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User currently offlineCNZ3 From Canada, joined Mar 2006, 133 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4036 times:

Hi All. This is my first new topic, so here goes.

I have a flight booked on AC Jazz, YYZ-IND on Canada Day weekend for the US Grand Prix. This flight got "upgraded"  Yeah sure from a DH1 to a CRJ. I'm 6'4", 250 lbs. I just flew on a DH1 YUL-YBG return and found it quite enjoyable. Is there any difference in cabin comfort between a DH8 & CRJ apart from the fact that I can't stand up to full height on a CRJ? I've heard that being my size a window seat might not be a good idea. Anybody been in a similar situation? Thanks.

Steve


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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12119 posts, RR: 49
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4028 times:
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CRJ Cabin Comfort, that is an oxymoron!


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User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4018 times:
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If you're lucky you'll be on the CRJ705 which is pretty comfy, so I hear... 34 inch pitch in Y class.


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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3919 times:

The equipment on YYZ-IND is going to be the CR1/2. Very horrid cabin comfort for anyone. The DH8 is a far more comfortable a/c. Although being a crewmember on the ERJ family, I am more biased towards EMB.



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User currently offlineUPSMD11 From United States of America, joined May 2003, 816 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3896 times:
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I'm 6'4" and 240lbs. I just flew on 4 ERJ-135/145 flights on CO the past few days. Being on the 1 side of this aircraft is perfectly comfortable. Being in the window seat of a CRJ1/2 is quite the opposite.

My loyalty lies with the ERJ and CRJ700.

John


User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1661 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3896 times:

does anyone know, offhand, what the fuselage difference is between the Dash and the CRJ? I have never had the opportunity to fly on the CRJ, but have flown on the Dash 8 series 1/200, 300 and 400(Q400), and the Dash 7 series also! A couple of times it was across the rockies, and found the plane very capable... Seems ashame that after, what, a decade of flying, what was once considered "revolutionary", is so badly beaten up (CRJ)...


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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3896 times:

The CR7 is not any better than the CR1/2. It only looks bigger but it is still the same a/c.


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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6073 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3877 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 6):
The CR7 is not any better than the CR1/2. It only looks bigger but it is still the same a/c.

I beg to differ in many, many ways.



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User currently offlineScalebuilder From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3872 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 3):
The DH8 is a far more comfortable a/c

I could only speak as a passenger, and not a crewmember, but could not agree more with you!! My three children would agree just as much!


User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3854 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 6):
The CR7 is not any better than the CR1/2. It only looks bigger but it is still the same a/c.

Yes and no. The floor has been lowered on the CRJ700/900. If you are a broad shouldered person,an aisle seat would be recommended,especially on the CRJ100/200 due to the inward sloping effect of the fuselage beside the window seats. I don't mind flying a CRJ on longer legs if the alternative is going to be an additional 1/2 hour or more of flying on a DH8.


User currently offlineNwafflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1050 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3854 times:

The CRJ is the most uncomfortable plane I've ever been on -- too short, too narrow -- there is no leg room, there is no elbow room -- the meal tray (of course there are no meals, but a laptop is nice to put there) doesn't even fit.

Now, a 1/2 full CRJ is OK -- where every passenger has a 1/2 row to themselves. I've been packed in to passengers where I couldn't even stay off the aisle - I'll take any prop plane over the CRJ 200 -- for that matter, a fast Greyhound bus would be preferable


User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3844 times:

Quoting CNZ3 (Thread starter):

I have a flight booked on AC Jazz, YYZ-IND on Canada Day weekend for the US Grand Prix. This flight got "upgraded" from a DH1 to a CRJ. I'm 6'4", 250 lbs. I just flew on a DH1 YUL-YBG return and found it quite enjoyable. Is there any difference in cabin comfort between a DH8 & CRJ apart from the fact that I can't stand up to full height on a CRJ? I've heard that being my size a window seat might not be a good idea. Anybody been in a similar situation?

Be thankful it's a relatively quick flight. I've done MSP to AVL (2 hours) on one of those things. It's hellish. Try and get the emergency exit row when you check in, it'll offer a little more in the way of legroom, but the trade off is a little colder flight.

