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Randy Baseler Takes A Quote From A.net  
User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7417 times:

Many people on the A.net quotes Baseler, Leahy, etc....this time however, not only does Boeing's Baseler mention A.net, he actually takes a quote from it.......yes, we know that there is a chance that Baseler has bevy of people doing his media work for him..but regardless......

we're making some sort of difference people... bigthumbsup ...


Fair use excerpt...

"Now, in one key way, I think this all accomplished something interesting. It got a robust discussion going. Airliners.net has had quite a few posts on the subject.

And some of the people posting to that site caught on to another key point I was trying to make: that schedule reliability can be a much higher decision factor from a passenger point of view than a minor difference in cabin width.

One participant in the Airliners forum, after flying an A319 and then getting on a 737, conceded there may be a slight difference in width, but concurred with the fact that the A320 family has more technical delays:

"Our A319 flight was delayed over 1/2hr when we had to shut down the engines and reset the computers because of what the pilot called "a slight computer glitch." Our 733 left right on time. Ok, sure, that's just one time, but in my 100,000 miles a year of flying over the past 2 1/2 years, I've only had one delay on a 737 aircraft based on mechanical problems, and that was a microphone in the pilots emergency oxygen mask was not working properly. It was fixed within 20 minutes. They're a very reliable aircraft.""


rest of the article/info at...

http://www.boeing.com/randy/


By the way, does anyone know who's quote was taken??


"Up the Irons!"
78 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineEatmybologna From France, joined Apr 2005, 412 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7391 times:

This makes me wonder if Randy, or even Leahy for that matter, are actual members on Anet. Why not? Anet is a good source of feedback.

Regards,

e-m-b



Isn't knowledge more than just the acquisition of information? Shouldn't the acquired information be correct?
User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7385 times:

Quoting Eatmybologna (Reply 1):
This makes me wonder if Randy, or even Leahy for that matter, are actual members on Anet. Why not? Anet is a good source of feedback.

lol..I still think it would be a scary tought.....but I hope A.netters are making a difference.... Smile



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineNirvarma From New Zealand, joined May 2005, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7366 times:

I remember reading it and I believe it was Fanoftristars'

User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9112 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7266 times:

Quoting Eatmybologna (Reply 1):
This makes me wonder if Randy, or even Leahy for that matter, are actual members on Anet. Why not? Anet is a good source of feedback.

I think a lot of what they write is prepared for them by assistants, I am sure some of them read internet forums. I personally think his blog is written and maintained by the Boeing PR machine, politicians do the same.

I know our airline and others have people reading this forum and others for posts which have legal implications for the airline, anything from copyright, breech of privacy, deformation, bringing the airline name into disrepute. I don't see why no other large business would not do the same.



We are addicted to our thoughts. We cannot change anything if we cannot change our thinking – Santosh Kalwar
User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7217 times:

Quoting Zeke (Reply 4):
I know our airline and others have people reading this forum and others for posts which have legal implications for the airline, anything from copyright, breech of privacy, deformation, bringing the airline name into disrepute. I don't see why no other large business would not do the same.

what airlines do you work for Zeke?



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineIFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7189 times:

Quoting Zeke (Reply 4):
deformation, bringing the airline name into disrepute

That's laughable. It's an Internet forum. What could UA do, for example, if they read that I think they're the worst airline allowed to operate, and I pay extra to avoid flying them if I can? Nothing; it's an Internet forum.


User currently offlineMotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3212 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7160 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 5):
breech of privacy, deformation, bringing the airline name into disrepute.

I think that could have been defamation that you were really looking for.

Regards
MH



come visit the south pacific
User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7116 times:

Quoting MotorHussy (Reply 7):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 5):
breech of privacy, deformation, bringing the airline name into disrepute.

I think that could have been defamation that you were really looking for.

ummmm...I didn't say that......you got the wrong quote..... Wink



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7110 times:

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 6):
That's laughable. It's an Internet forum. What could UA do, for example, if they read that I think they're the worst airline allowed to operate, and I pay extra to avoid flying them if I can? Nothing; it's an Internet forum.

