Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Air New Zealand - Star Alliance Scheme  
User currently offlinePurpleBox From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 325 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3966 times:

As far as I can tell NZ only has a single aircraft in the Star Alliance scheme - A320 ZK-OJH.

Is this the only one in the fleet and if so why arn't there any others - will we see one of the new B777's in the Star Scheme?

PurpleBox.


Next Flights:STH-ATH-STN (A3), BHX-INV-BHX(BE), LCY-FRA-BOG(LH), EZE-FRA-LHR(LH)
16 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4832 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3877 times:

It is the only a/c in the star alliance theme. I believe the star requirement is to have a % of your seats (in NZ case that comes out to 100 or so seats) so an A320. Larger airlines % would mean they need a 767 or 777 etc depending on how large they are. With new aircraft coming online I'd image that eventually a T7 or 787 will wear the scheme when the star A320 gets a new paint coat.


56 types. 38 countries. 24 airlines.
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12167 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3706 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
FORUM MODERATOR

Last time I asked an NZ employee (who knows alot about NZ ops etc), he said NZ is only having ZK-OJH, and doesn't plan on painting another in the colour scheme. Thou it would be nice to have both a long haul and a short haul (IMO maybe a B772, as they also operate nearly every International flight except Pacific Islands and say a B733 or a regional turbo-prop)

User currently offlineSunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4988 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3598 times:

Just so happens I was on Hwy 427 just north of YYZ yesterday afternoon about 1530EST and a LOT aircraft (767-300ER??) in the Star Alliance scheme was on final approach. It looked smart.

User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4832 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 5 days ago) and read 3556 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 2):
Last time I asked an NZ employee (who knows alot about NZ ops etc), he said NZ is only having ZK-OJH, and doesn't plan on painting another in the colour scheme. Thou it would be nice to have both a long haul and a short haul (IMO maybe a B772, as they also operate nearly every International flight except Pacific Islands and say a B733 or a regional turbo-prop)

Yes it is very unlikely that NZ would paint 2 aircraft in Star scheme. In fact I think Star have a minimum a/c size requirement for the scheme, so no turboprops I'd imagine. Btw 772 will be operating to some Pacific Islands soon. Fiji is the first destination I hear.



56 types. 38 countries. 24 airlines.
User currently offlineMagic48 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 5 days ago) and read 3529 times:

I believe Star members are allowed to paint one aircraft of each type in the special scheme. However, repainting an aircraft when it's not really necessary doesn't contribute to economic thinking...

User currently offlinePurpleBox From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3466 times:

Quoting Magic48 (Reply 5):
However, repainting an aircraft when it's not really necessary doesn't contribute to economic thinking...

Yes - agreed - but one of the new T7's or one of the recently 'D' checked B747's would have been good candidates surely.

They must have decided not to do it - but why?

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 4):
Star have a minimum a/c size requirement for the scheme, so no turboprops I'd imagine.

Are you sure? BMI have E145's in the Star Scheme.

What's the the smallest type - anybody?

PurpleBox.

[Edited 2006-03-20 20:27:32]

[Edited 2006-03-20 20:29:09]


Next Flights:STH-ATH-STN (A3), BHX-INV-BHX(BE), LCY-FRA-BOG(LH), EZE-FRA-LHR(LH)
User currently offlineMagic48 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3439 times:

Quoting PurpleBox (Reply 6):
What's the the smallest type - anybody?

The Air Canada Jazz CRJ-200 falls under the same category as the E145. I'd guess this is about the smallest...


User currently offlineXiaotung From New Zealand, joined Jan 2006, 840 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3382 times:

Air New Zealand has been a Star Alliance member since 1999 and its only Star livery a/c was only painted last year or so. I wonder what had taken so long. There was once rumor that Air NZ wanted to leave Star. Does it have something to do with it? And how comfortable is it now for Air NZ in the alliance?

User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2266 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3340 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
FORUM MODERATOR

Quoting PurpleBox (Reply 6):
or one of the recently 'D' checked B747's would have been good candidates surely.

