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User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2395 posts, RR: 6
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5971 times:

Apologies if anyone caught this, but I certainly couldn't find it.

Anyone know what this Continental 767-200 was doing in HKG in January? CO does not rotate any 762s through the Micronesia system (which would have replaced the normal 738 to GUM), nor does the aircraft have the range for EWR-HKG. Was this a charter or maintenance ferry to HAECO?

If anybody with a deeper knowledge of the situation could enlighten me, it would be most appreciated.


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User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6588 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5939 times:

CO have been sending some 767-200s and -400s here for maintenance, as well as some 737-800s with winglets.

There is a 767-200 here at the moment getting attention.


User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5832 times:

Just to add the 738's at HAECO had the winglets installed in Hong Kong. The 762 here now (Mid March) is N69154, the 4th in order to visit HKG.

User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2629 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5691 times:

There also was a 752 there. I was wondering the same thing CODC10.

Thanks for the info CX flyboy and N754PR.



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User currently offlineFlypdx From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 636 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5445 times:

I believe that CO does a lot of their bog MX checks in HKG. Well, it isn't CO doing the checks, but that is where they are outsourced to.

User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5331 times:

Quoting CX flyboy (Reply 1):
as well as some 737-800s with winglets

Bet those were AirMic 800's.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5288 times:

Quoting Flypdx (Reply 4):
I believe that CO does a lot of their bog MX checks in HKG. Well, it isn't CO doing the checks, but that is where they are outsourced to.

it must be a substantial cost difference in m/x labour for them to fuel the plane and fly it over the atlantic and back...granted there are no pax/cargo, but it still probaby will run a few grand each time to put enough petrol to fly it over....



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User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5150 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 6):
but it still probaby will run a few grand each time to put enough petrol to fly it over....

CO doesn't specifically fly empty flights to HKG just to bring the aircraft over - they usually rotate them through HNL and GUM on regular pax flights to get them to HKG, either as an extra section or equipment substitution for the regular 764.

Separately, what is HAECO's reputation for maintenance procedures?

I know it sounds very ethnocentric, but I think of things like B6 outsourcing maintenance to El Salvador and then their subsequent nosewheel issue and wonder about the quality of work outside the US.

Granted, Hong Kong is quite different from El Salvador, but still, does anyone know how they are viewed within the industry?


User currently offlineFlypdx From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 636 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5137 times:

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 7):

I know it sounds very ethnocentric, but I think of things like B6 outsourcing maintenance to El Salvador and then their subsequent nosewheel issue and wonder about the quality of work outside the US.

That was one event that was a somewhat common Airbus problem (I believe). I don't believe it was ever linked to faulty MX, and I believe that B6 has a wonderful record when it comes to MX.

[Edited 2006-03-19 22:26:36]

User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2789 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5083 times:

JetBlue does the overwhelming majority of its maintenance with Air Canada Technical Services in Winnipeg. TACA (El Salvador) only does a small share of the mx. Based on preliminary findings, the nose gear issues have nothing to do with mx.

User currently offlineAR1300 From Argentina, joined Feb 2005, 1740 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4983 times:

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 7):
I know it sounds very ethnocentric, but I think of things like B6 outsourcing maintenance to El Salvador and then their subsequent nosewheel issue and wonder about the quality of work outside the US.

that's quite not right. If they are FAA and JAR approved, they are as good as anyone.It's the same standard rating for all of them, no matter where they are.Hispanic or Asian mechs are not less qualified than an ''American'' (if you can define that).plus, Aeroman, VEM and ENAER are getting more and more customers from all over the globe, taking advantage of the labor costs down here.

Quoting Flypdx (Reply 8):
That was one event that was a somewhat common Airbus problem

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User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks ago) and read 3891 times:

HAECO is one of the best names in the business, which is why so many people use them.

As for the CO 757's, only one came to visit HAECO. I think its now 3 764's and 4 762's plus all the 777's.


User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3750 times:

HAECO is, as mentioned, one of the most respected outfits in the industry. We have not had any problems with their work and the facilities (which I had the privilege to tour while in HKG) are sparkling new and world-class.

AFAIK, the 767-200s are ferried in from the States. Working them into the GUM/NRT/HNL/NGO/LAX/EWR/IAH rotation we use in the Pacific is not possible.

Last I saw, the 764s get ferried in from GUM. The 737-800s getting their winglets fitted are all GUM-based as well. This is all in addition to the normal maintenance our 777s have been receiving at HAECO for years during their extended ground time at HKG and periodic long-term checks.


User currently offlineLevg79 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3240 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 6):
it must be a substantial cost difference in m/x labour for them to fuel the plane and fly it over the atlantic and back...

More like over Pacific...

I once had the similar question about this photo:

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I guess it's possible to find such photographs in the database once in a while.

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User currently offlineBlueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3936 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2483 times:
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Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 6):
it must be a substantial cost difference in m/x labour for them to fuel the plane and fly it over the atlantic

That is, if CO pays for the fuel. The freight hauler I worked for a while ago was flying 727s from Europe to South America for MX but the MX company was paying for the fuel to get the planes there and back...



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2467 times:

Quoting Levg79 (Reply 13):
More like over Pacific...

yah...duh..silly me  crazy 

Quoting Blueflyer (Reply 14):

That is, if CO pays for the fuel. The freight hauler I worked for a while ago was flying 727s from Europe to South America for MX but the MX company was paying for the fuel to get the planes there and back...

intersting....thanks for the info..... Smile

wait until lou dobbs finds out about this one. stirthepot 



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