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Midwest Adds Service To San Francisco  
User currently offlineDaus From United States of America, joined May 2005, 287 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 4739 times:

Midwest Airlines Inc. will launch non-stop seasonal service between Milwaukee and San Francisco on June 1, the Oak Creek-based carrier said today.

Midwest will provide one departure daily from Mitchell International Airport through Sept. 30. The flights will feature the airline's Saver Service, which offers affordable fares to leisure destinations. Seating is arranged in a two-by-three configuration.

Midwest Airlines is part of public held Midwest Air Group Inc. (MEH)

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....l-newsArticle&ID=833487&highlight=

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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5890 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 4717 times:
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Midwest Express used to have a seasonal daily nonstop between SFO and MKE when they obtained a pair of MD-88's way back when.

User currently offlineDaus From United States of America, joined May 2005, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week ago) and read 4699 times:

Correct. Lately you had to make a stop at MCI to get to SFO. There are more flight additions mentioned in the press release:

Additionally, seven markets will benefit from the frequency additions:
-- Milwaukee-Baltimore, increasing to 3 roundtrip flights each weekday
-- Milwaukee-Denver, increasing to 4 roundtrip flights each weekday
-- Milwaukee-Kansas City, increasing to 7 roundtrip flights each weekday
-- Kansas City-Boston, increasing to 2 roundtrip flights daily
-- Kansas City-Los Angeles, increasing to 3 roundtrip flights each
weekday
-- Kansas City-New York La Guardia, increasing to 4 roundtrip flights
each weekday
-- Kansas City-San Diego, increasing to 2 roundtrip flights daily


User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4527 times:

Its nice to see YX continuing to expand. Now if only they would come to SJC...

User currently offlinePhuebner From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 244 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4508 times:

It sounds that they are solidifying their position at MCI.


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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6087 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4494 times:

This has been a yearly (seasonal flight). They have flown MKE all the time during the summer. Once they started the MCI flights, they made MKE seasonal. Alaska ground handled YX years ago on the SFO-MKE flights, hhmmmm cookies!

ASLAX



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4364 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4458 times:
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MKE-SFO on an MD-80? I would think that would be stretching its range.

Quoting Daus (Reply 2):
-- Kansas City-New York La Guardia, increasing to 4 roundtrip flights
each weekday

How did they get the additional slots (one for landing and one for departure).



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User currently offlineVegasplanes From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 778 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4407 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 6):
MKE-SFO on an MD-80? I would think that would be stretching its range.

Should be no problem.

They run Mad Dogs MKE-LAS, they seem to make it fine, I believe that is a longer route than MKE-SFO.

I suppose these flight annoncements will be where the last of the new 717's go for the most part.


User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5445 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4399 times:

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 3):
Its nice to see YX continuing to expand. Now if only they would come to SJC...

Are you sure you didn't mean SEA?  Big grin

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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4375 posts, RR: 27
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4395 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 6):
MKE-SFO on an MD-80? I would think that would be stretching its range.

Nah, I've flown on it in the past. Like whats been said, this isn't a surprise, and its good to see the route back for summer.



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User currently offlineKnope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2869 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4385 times:

Quoting Vegasplanes (Reply 7):
Quoting Iowaman (Reply 6):
MKE-SFO on an MD-80? I would think that would be stretching its range.

Should be no problem.

They run Mad Dogs MKE-LAS, they seem to make it fine, I believe that is a longer route than MKE-SFO.

I suppose these flight annoncements will be where the last of the new 717's go for the most part.

They will use an M88 on the MKE-SFO run, same as they do for MKE-LAX. The other M80's can do it, but it is a bit of a stretch, esp with up to 147 people instead of the 2x2 capacity of 116. The M88 can do it pretty reliably.

As for the 717's, if I'm not mistaken I believe this schedule expansion is their last delivery. So for the time being, any new growth means trims elsewhere. Note how MKE-SFO plus the added MCI-LAX and MCI-SAN trips are mentioned as "seasonal". When these go in fall we'll see that lift go back to Florida where it is today.


User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4385 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 6):
MKE-SFO on an MD-80? I would think that would be stretching its range.

It's actually a mile shorter per the GC mapper than ORD-SFO, which AA operates at least a couple of times a day with MD-80's if not more often than that.

Steve


User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4350 times:

Random thought, so stick with me (and don't grill me!)...

With Midwest's high(er) service levels than the majors, do you think they would be able to attract traffic and profitably operate any Trans-Atlantic or Trans-Pacific services? Thinking along the lines of building on this "premium" image, feeding the longhaul MCI flights?

Thinking classes including SaverService, Signature, and then something along the lines of a Premium Business.

