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User currently offlineCurious From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 236 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 21981 times:

http://www.mahan.aero/htmls/en/about_routeint.aspx

Just check out a few routes, I had no Idea Delhi is in China

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User currently offlineHjulicher From Liechtenstein, joined Feb 2005, 879 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 21953 times:

It's funny that on their routemap Shanghai is in Japan. It would be pretty funny if you booked a flight to China, but their airline flies you to Japan.

Their website is pretty professional. It reminds me of some Russian airlines new websites. The english is perfect which is good. Being from the west, I just haven't heard of them, so their is reluctance on my behalf to fly them.



LH 442
User currently offlineSeanp11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 21844 times:

How about the "Meadle East"?

User currently offlineCrosscountry From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 21807 times:

Was it not a Mahan A300 which made the foolishly low approach into BHX the other week.
Perhaps their approach plates are done by the same guy!


User currently offlineGSM763 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 21790 times:

Also Manchester now seems to be somewhere ner Campbeltown

User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2502 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 21606 times:

I have a hard time taking anything or anyone from Iran seriously on a littany of issues. Needless to say, the misappropriated list of destinations doesn't surprise me.

I credit them, on the other hand, for at least attempting to maintain an English version of their website.



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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 21563 times:

The EU should be happy as well.....they been granted territory all the way to the Pacific!

The Meadle East is funny....is that the phonetic spelling?

They get an "A" for effort however....



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 21519 times:

Quoting Curious (Thread starter):
Just check out a few routes, I had no Idea Delhi is in China

This happens frequently on many airline websites and it is posted always here in the Civil Aviation Forum. Use the search engine, you will be surprised how many results you'll get.

Quoting Seanp11 (Reply 3):
How about the "Meadle East"?

Wow, a spelling mistake. Guess what, it can happen on every website, just yesterday was expedia.com advertising for cheap QUantas flights.  Yeah sure

Quoting Crosscountry (Reply 4):
Was it not a Mahan A300 which made the foolishly low approach into BHX the other week.

Yeah, the guy in their IT department has no clue about geography so the whole airline is unsafe.

Quoting 777fan (Reply 6):
Needless to say, the misappropriated list of destinations doesn't surprise me.

Why, do you think that everyone is stupid there?

Just for the record, I flew DUS-THR-BKK and back on W5 and I liked it, sure, service was nothing to write home about (no PTVs, no booze on board, etc.) but the flight was very cheap and their cabin crews were always friendly and attentive, all my four flights on them were very enjoyable.

Would I fly on them again? Yes, definitely!

Patrick


User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2502 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 21457 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 7):
Why, do you think that everyone is stupid there?

No Patrick, not at all; that's an implication that you're making. I was refering to the lack of attention to detail on their flash route map. Placing Shanghai in Japan (among other glaring errors) is inexcusable, regardless of who's actually putting the site together.

It's hard to take a country whose "leadership" denies the Holocaust and claims that it needs nuclear power for energy (while simultaneously boasting about its plentiful natural gas and oil reserves) seriously.

Flame me if you wish, but I'll gladly defend my opinion on that.



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 21414 times:

Quoting 777fan (Reply 8):
No Patrick, not at all; that's an implication that you're making. I was refering to the lack of attention to detail on their flash route map. Placing Shanghai in Japan (among other glaring errors) is inexcusable, regardless of who's actually putting the site together.

As I wrote above, that happenend on many other airline websites before, no big deal.

Quoting 777fan (Reply 8):
It's hard to take a country whose "leadership" denies the Holocaust and claims that it needs nuclear power for energy (while simultaneously boasting about its plentiful natural gas and oil reserves) seriously.

Here I agree absolutely with you, but that is not the topic, let us stick to the aviation discussion about Mahan Air (and their website).

Patrick


User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2644 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 21390 times:

I like this line from the website:

We have also introduced the A320 as most popular narrow body passenger aircraft in the world to our fleet

Last time I checked Boeing has made more B737 than Airbus has made airframes.