The 744's don't get repainted on D Checks, only on condition.

NZ1


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4832 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3299 times:

Quoting Xiaotung (Reply 8):
Air New Zealand has been a Star Alliance member since 1999 and its only Star livery a/c was only painted last year or so. I wonder what had taken so long. There was once rumor that Air NZ wanted to leave Star. Does it have something to do with it? And how comfortable is it now for Air NZ in the alliance?

I don't know about previously but I understand that NZ is very happy with Star. Possible rollout of other Star features to NZ soon too such as res systems/checkin systems etc. If a deal occurs with QF that could be the only reason I would see NZ leaving Star, even then I doubt it, they would find a way around it.



56 types. 38 countries. 24 airlines.
User currently offlineNzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1522 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3269 times:

One thing about the painting of long haul aircraft is the lack of advertising ... As basically the aircraft could be any airlines in the star alliance exc the small airline titles at the front of the aircraft.. For a small airline like NZ it needs all the publicity it can get at long haul destinations .. NZ is so well know where the A320 flies that it doesnt need to worry so much about the publicity..


"Pride of the pacific"
User currently offlineXiaotung From New Zealand, joined Jan 2006, 840 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3254 times:

Nzrich has a good point. That's probably why SQ does a different Star livery that has clearer brand identity. Maybe NZ could do one like that especially with the Koru tail retained to emphasize its brand in the mean time still show Star membership.

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12167 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3158 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
FORUM MODERATOR

Quoting Xiaotung (Reply 12):

When SQ did that, didn't it cause big problems with the other Star members?


User currently offlinePurpleBox From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3022 times:

Quoting Nzrich (Reply 11):
For a small airline like NZ it needs all the publicity it can get at long haul destinations

OK - but SAA are not even officially in Star yet but they have an A340-600 in the Star Scheme.


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Erezms
View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Mark Tang - HKAEC



PurpleBox.

[Edited 2006-03-21 20:21:14]


Next Flights:STH-ATH-STN (A3), BHX-INV-BHX(BE), LCY-FRA-BOG(LH), EZE-FRA-LHR(LH)
User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4832 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

Quoting PurpleBox (Reply 14):
OK - but SAA are not even officially in Star yet but they have an A340-600 in the Star Scheme.

They have already been accepted however, and that a/c was probably due for a paintcoat so might as well do it then. Its not hard anyways since most airlines have a white paintscheme with just the tails and stripes added. Just remove those two and put Star on instead.



56 types. 38 countries. 24 airlines.
User currently offlinePurpleBox From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2911 times:

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 15):
Its not hard anyways since most airlines have a white paintscheme with just the tails and stripes added.

Yes - a bit like the normal NZ livery. It's not the practicalities that interest me - it's the reasons why.

PurpleBox.



Next Flights:STH-ATH-STN (A3), BHX-INV-BHX(BE), LCY-FRA-BOG(LH), EZE-FRA-LHR(LH)
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Air New Zealand Strategic Alliance? posted Tue May 4 2004 14:05:06 by Motorhussy
Is Air New Zealand Leaving Star Alliance? posted Mon Jun 12 2006 14:10:36 by Reggaebird
Air New Zealand Special Scheme #3? posted Sun Nov 16 2003 03:33:03 by QANTAS747-438
Air New Zealand & Thai May Leave Star! posted Fri Jun 1 2001 22:28:03 by WiLdmanVzla
Air New Zealand Switch Terminals At SFO? posted Sat Nov 11 2006 16:00:55 by SFOFlyer
Air One In Star Alliance? posted Wed Aug 30 2006 00:57:26 by Timetable
Air New Zealand's New Livery? posted Wed Aug 9 2006 07:08:59 by 767ER
Ex-Air New Zealand 747-219s Sold posted Wed Jul 26 2006 03:49:57 by Clippern7471sp
Air New Zealand Link DHC-8 In GRR? posted Sat Jun 24 2006 18:36:02 by KingAir200
Latest Air New Zealand 777 - ZK-OKF posted Fri Jun 23 2006 04:25:23 by UAL747-600