I understand how expensive it is to introduce a new type, crew costs, spares, blah blah, I'm just asking theoretically if they would be able to feed it well.

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineLayzhon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4335 times:

Also on AA ORD to SAN on MD-80 like 5x daily, never any problems

User currently offlineMikesairways From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 689 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4303 times:
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Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 3):
Its nice to see YX continuing to expand. Now if only they would come to SJC...

Thank you - you couldn't have said it any better



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User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4127 times:

Quoting FLY777UAL (Reply 12):
With Midwest's high(er) service levels than the majors, do you think they would be able to attract traffic and profitably operate any Trans-Atlantic or Trans-Pacific services? Thinking along the lines of building on this "premium" image, feeding the longhaul MCI flights?

I doubt it. Midwest's niche is in being a premium domestic carrier - key word being domestic. There are already a pantload of international transoceanic carriers, a number of whom provide a product on those routes that could be considered equal or above that of YX.

Not to mention the fact that such an expansion, in realistic terms, would literally be decades down the road.



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User currently offlinePhuebner From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 244 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3985 times:

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14151884.htm

Article just came out in the KC Star about Midwest adding flights there.



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User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2439 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3880 times:

Quoting Daus (Thread starter):
Midwest Airlines Inc. will launch non-stop seasonal service between Milwaukee and San Francisco on June 1

Good to see this route back. Isn't the MCI-SFO really MKE-MCI-SFO-MCI-MKE???

Quoting Daus (Reply 2):
Additionally, seven markets will benefit from the frequency additions:
-- Milwaukee-Baltimore, increasing to 3 roundtrip flights each weekday
-- Milwaukee-Denver, increasing to 4 roundtrip flights each weekday
-- Milwaukee-Kansas City, increasing to 7 roundtrip flights each weekday
-- Kansas City-Boston, increasing to 2 roundtrip flights daily
-- Kansas City-Los Angeles, increasing to 3 roundtrip flights each
weekday
-- Kansas City-New York La Guardia, increasing to 4 roundtrip flights
each weekday
-- Kansas City-San Diego, increasing to 2 roundtrip flights daily

I'm glad to see that the new routes outta MCI are doing so well that they keep gettin upgraded. Being a YX fan it gets me kinda down that there will not be any expanding for a while now unless they get those extra 328 jets.



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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6087 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3856 times:

Mke717...no, they are 2 different flights.

Flight 918 MKE-MCI-SFO
Flight 923 MKE-SFO *non-stop

Flight 924 SFO-MKE *non-stop
Flight 921 SFO-MCI-MKE

ASLAX



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User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2439 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3799 times:

Quoting AS739X (Reply 18):
Mke717...no, they are 2 different flights.

I was talking about the MCI-SFO flight.



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User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3793 times:

Good to hear them expanding. For a while they seemed to be hanging on by a thread. Sounds to me like they plan to make MCI a focus city.

Too bad they cant get anymore 717's unless they come from FL. I wonder if they had thought about picking up the 737 at all, like FL did?



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User currently offlineAkeytravel From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3771 times:

To add from Wedgetail737 they have had this flight on from time to time and they added a MCI-SFO flight a while back so this really isn't a new route.

User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5890 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3771 times:
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Blah...SJC. SJC's economy isn't doing very well. Midwest should fly to SEA where the economy out here is booming!

It's good to see YX expanding. Perhaps this is a sign that YX is turning the corner.

Before, the MD-80's used on the SFO-MKE route (in the past) had the "Signature" layout... This was well before they had the "Saver" flights.


User currently offlineVivavegas From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 505 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days ago) and read 3688 times:

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 22):
Perhaps this is a sign that YX is turning the corner.

Stock hit 52-week high today... Up over 500% since last May...

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=MEH&t=1y

Still sticking to my no aviation stock policy though...

Craig
MKE



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User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2352 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days ago) and read 3672 times:

The Saver aircraft are notoriously unreliable and consistantly late. I fly them alot and it drives me nuts! Adding another route MKE to SFO will make it even worse. They gotta do something about those 81's and 88's.

25 Planespotting : My airline stocks are up an average of 19.2% from the basis. The industry is volatile, yes, but there are good investments out there: LUV purchase pr
26 AS739X : Mke717...I see what you are saying now. Yeah the summer schedule looks that way, but its not always. When I worked back at SFO I remember the inbound
27 Steeler83 : I think it is going to be both the new and last 717s coming online as well as some increased utilization. They are one of the better airlines in the
28 Sideflare75 : The SFO flight is being added for the summer using aircraft that are currently flying to Florida right now. Also some of the new 717 routes are using
29 Post contains images Daus : Given some of the pricing I am seeing for a trip I want to make in April on YX to somehwere warm, I'm guessing it will be sooner.
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