UAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 7396 times:
Ran across this on the web. As far as I know, it's the only video out there taken from inside the cabin with an engine fire. Anyone know any information about it?
WesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5395 posts, RR: 25 Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 7385 times:
It was also on a video made by a PEX 747 capt way back in the 80s, I think Sportys still sells it, since thats where I bought it.
Woohoo! Back to Beirut in Oct '13! (Along with a stop in DOH for 4 days)
PWM2TXLHopper From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1218 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 7370 times:
The date on the video shows the year being 1988, didn't CO take over PEX in 1987? Also, noted a service truck with CO insignia. Was this aircraft an Ex-PEX bird operated by CO at the time?
WesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5395 posts, RR: 25 Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 7333 times:
Quoting PWM2TXLHopper (Reply 2): The date on the video shows the year being 1988, didn't CO take over PEX in 1987? Also, noted a service truck with CO insignia. Was this aircraft an Ex-PEX bird operated by CO at the time?
PEX was taken over in late 1986 and folded into CO in 1987, the video was being edited and whatnot from 1987 until early 1988 and then released straight to VHS.
Woohoo! Back to Beirut in Oct '13! (Along with a stop in DOH for 4 days)
FlightShadow From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 862 posts, RR: 7 Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 6860 times:
The climb performance of the elderly 747 with one engine-out was so poor that the aircraft dissapeared behind trees on departure. ATC actually activated the crash alarm because they believed the aircraft had gone down just outside the airport.
777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3036 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 6569 times:
Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter): Ran across this on the web. As far as I know, it's the only video out there taken from inside the cabin with an engine fire. Anyone know any information about it?
PhilB From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 14 Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 6500 times:
The video was taken aboard a Continental flight ex Gatwick in 1988.. The aircraft was still in PeoplExpress colours after the take over.
The aircraft took of in an almost 90 degree cross wind at the limit of its take off envelope and two engines suffered compressor stalls, one minor, which recovered, the other caused a fire and the engine continued to idle.
The amount of right wing down caused by the cross wind and loss of power on the right wing is evident.
The aircraft barely managed to clear Russ Hill at the end of the Gatwick runway.
Once stable flight was established a turn was made and the aircraft dumped fuel off Worthing, over the English Channel but, because power was much reduced, the crew elected to return quickly and the aircraft made an overweight landing.
WesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5395 posts, RR: 25 Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4258 times:
I'd be glad he brought the plane back after a mistake. I've heard thoughthat PEX didnt maintain their 747's quite that good and a lot of systems were always faulty.
Woohoo! Back to Beirut in Oct '13! (Along with a stop in DOH for 4 days)
Philb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 14 Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4141 times:
The captain was severly criticised for taking off outside the aircraft design limits. As for PE maintenance, as the aircraft had been owned and operated by Continental they, and they alone, were responsible for the maintenance, the state of the aircraft and the captain's training.
As for PE flying with faults - ever heard of a minimum equipment list?
UAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4097 times:
That was one helluva cross wind. You can tell this and the fact they had one, and possibly two engines out on the right side, really made the pilot pull a hard left after the wing dipped to the right, to the point of over-correction. I wish the video was clearer.
PresRDC From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 629 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3847 times:
Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 1): It was also on a video made by a PEX 747 capt way back in the 80s, I think Sportys still sells it, since thats where I bought it.
I have that video and the sequence with the engine fire is not from that video. That video, called "A 747 Pilot's Eye View Video" featured two parts. The first was a montage of scenes from 747 flight decks, cabins and air-to-air shots set the music. The second is a series of t/os or landings with flight deck audio and ATC. Each t/o or landing featured a specific problem the crew had to deal with, including landing into the setting sun at LAX, a faulty EPR gauge in OAK and a brake overheat on arrival to LGW.
The captain who made the video was Paul Havis. He did at least one other video on the Concorde from the flightdeck, which is a much higher quality video. He went to CO when PE was taken over by CO. I'm sure he is retired now.
These videos were done at least five years before Just Planes started their video series.
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