FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 15 Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 2432 times:
Pan Am took delivery of 45 first-tier 747s...33 -121s, 2 -221Fs and 10 -SP21s. The 2 freighters are still with JAL as far as I know of. Most of the -121s are retired and/or written off, with one example I know of flying with GE Engines as a testbed...still with its P&W engines. And the -SPs? Try http://www.747sp.com
Hope this helps. Regards.
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AADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1831 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 16 hours ago) and read 1970 times:
Does anyone know what was the last ex-PanAm 747 in passenger service? Was it Tower Air? UA perhaps?
I remember a book mentioning that some 747s were sold to UA along with the Pacific routes. When UA received the planes, they circled the dings in the nacelles with a red marker and several UA execs. complained that the planes looked like they had acne.
DETA737 From Portugal, joined Oct 2000, 596 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 1777 times:
Quoting RandyWaldron (Reply 10): I think by the early 1990s PanAm was interested in the A340. I remember because I started a thread a few years ago and a few memebers stated that PanAm was going to order some before they went under.
By the time the 747-400 was being developed Pan Am had already sold its Pacific routes. I believe the reason that they were looking at A340s and A333s as replacements for the 747-100s was because these had become a bit too large for many European and Latin American routes. Also the A310s were too small in some instances and did not have the range to fly certain routes nonstop. Also at the time Airbus was probably willing to offer PA a great price for the planes just to get such a high profile order, and after all they had already ordered the A320s.
Clipper002 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 671 posts, RR: 14 Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 1562 times:
My apologies. I should have stated my post differently. It was in response to a post that stated that Pan Am was interested in the A340 in the early 1990's. Pan Am was on the brink of disaster in 1990 and couldn't afford much of anything. The plan to keep Pan Am flying eliminated all of the fleet with the exception of some 727's and A-300's with MIA being the main base of operations.
MrFord From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 140 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 1497 times:
Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 12): Thank you, best I change the comment next to the picture of it at SYD in my profile. I wasn't aware that 742s had 3 window upper decks. My error for thinking it to be a 741.
I think he means that N742PA, a 747-121 s/n 18, was scrapped
But yes, some 747-200s were ordered with the original 3 upper deck windows (KLM's P&W ones for example)