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Aeroflot Decision On Plane Deal Postponed  
User currently offlineMOW From Israel, joined Dec 2005, 192 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2889 times:

It's all about politics and nothing else!

Further reading:
The Moscow Times article

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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2877 times:

Interesting read. Thanks.

"There was no fundamental difference in terms of fuel efficiency, the primary concern of Aeroflot's managers."



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User currently offlineFVTu134 From Russia, joined Aug 2005, 173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2847 times:

Well considering the relations beween the US and Russia have been slowly going downhill (on a political level) and the fact that the article mentions that the WTO case has somehow found its way into the decision making process I would think that Airbus is on the upside here. Boeing already has a big R&D facility in Moscow and is participating in RRJ and Airbus I believe was investing in Irkutsk facilities and promising some more A350 work so it will be interesting to see what the end result of all these factors will be.


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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25062 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2830 times:

This is really turning into a major soap opera.

Having mentioned the WTO issue however, it could very well serve Russia to go with Boeing in order to win favor and subsequent approval of Russia's application into the WTO from the US government.

One other important issue for Aeroflot certainly must also be that Boeing will be able to deliver the 787 2-3 years earlier then what Airbus can with the A350 especialy now with its recent further 6 month delay in the program.



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User currently offlineEHHO From Bulgaria, joined Dec 2005, 815 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2771 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 3):
One other important issue for Aeroflot certainly must also be that Boeing will be able to deliver the 787 2-3 years earlier then what Airbus can with the A350 especialy now with its recent further 6 month delay in the program.

I'm not sure that is a serious concern for SU: they're still accumulating their 767 fleet, training cew etc. They surely can last at least 5 years before they start retiring the type.



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12464 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2687 times:
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Having mentioned the WTO issue however, it could very well serve Russia to go with Airbus in order to win favor and subsequent approval of Russia's application into the WTO from the EU.


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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24925 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2681 times:

I have a funny feeling they may end up going with both Airbus and Boeing.


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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6885 posts, RR: 63
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2681 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 6):
I have a funny feeling they may end up going with both Airbus and Boeing.

And both RR and GE? If trying to keep both Europe and the US happy is the point they could buy the 787 with RR or the A350 with GE.


User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2662 times:

Again? Seems this will take forever until they decide.

User currently offlineSU From Russia, joined Apr 2004, 360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 6):
I have a funny feeling they may end up going with both Airbus and Boeing.

I like that feeling Gkirk.

Personally, I think SU colors will look much better on 787 then 350...



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User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 38
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2544 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 5):
Having mentioned the WTO issue however, it could very well serve Russia to go with Airbus in order to win favor and subsequent approval of Russia's application into the WTO from the EU.

The EU already signed a trade accord a couple of years ago. They haven't done so with the US, as the article mentions. They are in negotiations to do so, so why would they order Airbus to get approval?



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User currently offlineBoeing777/747 From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 643 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2477 times:

I would say "ofcourse" Aeroflot postponed it for the time being. Aeroflot is going to join KL/Af's Skyteam.

User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2468 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 3):
One other important issue for Aeroflot certainly must also be that Boeing will be able to deliver the 787 2-3 years earlier then what Airbus can with the A350 especialy now with its recent further 6 month delay in the program.

Don't forget slots are hard to come by for the 787 nowadays so not sure that's very true.


User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2181 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 3):
One other important issue for Aeroflot certainly must also be that Boeing will be able to deliver the 787 2-3 years earlier then what Airbus can with the A350 especialy now with its recent further 6 month delay in the program.

Im not so sure of that, I doubt there are many 787 slots left in the first few years of production. But its also possible that Boeing will ramp up the production rate.


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