You're correct, but if you start posting that UA hires uncertified mechanics and falsifies paperwork to cover it, you'd be pushing dangerously close to libel. To be honest though, I think you'd have to be pretty aggressive with that type of stuff before they paid any notice. The more serious issue is release of confidential information. I've seen lots of stuff posted on here that would make Corp Security blue in the face, from load figures to pax info.



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User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9112 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7074 times:

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 6):
What could UA do, for example, if they read that I think they're the worst airline allowed to operate, and I pay extra to avoid flying them if I can?

Customers can say what they like within reason, employees not so. Most employment contracts have clauses to cover this.



We are addicted to our thoughts. We cannot change anything if we cannot change our thinking – Santosh Kalwar
User currently offlineGlacote From France, joined Jun 2005, 409 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 6949 times:

You don't back up statistics with a few examples - let alone from Internet forae.

Randy's team used to spin better...


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6888 times:

Sorry, but whatever respect I may have had for Mr. Baseler just went out the window.

I'm aware that this blog is supposed to look as if it was his personal opinion and not simply PR work for Boeing (and I shudder at the thought that some might actually think it's anything beyond PR), but this is even more ridiculous than the original remarks were; and trying to prove his myth that A320s are much less reliable than B737s with that? Please...

Seems Randy was upset that Leahy had him beat with moronic statements for quite a while now, because he's doing more than his best to catch up.

I really think Boeing should rethink this blog - because they're really making themselves look like fools.

Regards,
Frank



Smile - it confuses people!
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21534 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6861 times:

Quoting Leskova (Reply 12):
Sorry, but whatever respect I may have had for Mr. Baseler just went out the window.

Yeah, that was pretty lame.

Just like the whole "composite" claims by airbus, claiming the older technology is superior until, of course, you use it yourself.



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6843 times:

Quoting Leskova (Reply 12):
Seems Randy was upset that Leahy had him beat with moronic statements for quite a while now, because he's doing more than his best to catch up.

there is a BIG difference between Leahy and Baseler however..... Leahy is Airbus' ace salesman....if he starts yapping off to air carriers about Airbus planes, and they don't come true as his claims are (ie.-not living up to its promises-aka the A340's and the "fuel rebates"), then it reflects big time on Airbus' credibility, where as when Baseler yaps off, it really doesn't make as much of a difference....yes he's vice-president of marketing, but he's not Boeing's top salesman.....big difference.....



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6794 times:

Oh c'mon guys, I remember that discussion!!

Jeez, I'm really excited that there could be the chance that industry people are actually reading our posts!!!

Lets all be happy about that!!


User currently offlineHBDAN From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 661 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6794 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 15):
Jeez, I'm really excited that there could be the chance that industry people are actually reading our posts!!!

Lets all be happy about that!!

Greeting to all A.netters and above all to all the A.net staff, you guys are doing a great job!

Regards,
HBDAN



Next flight: hopefully soon...
User currently offlineUA772IAD From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 1730 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6768 times:

I agree that is sort of lame, and a low blow. But that's business, that's competition, and Airbus certainly isn't innocent either. I can't remember the incident specifically, but I do remember reading about how Airbus totally went overboard at the Farnborough Air Show, around the time of the 777 debut. I remember hearing about how they drove investors and potential customers crazy- by basically flaming Boeing and repeating an Airbus motto (maybe it was the 4 is better than 2, for the A340?) Indirectly, I'm sure that event made the 777 the favorite, that year.
Needless to say, BOTH companies are guilty of taking low blows.

Althought it is cool to see that we are actually acknowledged (in the industry)! Congrads to everyone for that accomplishment. Let's hope he's not sharing that is true statistical data with the development team

[Edited 2006-03-15 08:49:09]

User currently offlineKangar From Ireland, joined Feb 2000, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6745 times:

I'm pretty worrried if Randy's needs to look to Airliners.net to find arguments for the 737 vs. the A320. I also find it hard to believe he's quoting anecdotal information from one person's experience to back up his argument instead of giving hard numbers.

User currently offlineAstuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 10070 posts, RR: 97
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6704 times:
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Quoting Jacobin777 (Thread starter):
And some of the people posting to that site caught on to another key point I was trying to make: that schedule reliability can be a much higher decision factor from a passenger point of view than a minor difference in cabin width.

