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Tupolev Brand Symbol: What Does It Tell Us?  
User currently offlineOwlEye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 961 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3561 times:

The brand symbol (logo) of Tupolev is here depicted on the nose of Tupolev's 334. What does it tell us? What text is it exactly? Is it cyrillic 'Ty' for 'Tu' or is it something else?


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User currently offlineRedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 2301 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3520 times:

Quoting OwlEye (Thread starter):
Is it cyrillic 'Ty' for 'Tu' or is it something else?

Correct, it's "Tu."



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User currently offlineTransAmerican From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3398 times:

This may well sound like a pretty stupid question, but I just wanted to clarify something in my own mind. On television, and in person, I have heard "Tupolev" pronounced in various ways, and I just wanted to confirm the correct pronunciation for it. Of the most common forms that I have heard, is it:

a) "tew-po-lev"
b) "tup-o-lev"
c) "tew-po-lov"
d) "too-po-lov"

or none of the above. Yes, rather an odd enquiry, but it's one of those things that's been sitting at the back of my mind for years now, and I think it's probably a good idea to get it sorted once and for all in my brain before it slowly drives me insane.

Thanks in advance.



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User currently offlineSovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2616 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3261 times:
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It's actually

tuu-po-lev


User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2907 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3129 times:

Quoting Sovietjet (Reply 3):
It's actually

tuu-po-lev

Shouldn't it be "Tuu-po-lyev"? As the "e" sign is pronounced as "ye" in Russian.



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User currently offlineDelyan From Bulgaria, joined Jun 2005, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3048 times:

T=T (in Latin and Cyrilic)
Y=U (Y in Cyrilic is U in Latin)


User currently offlineChicagoFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2914 times:

Here are my  twocents 

First of all, the "T" on the nose is a little unusual with the three stems. If you write Cyrillic in cursive, it is written this way, but to me (and granted I have not seen many logos of Russian companies) it is unusual on a logo, I would have expected a regular "T" not a "ITI" version. Not that anyone who reads Russian would be confused.

Second as far as "e" vs "ye" goes, we are getting into the limits of transliterating cyrillic with Latin letters  sigh . The standalone Russian "e" is indeed pronouced "ye". But when following a consonant, it is pronounced "e", but the consonant itself changes its own sound, thus becoming "softer", a l' vs l sound so to speak. But "lev" does not become "lyev"!

so if I were to tranliterate "Tupolev" in Latin letters it would be

TOO-po-lev

and if you really want to to sound Russian, soften the "l" sound.


User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2907 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2881 times:

Quoting ChicagoFlyer (Reply 6):
Second as far as "e" vs "ye" goes, we are getting into the limits of transliterating cyrillic with Latin letters . The standalone Russian "e" is indeed pronouced "ye". But when following a consonant, it is pronounced "e", but the consonant itself changes its own sound, thus becoming "softer", a l' vs l sound so to speak. But "lev" does not become "lyev"!

OK, makes sense! So just "add" a soft sign (merkiy znak).



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User currently offlineTu204 From Russia, joined Mar 2006, 1249 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2822 times:

Too-po-lyev  Smile (frequently pronounced as "Too-pa-lyev" since the "o" and "a" sounds are similar, for ex. "cow" is written "korova" but pronounced "karova", "Moskva" (Moscow) but pronounced "Maskva") Russian is a complicated language  Wink
The brand symbol is not that bad - it has been around since the the 1950's, but back then it was red, now it is blueish letters on white backround or "negative" (white letters on bluish backround)
In any case, I think it beats the Sukhoi brand symbol www.sukhoi.org/eng
MiG's isn't that bad though...couldn't find a better pic of it - quite small, top left corner www.migavia.ru/eng
Illyushin does not have a real logo.
I vote for MiG as having the best logo  Wink



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User currently offlineOwlEye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 961 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2796 times:

Tu204, I disagree about your comment that Ilyushin doesn't have a logo:

http://www.ilyushin.org/


User currently offlineTu204 From Russia, joined Mar 2006, 1249 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2649 times:

Quoting OwlEye (Reply 9):
Tu204, I disagree about your comment that Ilyushin doesn't have a logo:

My bad  ashamed  Thats not a bad logo either (to me it resembles MiG's). The reason that I thought they did not have one is because they do not paint it on their hangar and I have not seen even one of their planes with their logo.



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