GA's website on "Departures and Arrivals". I didn't see it myself though... Possibly after going through winglet fittings in KUL again???

Both GEE and GEF are from Inter Airlines Turkey (via Boullion Aviation I think).

Rumours has it that it'll be used to go to PER... But both 738s are due for a cabin refit soon...

The order for the new 738s and 787s are confirmed AFAIK (and lease AFAIK)... however, the current financial situation ain't good... they're still mopping up the mess left behind by the previous management. It came to a crunch earlier this year but the situation has been alleviated by some cash injection from the govt. reported to be sent to GA sometime this month.

Why start with GEE? Maybe the factory fresh ones will start at GEA... and by then GEE and GEF would have finished the leases.


[Edited 2006-03-16 15:22:10]

When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 7561 posts, RR: 76
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3199 times:

For those interested... the aircraft was flown to Subang, Malaysia for winglet fitting, apparently it was still in Kran.NL (operated by Inter Airlines) colours but already registered PK-GEF on delivery...

You can find the trip report of the delivery flight Here but it's in Indonesian only though it has some pics...


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User currently offlineStudentFlyer From Australia, joined Sep 2004, 688 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3163 times:

For those interested in the article posted by Mandala499, I have translated the article as follows: (pardon my english translation)

Thursday, March 16, 2006.

At 11:00am sharp, the Boeing 737-400 registered as PK-GWN which was about to take me to Kuala Lumpur, took off from Soekarno-Hatta Airport, Jakarta. It took off uneventfully from Rwy 25R and climbed to its cruising altitude of 32,000 ft. I sat on seat number 4F, right next to Capt. Kiki Martono.

After the seat-belt sign was switched off, I moved to seat 3E, so that I could enjoy the view offered outside the window. Fortunately the Garuda business class wasn’t full, with 6 out of the 16 seats occupied. Not long after that, the stewardesses started serving lunch. I chose beef steak, salad, potatoes, and as desert, a vanilla Haagen-Dazs ice cream.

The rest of the flight was uneventful, with the compliment of good weather. I chose to sit at the cockpit of the aircraft as it was about to land. Landing was to be carried out on Rwy 32R, since Rwy 32L was closed for maintenance. The plane was guided to land by F/O Ade Dwipayana exactly at 1:30pm local time, in which it continued to taxi to the apron to disembark the passengers.

The Captain and I chose to disembark at the end, and outside, we were greeted by Garuda ground staff. We then cleared immigration and customs. We were brought to the Garuda office at the airport to collect our flight plan and a sort out some final preparations before heading off to Subang Airport by car.

On the way to Subang Airport, we stopped at “Sate Kajang” restaurant, which tasted outstanding. We also took some “Sate” for snack for the flight to Jakarta. After lunch, we continued our trip, which took around 1 hour all up from Sepang Airport to Subang Airport. Just for the information, Subang was the International Airport in KL before Sepang was commissioned. Its fate is similar to Halim-Perdanakusuma Airport in Jakarta, which only serves several flights each day.

After arriving at Subang Airport around 4:00 pm local time, we headed straight to a hangar owned by MAS. In it, maintenance was under way for 1 plain-coloured Boeing 737, and another plane, a Boeing 747-400.

Outside that hangar was the first time I saw PK-GEF. My first reaction was: shock! It still bore the livery of Inter Airlines Turkey, full of green primer on its body. The old paint peeled everywhere, and some markings covered with white paint.

After climbing the stairs to board the aircraft, I walked around the cabin and the cockpit. My first impression was that this plane is still in top-notch condition, even though the headrests still bore the Inter Airlines covers.

The cockpit is still neat and tidy, even though it had to stay in Subang for several days after it was ferried from Istanbul by Capt. Triyanto and Capt. Kiki Martono on March 10. The layout of the cockpit is exactly the same to PK-GEE, the previous aircraft, which means that I didn’t have to encounter any difficulty to fly it for the first time.

After completing several tasks such as administration and immigration, at exactly 7:00 pm local time, PK-GEF took off from Subang Airport on its flight to Jakarta. I flew the aircraft, and with the take-off weight of 50t and 26.4K engine rating, it was quite a task to control the aircraft, because V1 was reached in such a short time. This was made even worse by the unfriendly skies that night, with heavy showers and CB clouds everywhere.

The aircraft then climbed to 41,000ft, and headed towards Pekanbaru. After reaching 5,000 ft, the weather started to clear off, and above 10,000ft, it was very clear. Fortunately the sun hasn’t completely set, so I could see the clear skies.

After reaching cruising altitude of 41,000ft, we did some testing to check the condition of the aircraft. According to the Exercise syllabus which was about to be carried out, was manual reversion, engine shutdown, stall and to try and exceed Vmo. Luckily I was the pilot flying, and all tests were completed, except stall and engine shutdown, due to several considerations. Manual reversion was done (thank God I exercise regularly), and as well as that, we did engine idle one by one, unusual recovery, and exceeding Vmo.

There’s only one impression I got, exciting! For the first time, I was able to do all exercises on the real thing instead of simulators.

The rest of the flight was filled by noting engine performances and observing the aircraft’s characteristics.

Finally, the aircraft landed safely at Soekarno-Hatta Airport, Jakarta, at 7:45pm local time, on Rwy 25R. Consequently the aircraft was taxied to parking stand R58 to be finally taken to GMF hangar. The aircraft will then be painted in full Garuda colours, overall maintenance check on the engines and airframe, re-calibrate its weight, and according to the schedule, this aircraft will serve on the Denpasar and Perth routes on March 25.

User currently offlineGIA From Indonesia, joined Oct 2003, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3103 times:

Hey guys, sorry this is out of topic but still relates to Garuda,

In the early January 2006, a Garuda A330 aircraft scheduled to depart from DPS to BNE via SYD was delayed for over 12 hours. The SYDKK has told me that there's a communication problem with the aircraft. However, after some time I found from another source, the reason the aircraft got delayed is because there's a submarine not far from the airport, so for those aircraft who parked at gate 1,2or 3 (backing the sea) at DPS airport sometimes they have trouble starting the engines. Is that true? can submarine have an effect on aircraft?

I remember 1 trip 2 years ago with Garuda A330, we were parking at that gate area, half way as we pushed back, the aircraft power is off(aircon, lights) for about two minutes. I went back on again, but after a couple of minute it went off again. Beacause I was sitting at the front at that time, I can see they brought up a machine in a trailer to the front right hand side of the aircraft, eventually after 10 minute they got it all sorted out.

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