He said that?!!!
Wow - how to blow one of your supposed key 787 selling points in one easy sentence. Sort of puts to bed the endless discussions we've had on A-net.
Mixed messages from Boeing? That comment has to disappoint some A-netters.
Funnily enough, I'm inclined to agree with him.

As for A32x vs 737 reliability - there's more that enough of these flying around for there to be real HARD data regarding dispatch rates etc.
I don't see pulling one anecdotal quote from one A-netter as the best way of demonstrating it.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 14):
there is a BIG difference between Leahy and Baseler however..... Leahy is Airbus' ace salesman



Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 14):
yes he's vice-president of marketing, but he's not Boeing's top salesman.....big difference.....

I'm curious Jacobin. Baseler is THE most quoted Boeing representative on A-net. When he is quoted, his quotes are given the utmost importance by those that quote him.
He's usually the one sparring with Leahy, so irrespective of his ttle or whatever, I'd consider him to be of equal importance.

His blogs are never "just blogs" when he says what the Anti-Airbus brigade want to hear......


User currently offlineTifoso From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6677 times:

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 19):
Wow - how to blow one of your supposed key 787 selling points in one easy sentence. Sort of puts to bed the endless discussions we've had on A-net.

Don't get too excited. Look at this statement in the beginning of his post:

Quoting Randy Baseler]
And that on short-range flights, most people are more concerned about their fare and schedule.
[/QUOTE]



[quote=Astuteman
(Reply 19):
As for A32x vs 737 reliability - there's more that enough of these flying around for there to be real HARD data regarding dispatch rates etc.
I don't see pulling one anecdotal quote from one A-netter as the best way of demonstrating it.

It is not about showing who is better based on statistics, but trying to pull a customer's perspective on the issue. Numbers are not as "cool" as personal experiences.

FanOfTriStars, congratulations on getting quoted. Did they contact you before including your post on the Boeing blog? :thumbup:


User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6602 times:

You'd think all members would be gratified by the "homage" to a.net from a bonafide industry insider and celebrity.

I find it ironic and amusing that members of this forum who spend considerable time and effort trying to prove their erudition and insight on any number of subjects in these threads, are quick to dismiss what's going here as unimportant, irrelevant, and not worthy of comment elsewhere in order to reinforce their own biases when necessary.


User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4005 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 6515 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Thread starter):
that schedule reliability can be a much higher decision factor from a passenger point of view than a minor difference in cabin width.

Apart from the fact that there is quite a difference between empirical reasearch and the experience of one a.net-member, does not cabin width directly has to do with the manufacturer and his design concept, while "schedule reliability" has much more to do with operations of and maintenance by the airlines, engines that could just as well be bolted under the competitor's wings and the quality of suppliers that quite often serve companies ?

And please, neither is Santa is riding as sleigh nor is Randy writing his blog in person.....


User currently offlineSlz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6438 times:

First of all, it sounds really stupid for a man like Baseler to have to take anecdotal quotes to proof his point. I'd reckon there is enough statistical data around to compare dispatch reliability of the 737 vs the A320 not to have to use this kind of low class arguments, unless of course it is to 'proof' something which statistics won't, simply because it isn't true???

Anyway, I imagine this blog of Baseler to be written not by him personally, but by some junior employee of his PR-department, probably after an idea from this yuppie ghostwriter too.

Which makes me wonder:

Is A.net infiltrated by yuppie members from the Boeing PR-departement?

As a long time daily reader on this forum, I can't help but happen to see a significant surge of pro-Boeing topics on this forum recently. Threads which do very little more than praise all that B does lately and bash whatever response A gives to this. I know this forum has had those kind of topics in the past too, but nowadays, you can see tons of them every single day! Either the minds have grown further apart on this forum, or somebody has been stirring things up a bit here....
And what to think about the endless stream of threads started from quotes from various airline CEO's showing their apparent interest in Boeing planes? I think it is a safe bet to say every serious airline is looking into the new models of BOTH manufacturers regularly, yet for one reason or the other, some members need to share with us the 'great interest' of BA, LH or whatever other big fish of the day in the 787, 737NG or 747-8, etc.... giving the impression the whole world is about to buy B planes only.

