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US Announces New Service PHL-PDX  
User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5306 times:

Wow, I guess you weren't crazy HPRamper! hehehe Awesome news!

http://www.americawest.com/awa/conte...rrelations/investor_relations.aspx

US Airways will provide the service (operated by America West) with the Airbus A320 aircraft, which has capacity for 150 passengers (12 first class and 138 coach class).

The new flight schedule is below:

Philadelphia to Portland, Ore.
Flight Departs Arrives
950 8:30 p.m. 11:25 p.m.

Portland, Ore to Philadelphia
Flight Departs Arrives
951 10:45 p.m. 06:50 a.m. (+1)


(+1) Indicates a next day arrival

[Edited 2006-03-20 15:59:20]

[Edited 2006-03-20 16:06:10]

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User currently offlineUPSMD11 From United States of America, joined May 2003, 816 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5281 times:
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That is great news, I have always had to fly DL or UA to Portland and would prefer my favorite carrier, US, for this route.

The only bad thing is just a red-eye back east, which I despise!

John


User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5271 times:

Yes it is great news. I have the same feelings about red-eyes, though last time I took one I was able to sleep most of the way so it wasn't too bad. I'm suprised at how many people do like them though. Hopefully it will do well!

Now we can speculate on the next new route...haha


User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4097 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5269 times:

Hey, I was right about that weird schedule too   Only thing I got wrong was my guess at an A319.

Next rumor regarding PDX....CLT!

[Edited 2006-03-20 16:13:45]

User currently offlineCltguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5247 times:

Yes, I think a PDX-CLT flight would do well. There is a strong business connection between the cities with Freightliner and Nike.

User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3177 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5206 times:

What a strange timings! I suppose the plane isn't sitting 23 hours on the tamrac, but how is that rotation going?

User currently offlineThegooddoctor From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 523 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5139 times:

[quote=Joost,reply=5]What a strange timings! I suppose the plane isn't sitting 23 hours on the tamrac, but how is that rotation going?


Since it's HP metal, it will rotate off of the RON's from PHX/LAS - PDX flights.



The GoodDoctor
User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4097 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5114 times:

Actually that time is probably not correct yet. If so, then an A320 will somehow magically appear here in PDX for the outbound.

I just heard they threw an arbitrary inbound time in, just so they could put the route up for sale. Routing will work out a correct arrival time later.

However, it will not be a turn, it will be a through routing PHX-PDX-PHL but with flight numbers changing. That said, it's looking like one of our morning flights (numbers for now are 81 and 337) will be upgraded to A320 from an A319 or 733 respectively.

Not that it matters to anyone else, but that will GREATLY help out our cargo situation Big grin


User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5021 times:

Interesting though about the westbound flights, it seems that with the recent announcements, the new merged company will be flying late PHL westbound flights with HP metal, besides this new PDX flight, a SEA nonstop was also announced about the same time on HP metal. So, as an inbound, where do the HP flights come in from. All about the 8pm hour, PHL will have a LAS/SEA/PDX flight westbound on HP metal, but where do the a/c come in from, only one arrival from PHX shows as HP 259 arriving at 719pm, but how about the other a/c?

User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3418 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4973 times:

well, this sure gets me thinking that a PVD-PHX COULD still be in the works. PHL-PDX was probably the most obvious holes in the combined HP/US network and it's great to see them plugging it.

User currently offlineJetboy319 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4855 times:

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 9):
PVD-PHX COULD still be in the works

While I don't disagree, the same could be said for RIC-PHX, BUF-PHX, ALB-PHX, GSP-PHX and so on. Thing is, these (including PVD) are all small cities with big dreamers. Not that that's bad, but it sort of makes me chuckle. It seems that more and more, cities this size are loosing mainline service, replaced by regionals. Also, in PVD's case, BOS is so close and US Airways has many options as far as nonstop flights. But, as I have always been told, if you don't first concieve the dream, it will never come to pass  Smile


User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3118 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4836 times:

Good to see the flight, but I agree that the red-eye is too bad. This won't make it much easier for PDX passengers to connect to US's flights to Europe.

User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4790 times:
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Quoting PVD757 (Reply 9):
well, this sure gets me thinking that a PVD-PHX COULD still be in the works. PHL-PDX was probably the most obvious holes in the combined HP/US network and it's great to see them plugging it.

WN already serves PHX-PVD twice a day with nonstop flights.


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4779 times:

US PDX-PHL (by Doug_Or Mar 8 2006 in Civil Aviation)


no need for two.... 's not that big a deal, is it?



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9262 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4735 times:

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 11):
Good to see the flight, but I agree that the red-eye is too bad. This won't make it much easier for PDX passengers to connect to US's flights to Europe.

An eastbound 5-hour flight in the middle of the night, what fun. When do the US-European flights depart from PHL?



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User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3118 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4691 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 14):
An eastbound 5-hour flight in the middle of the night, what fun. When do the US-European flights depart from PHL

The flight gets to PHL around 7am, but most of the flights to Europe depart in the late afternoon/early evening. However, coming back from Europe the flights will be well-timed.


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9262 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4684 times:

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 15):
The flight gets to PHL around 7am, but most of the flights to Europe depart in the late afternoon/early evening.

Ok, that's what I thought. I didn't want to make another inaccurate post only to look foolish...

Perhaps they could change that redeye to like a morning flight between 8 and 10 am... That way, the flight will get into PHL between 4 and 6, and you're not wasting a whole day in a crowded terminal with nothing to do except for to lose one's sanity...  crazy 



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User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4603 times:

There's enough O&D traffic that I think it will do ok even without alot of international connections. However there will be tons of domestic cities it will connect to out of Philly.