I think the owner's son made this website some night in his or her basement with shareware off the Internet Big grin



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 21329 times:

Quoting B4real (Reply 10):
I think the owner's son made this website some night in his or her basement with shareware off the Internet

And I think that Mr. Rafsandschani's son has better things to do than designing the website of his father's airline.  Wink

Patrick


User currently offlineCurious From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 21316 times:

B4real
Not quite true on the owner's who is a multi-millionaire apparently with property in Beverley Hills. I think he has plenty of otherthings to do,

777Fan
While Mahan may have matter's to joke about, and the Leaderships Holocaust denial is condemable, I would not be to quick to judge a whole nation based on its leadership. If that were the case what would George W. say about the US


User currently offlineScalebuilder From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 21281 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 11):
And I think that Mr. Rafsandschani's son has better things to do than designing the website of his father's airline

And exactly what brings you to that conclusion??


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 21222 times:

Quoting Scalebuilder (Reply 13):
And exactly what brings you to that conclusion??

I think that Mr. Rafsandschani has enough money to employ people who do that for him (not very accurate, though I admit), so that his son doesn't need to do it.

That is of course just my guess.

Quoting Curious (Reply 12):
While Mahan may have matter's to joke about, and the Leaderships Holocaust denial is condemable, I would not be to quick to judge a whole nation based on its leadership. If that were the case what would George W. say about the US

Can we let George W. Bush out of this discussion, please? I have no idea what he has to do with Mahan Air.

Patrick


User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2644 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 21198 times:

Quoting Curious (Reply 12):
B4real
Not quite true on the owner's who is a multi-millionaire apparently with property in Beverley Hills. I think he has plenty of otherthings to do,



Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 11):
And I think that Mr. Rafsandschani's son has better things to do than designing the website of his father's airline.

Totally a joke. I'll admit I didn't know that Rafi was the boss. But, a little lite humor was what I'm saying the page looks like.



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User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 20717 times:

Not to mention Damascus Turkey - but then again if their flights came up on a search result with Kayak or something like that, and it happened to be the best itinerary, yes, I would fly them.

User currently onlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3530 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 19400 times:

Wow, I can fly to Jaddah in the Meadle East. They seem to have the monopoly on this route. Big grin


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User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2179 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 19107 times:

If only because of the map, yes I would have no problem flying on this airline. They come to the UK and Germany, so I should guess their planes are pretty safe, or at least periodically controlled with the strict EU standards. So no a priori no-fly for me. A300 and A310 are part of my yet-to-fly list in addition!

Well, according to the map Damascus is in Turkey, Jeddah in Jordan or Israel or other neighbours, Delhi in Tibet, Manchester in Scotland and Shanghai in Japan, but I bet their website has been made "cheap", with mistakes being part of the deal! And again, as previously said, not the first time this is seen!



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User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 18170 times:

Oh, yeah...my main concern flying with Mahan Air is the Route Map !  rotfl 


USAdreamliner Big grin


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 18141 times:

I have a little question: since when is Manchester in Scotland?  Wink

User currently offlineLH492 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 208 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 18115 times:

In this "new classes" advertisement on the left side of the page, aren´t those LH business class seats??
Why don´t they show their own business class seats, or will they get the old c class chairs from LH?

cheers,
Philipp



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User currently offlineSfomb67 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 17970 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 14):
I think that Mr. Rafsandschani has enough money to employ people who do that for him (not very accurate, though I admit), so that his son doesn't need to do it

Does he have enough money to hire some that took geography in school, or was this out-sourced?



Not as easy as originally perceived
User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 17941 times:

It's got wings..... Of course i'll fly it


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User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2502 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 17721 times:

Quoting Curious (Reply 12):
While Mahan may have matter's to joke about, and the Leaderships Holocaust denial is condemable, I would not be to quick to judge a whole nation based on its leadership. If that were the case what would George W. say about the US

No doubt a lot of people (to include those in the US) think poorly of Americans based on W and what they think the US is really like. I grew up with a handful of Iranians whose families fled the revolution in '79 - they were wonderful and from what I've heard from others that have been to Iran in recent years, reflect the people as a whole. That being said, W has never openly vowed to "exterminate" a group of people, nor has he subjugated his own people.

