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Malaysia Airlines Axes MAN, VIE, AMD, CCU, PDG...  
User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13735 posts, RR: 19
Posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7524 times:

Malaysia Airlines will drop the following destinations over the next threee months:

Manchester, UK | Ahmedabad, India | Kolkata, India | Xi'an, China | Vienna, Austria | Padang, Indonesia

The airline will downgrade KUL - Chengdu, China to an A332.
The airline will upgrade KUL - Kunming, ??? to an A333.

Frequency reductions on flights to and from:
BKI - PVG | PEN - SIN | KUL - Sandakan, ??? | KUL - NGO | KUL - FRA | KUL - AKL. Reductions will be in stages.

And there are some route changes all going into KUL instead of other Malaysian Airports.

http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news_business.php?id=186835

[Edited 2006-03-20 12:43:29]


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User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7500 times:

Gutted to see them leave MAN  Sad

Hopefully if they ever regain profitablility they may return!



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User currently offlineCandid76 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 731 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7465 times:

Hopefully in time Air Asia will replace MH as Malaysia's main carrier...

User currently offlineChrisrad From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1055 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7393 times:

MAN and VIE are both still in their online schedules
http://ofs.malaysiaairlines.com/

I wonder "if" and when they will do it.



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4915 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6813 times:

Its a shame about MAN but it just leaves the door open for Thai to start a BKK flight


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User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 6688 times:

Absolute shame that MAN flights will be scrapped. I suppose EK haven't made things easier on the MAN-Asia/Oz market.

Good to see that CAI, BEY and DXB have 'survived' the first set of cutbacks.

On a side note, MH's website states their B772s are fitted with F class, however when checking amadeus on the KUL-CAI route it only shows C and Y. Anyone know why?

Horus



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User currently offlinePurpleBox From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 6657 times:

What will they do with the surplus aircraft - get rid of some of the B747's?

Dropping MAN won't be popular here in the North West of England - how I'm I going to go on holiday now...?

PurpleBox.



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24822 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 6640 times:

The MAN slack can be taken up by Emirates (upgrading evening flight to 77W), Singapore Airlines (rumoured to be upping to Daily nonstop 773ERs), Etihad (starting daily A332 flights), Qatar (increasing to daily A330s) etc


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User currently offlinePurpleBox From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 6579 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 7):
The MAN slack can be taken up by Emirates (upgrading evening flight to 77W), Singapore Airlines (rumoured to be upping to Daily nonstop 773ERs),

Emirates - I flew them to AKL at Christmas - the FA's on the MAN-DXB and DXB-MAN were awful (just plain rude!) but the FA's on the DXB-MEL-AKL and SYD-DXB A345's were good. MH and SQ are always good so I guess it's SQ now.

PurpleBox.

[Edited 2006-03-20 21:42:33]


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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13735 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6451 times:

I suppose Singapore Airlines now has a near monopoly MAN - SE Asia!

This is a sad blow however for Manchester Airports Group.




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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7211 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6358 times:

If they close these routes, then it not going to be easy to expand when the A380 arrives.

User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2088 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6243 times:

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 9):
I suppose Singapore Airlines now has a near monopoly MAN - SE Asia!

This is a sad blow however for Manchester Airports Group.

SQ now has a total monopoly on MAN - SE Asia! CX is postponed until later this year, and TG are concentrating on regional services just for the time-being, and not MAN and TXL just yet.

Every cloud has a silver lining.......

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 7):
The MAN slack can be taken up by Emirates (upgrading evening flight to 77W), Singapore Airlines (rumoured to be upping to Daily nonstop 773ERs), Etihad (starting daily A332 flights), Qatar (increasing to daily A330s) etc

Nice reassuring words there  Wink


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7529 posts, RR: 43
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6125 times:

I am surprised that EZE-KUL via South Africa was spared. MH must be turning a profit in that route, because their website always quotes stratospheric fares for those flights.


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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4738 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6065 times:

On a side note, MH's website states their B772s are fitted with F class, however when checking amadeus on the KUL-CAI route it only shows C and Y. Anyone know why?

Despite their 777s still fitted with PCL, they only sell seats on JCL. If you are lucky, you purchase a JCL ticket and get to sit all the way in seat 1A, in the wide comfort of a PCL seat. The reconfiguration will take a while...



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User currently offlineA2 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5985 times:

Will there be more cuts announced in the coming weeks or months?

Going by the number of routes they claimed to be unprofitable, these cuts do not seem drastic enough. What are they going to do with EZE route?

-A2


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4716 posts, RR: 44
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5889 times:

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 11):
SQ now has a total monopoly on MAN - SE Asia!

nopes...Emirates has a sizeable market share of pax heading ONE STOP via DXB to the Far East and Australia from MAN.

Its faster flying EK via DXB to PVG, KIX, HKG, BKK than it is on SQ!!!


User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2088 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5564 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 15):
nopes...Emirates has a sizeable market share of pax heading ONE STOP via DXB to the Far East and Australia from MAN.

Its faster flying EK via DXB to PVG, KIX, HKG, BKK than it is on SQ!!!

I meant direct from MAN to SE Asia........!


User currently offlineQantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1281 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4312 times:

The problem is that MH are not allowed to use Turboprops at KUL, because the airport has a jet only policy.