Is it too much of a wild idea to imagine a PR-departement, which sets up a blog dedicated to the surfing aviation enthusiasts, to also target the same group through public forums in order to win their harts and minds without them noticing?

Fact is that the Baseler's ghostwriter spends time on this very forum to actually read individual replies, so -and I guess you all know what I am talking about- would need to have an extremely though self-discipline NOT to react to them.

Shall we open up a contest to unmask the person(s)?
Any suggestions as to which A.net members might be writing their posts from a computer at the Boeing PR department?

[Edited 2006-03-15 11:58:55]

User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6415 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Thread starter):
One participant in the Airliners forum, after flying an A319 and then getting on a 737, conceded there may be a slight difference in width, but concurred with the fact that the A320 family has more technical delays:

OMG, sorry, but how reliable is such a source? Baseler really informs people about what an a.netter is writing? Such as: the sister from a friend of mine is having a baby. Baby's godfather flew with a Tristar 25 years ago and was complaining about the loud engines?

Sorry, but how deep can a person fall to use such sources???



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25 Glareskin : So tell me Keesje, is your last name Leahy???
26 Leelaw : Gee, sounds like winning the hearts and minds of aviation enthusiasts via web blogs and discussion forums must be a strategic necessity and profitabl
27 Slz396 : Quite on the contrary! a low cost hidden PR campaign, to win harts and minds over without them noticing, wouldn't that be the wet dream of ANY PR depa
28 Leelaw : OMG, you are serious. John Leahy better get his own web blog up and organize a discussion forum infiltration operation ASAP before a "serious web blo
29 Post contains images Glareskin : Chris, I agree with the big picture your painting here. But if you put it this way you might considering to stop with this forum.... By the way: your
30 CHRISBA777ER : LOL i'm not spotty, 14, or from Virginia. I'm not even an interested amateur - more of a bored and disinterested professional. I'm certainly hormonal
31 Post contains images Cornish : Absolutely correct - anyone on here convinces themselves otherwise that A.net plays an important part in the industry is deluding themselves. Yes the
32 HBDAN : Ok, speaking to tell me you never ever have used A.net for any information related to your business... I see what you mean, but there are better ways
33 BestWestern : We had six weeks of no inane AvsB threads. Last week they start back up again.
34 CHRISBA777ER : Imagine how f**ked the industry would be if A-net DID play an important part? That would be me out of a job for one thing! And you Cornish! The whole
35 CHRISBA777ER : ...and Northwest finally retire their DC9s.
36 Jonathan-l : ... and Peter Max draws a crowd even larger than U2.
37 Sabenapilot : CHRISBA777ER, that was hilarious, thank you! especially: American scrapping all their A300s "because they suck" and cause massive damage to a 763ER in
38 Post contains images HBDAN : ... and aviation industry loses money also without A. net!
39 Glareskin : Yeah, but that was boring. Yes, spring is in the air. And as a response to your later post I would like to recall my advise to look for another hobby
40 Post contains images Tigerotor77W : Good to see that this board has retained its sense of humor... But for the people who are pointing fingers left and right, cut yourself some slack. E
41 Post contains images Cornish : You forgot to add that Ryanair and Southwest would be out of business for not flying where anyone wants to go and their product is too cheap. Delta a
42 Sabenapilot : Although I can't see a real pattern like some do, I must say my fellow countryman has a point here: Meaning some replies to A vs B topics might indeed
43 Kaneporta1 : And don't forget that the A380's wake vortices will rip whole countries apart and ICAO will impose a worldwide grounding of anything flying each time
44 DAYflyer : Excellent retort. Touche!!
45 Post contains images Jacobin777 : hey, u're entitled to your opinion mate but those are the facts..regardless of your opinion.. not to mention....I was only quoting because its was co
46 Columba : Please consider for whom Mr.Basler or his staff is writing, in this blog: I guess it is mostly aviation enthusiasts or maybe journalists who try to ge