Back to aviation - I wouldn't fly Mahan for two reasons:

1) Iran and air travel don't always mix; safety doesn't seem to be a priority
2) Attention to detail: if their website is full of so many errors, can you be assured that their safety records and training manuals are well kept? Personally, I wouldn't take the chance but that's just one man's opinion.



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25 SW733 : Unless the pilots print off the map from the website just before climbing into the plane and flying that route, who cares? The people who fly and main
26 Newagebird : hey its pretty obvious that its an error with the program they;ve used to develop it...when you arent zoomed in its fine but otherwise when u do zoom
27 Jbguller : Yes perfectly fine, and they even have Europe extending itself into what was formally the USSR!! Not even my world map has that!! [/sarcasm]
28 Lordanmol : In this map it seems BKK is in Vietnam Regards
29 StudentFlyer : Just wondering to confirm, what's the benchmark of today's mid-sized passenger jet, and what's the most reliable jet airline in service? It says in th
30 Post contains images India777 : ... and Dubai is not on the sea??? My flying instructors had always reason that my geography is not very well...
31 Post contains images Ourboeing : They qualify for membership to: "ONE WORLD" alliance OURBOEING
32 Gr8Circle : In this age, where the Internet is a major form of communication and image building, such errors are not acceptable and especially, so many in one si
33 FlySSC : Do advertisement have to reflect the reality ? After all, British Airways is claming to be the "World's favourite airline ...." Please, stop making f
34 RootsAir : Reminds me of EK's website which also gives such erroneous information concerning destinations and their location
35 Tjc2 : And although it actually isn't, when one looks at the enlarged map of asia, Manila appears to be in the middle of the South China Sea! I had to look a
36 TheSorcerer : So why is everyone taking the piss out of mahan and not some majors like Qantas as mentioned above? Because many people see it as "one of those shitt
37 TWA902fly : According to that map, Damascus is the capitol of Turkey. '902
38 Post contains images Gr8Circle : I did say that "they ALL need to get their act together" .......
39 Zoom530 : WHAT???????????? NO KOSHER MEALS??????????
40 Sevenforeseven : To answer the original question, NO NEVER, I will not fly them. I would rather walk or swim.
41 Senorcarnival : And here I was, foolishly thinking all along that Dubai was on the coast... Some of you guys need to lighten up. People are just having a laugh at the
42 Baw716 : To be sure, there are a number of things wrong with the website. That said, it simply means that whoever contracted to have the website made was going
43 Post contains links Malmoaviation : "Mahan Air is a member of International Air Transport Association (IATA)." source Well, I'm not sure but if they are a member of IATA they cannot be t
44 TheSorcerer : Sorry, i didn't only mean you, i meant other people in this thread as well. Dominic
45 Crosscountry : Hey...just a light hearted joke...if you read the whole quote the punch line was there too. Jeez! Sense of humour failure!
46 Gr8Circle : I don't think such mistakes can be waved away as the poor geography knowledge of the web designer....the company behind any website has to take respo
47 FlyDeltaJets : Thats how the sign in JFK pointing to thier cargo facility is spelled.
48 AmirAA : So silly !!! I pity such reasoning’s !!! Safety doesn’t seem to be a priority, haaaaaaaaaaa !!! What are you talking about, you clearly have no c
49 Don81603 : Considering the "activities" going on in Iran, I found it amusing to see that weapons and explosive devises are banned from Iran. Did someone forget t
50 Post contains images AGM100 : Very Good !! Ya , I think I would take the Caravan from the Nothern deserts. I Wonder if they offer Kosher meals ??
51 FlySSC : Who cares ? Anyway, they do serve you a nice meal and free drinks, with a smile, on a 1 hour domestic flight, which is far from being the case on any
52 777fan : I'm not sure if you're coming or going here but will agree that you're right, I have no idea about Mahan's safety standards. US-imposed sanctions sho
53 AmirAA : I love it when i read posts like the above if only to thank god that im not as ignorant as some. If you only think for a second, you will remember th
54 777fan : American-made engines that won't be able to be serviced as often as they need be because of the sanctions! I wouldn't fly Mahan, just like I wouldn't
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