I'm 6'2", 240 lbs and it's not that great for me. DH3 I flew to YXU and back last Friday/Saturday was amply comfortable compared to the CRJ tho. And yes, you will not be able to stand up full height in the CRJ.



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3809 times:

I prefer ERJ's to CRJ's, but come on, having to spend one or two hours on a CRJ isn't the end of the world. It's a jet at least. The low windows are annoying but I can deal with it if it means a nonstop flight. The seats aren't all that great, but that's really up to the airline. I have been on Comair, Skywest, and Midway CRJ's, and Midway was hands down the best. Cushy leather seats.

User currently offlinePlanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6249 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3785 times:

Quoting Rikkus67 (Reply 5):
does anyone know, offhand, what the fuselage difference is between the Dash and the CRJ?

Main differences...

The aisle is almost 3" taller in the Dash-8.

The cabin at arm rest height is 3" wider in the CRJ200.

The floor has been lowered 1" on the CRJ700 vs the 200... but that makes the cabin floor width 2" narrower on the CRJ700.



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User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3743 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 12):
It's a jet at least.

That's the one thing most people forget. We may mourn the loss of mainline jets on certain routes,truth is,if it were not for these regional jets,we wouldn't have many of the flights and routes we have today.


User currently offlineEssentialPowr From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1820 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3739 times:

Not mentioned, but that's why the erj is better than the crj. The lav on the crj is typically only half the barrel section, meaning the tallest point is less than 68 inches. The lav on the erj is as big as a mainline a/c.

User currently offlineMycrj17 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3732 times:

Im 6'4" 210 and a OH's crj was not fun from KMDW to KCVG then KCVG to KCHO, but try going to KIAD to KORF in a J-41 for DH was real bad,....


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User currently offlineOmand1 From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3724 times:

I would rather be shipped in a wooden crate with UPS/FedEx than be stuck in that flying bus with wings! I have done a CRJ-200 from YYZ to YWG and spent the next two weeks with daily visits to the chiropractor. NEVER AGAIN!


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User currently offlineAvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3714 times:

I am so glad this thread had begun. I beat up the other week in commiting the CRJ was uncomfortable and other comments

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 1):
CRJ Cabin Comfort, that is an oxymoron!

Very true, Any flight longer than 2 hrs on an EV or OH, I notice the seat cushions become very uncomfortable.

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 3):
The equipment on YYZ-IND is going to be the CR1/2. Very horrid cabin comfort for anyone. The DH8 is a far more comfortable a/c. Although being a crewmember on the ERJ family, I am more biased towards EMB.

The ERJ family is a considerably nicer RJ. I've noticed the windows are wider on the ERJ. Seat A is the best. I've flown DL 732 on the DFW-CVG route and AE ERJ. The ERJ is blocked sometimes 15 mins earlier than DL.


User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3634 times:

Quoting Omand1 (Reply 17):
I would rather be shipped in a wooden crate with UPS/FedEx than be stuck in that flying bus with wings! I have done a CRJ-200 from YYZ to YWG and spent the next two weeks with daily visits to the chiropractor. NEVER AGAIN!

I am sorry but i have to laugh. You guys are so dramatic..  Smile On a serious note though Omand1, sorry you had to go through that...

But got to admit the entire CRJ series are a rather uncomfortable lot of aircraft. I prefer flying ERJs, and I actually enjoy a well kept dash 8. However, it is a pity that these regional jets (regardless the type, except for the EMB170/190 series which i am yet to try) are being used on such long flights. I have a friend who works in NAS, and he telling me about these CRJ flights they get from CVG and other US cities, and I just can't imagine flying all the way to NAS on CRJ. Anything over 1 hour is pushing it for me.



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User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3501 times:

Quoting Captaink (Reply 19):
Anything over 1 hour is pushing it for me.

One of the main reasons the CRJ 100/200 is getting a bad reputation for passenger comfort,is the abuse of the stage lengths by airlines. I really don't think it should be on routes over 2 hours,just as I feel the DH8 should be limited to flights of 1.5 hours or less.(The DH4 and Q series could be an exception).