47 Jgold47 : They are also looking for violations of non-disclousre agreements, insider trading information etc... A company I used to work for sucessfully sued Y
48 MrComet : Yes, and there would be some other decisions if Airbus fans were in charge including: -The EC would finally pass a law mandating that all Eastern Euro
49 CHRISBA777ER : Who's generalising? You brought it up by suggesting i was biased - not me. Anyway - if you want to talk to BestWestern - quote him, not me.
50 Post contains images Tifoso : Isn't that exactly what I did in my first post on this thread? You were the one who jumped in.    And, your entire response seems to have stemmed f
51 DL021 : I'll bet that there are more than just Baseler that have this forum listed in their favorites retriever/bookmarks. This example is another good reason
52 CHRISBA777ER : LOL!!! So true!!!
53 Post contains images Glareskin : That is not mandatory at the moment? That's funny...
54 Post contains images Astuteman : I'd love to see just how much "fun" we would have had if Leahy had written a similar blog.
55 N1120A : Air Canada, and even though he is an Airbus fan, he represents them well
56 Kaneporta1 : Funny he failed to mention that there were 5 737 fatal crashes last year...
57 AirFrnt : I think it is a bit more balanced then that. I think you have rabid Airbus fans who insit that everyone is going to fly A380's nonstop from LAX to SA
58 Post contains images Babybus : I wouldn't worry too much. I heard that Boeing are pretty much going to go bust this year! I heard this from a little girl on the bus this morning.
59 Post contains images Johnny : The B737 is reliable ?!? Did not notice that so far... Probably in other airlines daily ops.Unfortunately not in mine... This airplane is like a old V
60 Tjc2 : chin up!
61 Post contains images Jacobin777 : I would have at least sported a nice smiley face... thanks... and for the record, yes he does...but it unfortunately for him, all his cheerleading fo
62 Mexicana757 : What does that have to do with this post???? I know of two 737 fatal crashes, can you tell me what the other three are? So I can be up to date.
63 Post contains images MBJ2000 : AC would crawl back to Airbus on its knees, promissing to buy only Airbus for the next 150 years. Boeing would finally accept that it was an error to
64 Leelaw : Nothing, maybe some debris from the Grammatikos crash hit his play-pen.
65 B797 : The A319 is almost alike as the 73NG. However, personally I prefer the 73NG. I personally recall delays due to the aircraft at a much higher rate on a
66 Post contains links Kaneporta1 : I thought this post was about how reliable the 737 is compared to the A320. At least the A320s make it to the airport in one piece. (ok, minus some w
67 Post contains links and images OyKIE : The quote was from Fanoftristars in this topic RE: Randy Takes A Stab At The B737/A320 Width Diff (by Fanoftristars Mar 7 2006 in Civil Aviation)#ID26
68 CrossChecked : Something tells me that you'd never say anything that would interest them.
69 Phuebner : I quoted an A.net member in my research paper for one of my Masters Classes at Embry-Riddle....no worries, I ensured he was credited properly. There i
70 Leelaw : Actually, the first fatality involving any 737NG didn't occur until the WN crash at MDW last December, and that was the unfortunate child in the car
71 OyKIE : Even though the 737 does well here in Scandinavia with on-time departures, I still preferred the MD-80 in the SAS flights in rough Norwegian weather.
72 Mexicana757 : Thank you for the link. But I still don't see the relation of those five crahes with this post. I believe its up the airlines to get the airplanes fr
73 Columba : No, like you can read in the original post the discussion also includes the "classic":
74 PlaneHunter : Quite interesting to see Randy referring to a.net, but choosing one quote out of millions in order to prove a point is quite simplistic. Well, that's
75 Post contains images Mexicana757 : Well thanks for that correction. I misssed it when I read it. [Edited 2006-03-15 22:59:44]
76 Lehpron : Pardon my doubt that Mr. Randy Baseler might have picked what he liked to read and may also have ignored the rest, or so may have appeared irrelevant
77 Sabenapilot : Baseler likes to tell anecdotal stories about tech probs to proof his point? I can see where he comes from.... I am looking with eager to read his sto
78 Post contains images Tigerotor77W : Sabenapilot, while you bring up a true story, there's simply no reason for Boeing to shoot its own foot again after that incident by stating it on a
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