And MH operate F-50`s and DHC-6 planes from the other airports, but Malaysia is a pretty small country so flights should be aimed more from their HUB to other destinations in Asian and worldwide.

Just my Opinion

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User currently offlineOdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4312 times:

Here are the schedule changes for MH:

Source: Malaysia Airlines

Quote:

Service withdrawals

Effective 1 April 2006
Kuala Lumpur/Ahmedabad return 3 x weekly A330-200 services
Kuala Lumpur/Kolkata return 3 x weekly A330-300 services
Kuching/Pontianak return 3 x weekly Fokker F50 services

Effective 1 May 2006
Kuala Lumpur/Manchester return 4 x weekly B747-400 services
Kuala Lumpur/Padang return 2 x weekly B737-400 services

Effective 1 June 2006
Kuala Lumpur/Vienna return 3 x weekly B777-200 services
Kuala Lumpur/Xian return 2 x weekly A330-200 services

Frequency reductions

Effective 1 May 2006
Kota Kinabalu/Shanghai return 3 x weekly to 2 x weekly B737-400 services
Singapore/Penang return 14 x weekly to 7 x weekly B737-400 services
Kuala Lumpur/Sandakan return 7 x weekly to 4 x weekly B737-400 services

Effective 15 May 2006
Kuala Lumpur/Nagoya return 5 x weekly to 4 x weekly A330-200 services

Effective 31 May 2006
Kuala Lumpur/Frankfurt return 7 x weekly to 5 x weekly B777-200 services

Effective 1 June 2006
Kuala Lumpur/Auckland return 7 x weekly services to 5 x weekly B777-200 services

Routes streamlining

Effective 15 May 2006
Kuala Lumpur/Kota Kinabalu/Tokyo A330-200 service on Friday to operate Kuala Lumpur/Tokyo direct

Tokyo/Kota Kinabalu/Kuala Lumpur B777-200 service on Wednesday to operate Tokyo/Kuala Lumpur direct

Kuala Lumpur/Kota Kinabalu/Osaka B777-200 service on Monday and Saturday to operate Kuala Lumpur/Osaka direct

Service retimings

Effective 1 May 2006
Kuala Lumpur/Bangkok A330-300 daily flight MH784 retimed departure from 1000 hours to 0850 hours

Bangkok/Kuala Lumpur A330-300 daily flight MH785 retimed departure from 1200 hours to 1050 hours

Singapore/Kuala Lumpur B737-400 daily flight MH614 retimed departure from 2225 hours to 1855 hours

Effective 1 June 2006 Kuala Lumpur/Brisbane B777-200 flight on Monday, Tuesday and Sunday retimed departure from 0940 hours to 2330 hours

Brisbane/Kuala Lumpur B777-200 flight on Tuesday, Wednesday and Monday retimed departure from 2350 hours to 1400 hours


[Edited 2006-03-21 08:39:30]

User currently offlineMAS777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2935 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2651 times:

Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 17):
The problem is that MH are not allowed to use Turboprops at KUL, because the airport has a jet only policy.

And MH operate F-50`s and DHC-6 planes from the other airports, but Malaysia is a pretty small country so flights should be aimed more from their HUB to other destinations in Asian and worldwide.

No - Riau Airlines operates a F50 to Sumatra from KUL. It is however the only prop operator at the airport.

No - MH only operates F50s and DHC6s in Borneo and not on the Peninsula. I disagree that Malaysia is a pretty small country - given the fact that it takes and 1.75hrs to fly to Kuching and over 2.5hrs to fly to Kota Kinabalu from KUL.


User currently offlineOnedude From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2471 times:

Interesting to see that Kota Kinablulu has been dropped, similar to AO a few months back. There is just no market for direct flights to this destination.

User currently offlineTsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

Quoting OdiE (Reply 18):
Singapore/Penang return 14 x weekly to 7 x weekly B737-400 services

Its very funny for MH to cut down SIN/PEN flights to 7x B734 services while SQ manages to sustain 21X B777 services on the same route.



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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8493 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2427 times:
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Quoting Onedude (Reply 20):
Interesting to see that Kota Kinablulu has been dropped, similar to AO a few months back. There is just no market for direct flights to this destination.



sadly I have to agree - even though Sabah is a fantastic adventure destination it is too low yield because it is all cheapskates like me who go there



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User currently offlineStarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2387 times:

Quoting Candid76 (Reply 2):
Hopefully in time Air Asia will replace MH as Malaysia's main carrier

I hope not. Long haul budget airlines is one thing the industry doesnt need.
Anyone remember that Backpackers express plan ?

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User currently offlineCandid76 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 731 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2349 times:

I do remember as Backpackers Express intended to serve MAN. Air Asia might also be minded to reinstate the service - one of their aircraft promotes Manchester United, so there is a link of sorts. I have no absolutely no desire to fly to anywhere from London, so the flight I took from MAN to KUL, SIN and Bali a couple of years ago with MH will be my last with them.

User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24822 posts, RR: 56
Reply 25, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2343 times:

Quoting Candid76 (Reply 24):
one of their aircraft promotes Manchester United

Aye, but I have a feeling an A320 might struggle to do MAN-KUL without stopping at least 4 times  Wink



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