User currently offlineSBN580 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 401 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3455 times:

The CRJ is one of the most beautiful airliners ever....on the outside. My experience is only with the 100/200 series. I am 6'1 1/2" and I want the window seat. Ugh.  irked  Not only was sitting a problem, but the windows are tooooo low! Not the worst violator in that department. The all-time champ for me in that area is still the F-27. But any plane where I have fold my body in half and turn my head to look out the window is too much for me. I can say my ERJ experience is only moderately better comfort wise. At least the window is better. I know that the CRJ will always seduce me though. Especially when you get to go out on the ramp to board in the open air. You approach one of those beauties and  cloudnine ,up the stairs and in and then you sit down.  headache 


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User currently offlineCa2ohHP From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 955 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3449 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 6):
The CR7 is not any better than the CR1/2. It only looks bigger but it is still the same a/c.

Try flying both, then try telling us it's the same.

From seatguru.com:

Air Canada seat width and pitches:
DH3 31-32" pitch / 17" width
CRJ 31-32" pitch / 17" width
320 31-32" pitch / 17" width (hospitality class)

So really, your seat on a CRJ is the same dimensions as it would be in hospitality class on a 320.


User currently offlineMidway2AirTran From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 864 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3377 times:

My question is exactly how much more comfortable is the CRJ-700+series compared to the -100 or -200 from someone who works with them or actually flown them? Are the windows at a normal height with the floor lowered? Are the lavs taller? I still have yet to grab a flight on anything higher than the -200.

I've flown the EMB145 and must say it is quite comfortable (big windows=nice viewing!), though the headroom in the aisle makes it feel real enclosed.



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User currently offline727Tiger From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3342 times:

I'm 5'10, 170, with broad shoulders, and I was the most cramped I have ever been, except on a Jetstream, on all of the CRJ flights on which I've flown. I was particularly cramped in a window seat, even on an emergency exit row with a bit more legroom.

If I'm flying on a CRJ, I would just as soon pack myself in my luggage and go that way.


25 N766UA : That's definately not true at all. The windows are higher, the seats are more comfortable, the cabin is updated. It's a big difference. CRJ-100/200 =
26 Canadi>n : I concur with N766UA. I have flown AC and Mesa CRJ-100's and the Mesa CRJ-700. The -100 is just that, on a scale of 1 to 10 for comfort, it rates -100
27 9252fly : Anyone know why Bombardier never tried lowering the floor on the 200? It would have been more appealing.
28 Post contains images CRJ900 : I think I read somewhere that on the CRJ100 and -200 the air-conditioning system takes up most of the underfloor space, but on the CRJ700 and -900 th
29 FutureFO : I have flown on the CR2 and the CR7. I still don't like the CRJ regardless of the number after the CRJ designation. The CR7 is just as uncomfortable a
30 MesaMXORD : CRJ900, On the 100/200/700/900 The A/C packs are behind the cargo pit. Underneath the floor is the Avionics bay. And if they lowered the floor on the
31 N766UA : Amen to that. I hate working those airplanes. Tiny bin, DC ground power, lavs are a pain to dump, always need de-iced, etc. etc. The CRJs, on the oth
32 AviatorTJ : I said the same thing before opening the thread. I think the CRJ-200 is a terrible aircraft on all levels. The floor/window level really seals the de
33 MesaMXORD : Its not that bad. . . Turn your head to the side and kida arch your back and it all works. You think using the lav is bad try sticking your arm down t
34 CUSSkiosks : CRJs are cramped, but not so much... But if you're tall or wide-shouldered, you want to avoid bulkhead row, and window seat, so check in early and get
35 Post contains images Midway2airtran : I've found that sitting deep down in the seat helps bring your head closer to window level. Maybe some day there will be perfect sized aircraft for e
36 L1329II : I dont think i read here that anyone has been on a -700 or -900. From everyone I spoke to the 7 and 9's are a much better experience. Also has anyone
37 DeltAirlines : The CR7 is not bad if you get the exit rows...these have fully cushioned seats and a boatload of legroom (at least on ASA...I've taken several ASA CR7
38 ImperialEagle : The issue that finally forced me to loose my loyalty with my hometown airline was the use of those CRJ's on my frequently traveled routes. The most un
39 MesaMXORD : The 1st class isnt anything to write home about. but it sure beats sitting next to someone that can fill both seats for three and a half hours in coac
40 Mycrj17 : What about flying in a Do 328jet, lots of legroom(I thought) and big windows, and the windows are higher up to the seat, I like that one....
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