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 13):
no need for two.... 's not that big a deal, is it?

Of course it is!!!  Smile


User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4547 times:

Plus the red-eye is well-timed for the Caribbean bank.

It's not like this is the only flight they're ever going to run PHL-PDX. I'm sure that as scheduling is worked out, fleet utilization improved and the management gets a sense of loads on the route, they'll look at a morning eastbound departure to Philly. One flight is a start  Smile



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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4097 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4405 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 14):
An eastbound 5-hour flight in the middle of the night, what fun.

I like night flights...I find it fascinating to see the city and highway lights, and try to identify them. And if you feel like sleeping, that's easier at night as well.

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 15):
The flight gets to PHL around 7am, but most of the flights to Europe depart in the late afternoon/early evening. However, coming back from Europe the flights will be well-timed.

Going out it connects well for Caribbean flights, coming in it connects well for the Europe flights. Remember, this isn't even counting the O&D between PHL and PDX, of which there is a decent amount. If WN can make PDX-ABQ work, then we can absolutely make PDX-PHL work.

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 16):
Perhaps they could change that redeye to like a morning flight between 8 and 10 am...

We are already loaded in the morning as it is. Starting in under two weeks we get another flight PDX-LAS on mainline around 8:30, we already have a flight to PHX at 8:15 and we have an inbound from PHX usually between 9:50 and 10:20 depending on ETA. That doesn't give us much room to maneuver...we only have one gate! One delay would mess up the whole system. However, a second dedicated gate is being looked at  crossfingers 

Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 18):
they'll look at a morning eastbound departure to Philly. One flight is a start

It's already being talked about, I'm hearing a likely start date, if anything, shortly prior to this year's holiday travel season (probably very much depending on the performance of this new flight). After that, a CLT flight would be next, and I believe that would be quite successful as we would only have to compete with DL's high fares to that entire section of the country.


User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3454 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4372 times:

Does PHL even have much of a caribbean bank anymore. I look at the arriving flts today and it's pretty much SJU, CUN, MBJ, NAS, STT, PUJ, SXM, and AUA, some of which are scattered throughout the day. It's only a total of about 12 flts a day to the caribbean, that number used to be 20. I'm sure its more on the weekend but it seems that US is really banking on O&D to these destinations and not trying to connect paxs. Sure some paxs connect to these flts, but it seems that US isn't trying to create PHL into a Caribbean connection point like it used to.

User currently offlineAircop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4343 times:

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 15):
However, coming back from Europe the flights will be well-timed.

I don't think so. Most of the Europe flights are back in Philly by 1500hrs, awaiting another five hours doesn't make much sense. And again the caribbean so you can connect going, but whats the purpose if you have to overnight on the way back?


User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4330 times:

You guys do know that US isn't only catering to the Caribbean and Europe banks....they do fly to more cities than that out of PHL.  wink 

-SOAC



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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4097 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4233 times:

So true  Smile Sure cuts down on connecting time, not having to go all the way down to PHX just to get to BOS or BUF or wherever.

User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4097 times:

Yes great point...I can't wait to see what other connect the dots we do. I'm suprised they started this already considering they said they wouldn't do any route changes until the certificates were combined...but I guess they are doing what makes sense.

25 Ca2ohHP : Rumor?? Ok, next fact...YVR-PHL.
26 HPRamper : Isn't that starting shortly, along with the extra SEA-PHL?
27 Ca2ohHP : Yes, I believe June or July, my mind is drawing a blank. Nothing is loaded into SHARES yet.
28 Flyboyaz : Was there a filing with the DOT? I'm not sure how to look that information up, but maybe someone else does.
29 Vega : Here are the current Carribbean routes: CLT: (17) AUA BGI BZE GCM GUA LIR MBJ NAS PLS PUJ SJO SJU SKB STT STX SXM UVF PHL: (15) ANU AUA BGI GCM MBJ N
30 Usairways85 : PHL SJO-sat only ANU-sat only BGI-sat only PLS-sat only GCM-sat only SKB-sat only SDQ-sat only About half of PHL's caribbean destinations operate only
31 Steeler83 : You actually did include Guatemala-La Aurora...
32 Vega : True, but the Title of this thread is PDX-PHL. The intent of my listing was to show that PDX passengers could connect to the Carribean via the PHL fl
33 Usairways85 : Yes sorry i am getting too off topic But my response was in regard to some people saying the PDX flt is well timed for connections to Caribbean flts.
34 HPRamper : The Caribbean connections are probably incidental, and will just keep loads on Saturday up to the weekday load standard. I'm confident loads would be
35 Usairways85 : Out of curiousity what will the routing be for the HP 320? Will it fly PDX-PHL-PHX? Could also do PDX-PHL-LAS. The current morning PHL-PHX flt is a A3
36 Stirling : According to the Port of Portland....77,000 passengers travel between PDX and PHX daily. That is 210 per day....enough if there were no connections be
37 Post contains images HPRamper : I think you meant PHL, not PHX, and yearly, not daily Uh oh, are we going to hijack this into a general PDX news thread? hehe.
38 FCYTravis : It will fly, as best as I can figure it, a PHL-PDX-PHL turn, and be back in time for an 8:10 a.m. flight to Vegas.
39 Stirling : Jeez, my post was all jacked up! Yes, I meant PHL. And Annually. And I had to hijack it back into something vaguely resembling PDX, and not the nuance
40 HPRamper : Speaking of Pago Pago, I finally found out that secret not-ready-for-release Pacific destination. Oh, it's not Pago Pago but that reminded me.
41 Flyboyaz : Oh!! Tell me, tell me....lol. I don't get company email anymore so I don't see the schedule proposals...argh.
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