Flyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3883 times:
Yes it is great news. I have the same feelings about red-eyes, though last time I took one I was able to sleep most of the way so it wasn't too bad. I'm suprised at how many people do like them though. Hopefully it will do well!
HPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3661 posts, RR: 8 Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3726 times:
Actually that time is probably not correct yet. If so, then an A320 will somehow magically appear here in PDX for the outbound.
I just heard they threw an arbitrary inbound time in, just so they could put the route up for sale. Routing will work out a correct arrival time later.
However, it will not be a turn, it will be a through routing PHX-PDX-PHL but with flight numbers changing. That said, it's looking like one of our morning flights (numbers for now are 81 and 337) will be upgraded to A320 from an A319 or 733 respectively.
Not that it matters to anyone else, but that will GREATLY help out our cargo situation
Flyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3633 times:
Interesting though about the westbound flights, it seems that with the recent announcements, the new merged company will be flying late PHL westbound flights with HP metal, besides this new PDX flight, a SEA nonstop was also announced about the same time on HP metal. So, as an inbound, where do the HP flights come in from. All about the 8pm hour, PHL will have a LAS/SEA/PDX flight westbound on HP metal, but where do the a/c come in from, only one arrival from PHX shows as HP 259 arriving at 719pm, but how about the other a/c?
While I don't disagree, the same could be said for RIC-PHX, BUF-PHX, ALB-PHX, GSP-PHX and so on. Thing is, these (including PVD) are all small cities with big dreamers. Not that that's bad, but it sort of makes me chuckle. It seems that more and more, cities this size are loosing mainline service, replaced by regionals. Also, in PVD's case, BOS is so close and US Airways has many options as far as nonstop flights. But, as I have always been told, if you don't first concieve the dream, it will never come to pass
RobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 890 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3402 times:
Quoting PVD757 (Reply 9): well, this sure gets me thinking that a PVD-PHX COULD still be in the works. PHL-PDX was probably the most obvious holes in the combined HP/US network and it's great to see them plugging it.
WN already serves PHX-PVD twice a day with nonstop flights.
Steeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 8804 posts, RR: 19 Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3296 times:
Quoting RwSEA (Reply 15): The flight gets to PHL around 7am, but most of the flights to Europe depart in the late afternoon/early evening.
Ok, that's what I thought. I didn't want to make another inaccurate post only to look foolish...
Perhaps they could change that redeye to like a morning flight between 8 and 10 am... That way, the flight will get into PHL between 4 and 6, and you're not wasting a whole day in a crowded terminal with nothing to do except for to lose one's sanity...
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FCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6 Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3159 times:
Plus the red-eye is well-timed for the Caribbean bank.
It's not like this is the only flight they're ever going to run PHL-PDX. I'm sure that as scheduling is worked out, fleet utilization improved and the management gets a sense of loads on the route, they'll look at a morning eastbound departure to Philly. One flight is a start
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HPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3661 posts, RR: 8 Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3017 times:
Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 14): An eastbound 5-hour flight in the middle of the night, what fun.
I like night flights...I find it fascinating to see the city and highway lights, and try to identify them. And if you feel like sleeping, that's easier at night as well.
Quoting RwSEA (Reply 15): The flight gets to PHL around 7am, but most of the flights to Europe depart in the late afternoon/early evening. However, coming back from Europe the flights will be well-timed.
Going out it connects well for Caribbean flights, coming in it connects well for the Europe flights. Remember, this isn't even counting the O&D between PHL and PDX, of which there is a decent amount. If WN can make PDX-ABQ work, then we can absolutely make PDX-PHL work.
Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 16): Perhaps they could change that redeye to like a morning flight between 8 and 10 am...
We are already loaded in the morning as it is. Starting in under two weeks we get another flight PDX-LAS on mainline around 8:30, we already have a flight to PHX at 8:15 and we have an inbound from PHX usually between 9:50 and 10:20 depending on ETA. That doesn't give us much room to maneuver...we only have one gate! One delay would mess up the whole system. However, a second dedicated gate is being looked at
Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 18): they'll look at a morning eastbound departure to Philly. One flight is a start
It's already being talked about, I'm hearing a likely start date, if anything, shortly prior to this year's holiday travel season (probably very much depending on the performance of this new flight). After that, a CLT flight would be next, and I believe that would be quite successful as we would only have to compete with DL's high fares to that entire section of the country.
Usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3097 posts, RR: 8 Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2984 times:
Does PHL even have much of a caribbean bank anymore. I look at the arriving flts today and it's pretty much SJU, CUN, MBJ, NAS, STT, PUJ, SXM, and AUA, some of which are scattered throughout the day. It's only a total of about 12 flts a day to the caribbean, that number used to be 20. I'm sure its more on the weekend but it seems that US is really banking on O&D to these destinations and not trying to connect paxs. Sure some paxs connect to these flts, but it seems that US isn't trying to create PHL into a Caribbean connection point like it used to.
Aircop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2955 times:
Quoting RwSEA (Reply 15): However, coming back from Europe the flights will be well-timed.
I don't think so. Most of the Europe flights are back in Philly by 1500hrs, awaiting another five hours doesn't make much sense. And again the caribbean so you can connect going, but whats the purpose if you have to overnight on the way back?
Flyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2709 times:
Yes great point...I can't wait to see what other connect the dots we do. I'm suprised they started this already considering they said they wouldn't do any route changes until the certificates were combined...but I guess they are doing what makes sense.