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Eight Indicted In ELP WN Ticket Fraud Scheme  
User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1989 times:

Source: http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?S=4657793

This is the much-hyped million dollar ticket fraud scheme that some of the Southwest ticket counter employees at ELP had going...until they were caught in 2003.

They basically pocketed the cash from last-minute walk up ticket sales. However, the customer didn't know the difference (they were able to board the flight). I'm not sure what the intricacies of this fraud scheme were...

Wow, it appears to be a federal indictment! (the US Attorney's office is involved).


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User currently offlineJumpseat70 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

I guess they weren't as smart as they thought they were. All ticket numbers are audited by ARC, Airline Reporting Corporation, and kept for 7 years. ARC is just like the IRS. They audit often and frequently. Travel agencies are very familiar with them, but I guess these guys didn't do their homework.

User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2007 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1718 times:

Here is a story from another station in El Paso with a few more details.

http://www.ktsm.com/story_news.sstg?c=1760


User currently offlineAAtakeMeAway From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1681 times:

Quoting Jumpseat70 (Reply 1):
I guess they weren't as smart as they thought they were

As a native El Pasoan, I can attest that a lot of the folks there are "a couple margaritas short of a party"
 duck 


User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1940 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

Pretty sad indeed.....

Dont people that do stuff like this think ahead to the day that they are going to slip up and get caught or are they so smug in what they do that they think itll never come to pass...
Stupidity to the max...

Access-Air



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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1540 times:

Quoting Jumpseat70 (Reply 1):
guess they weren't as smart as they thought they were. All ticket numbers are audited by ARC, Airline Reporting Corporation, and kept for 7 years

I know ARC is there to keep travel agents honest, but I didn't think that they audited airlines on their own sales... Is WN even an ARC member airline? Then again, the Airlines Reporting Corporation Agents Handbook is targeted exclusively at Travel Agents, so I guess they wouldn't go into detail about the Airlineside of things.

Raise your hand if you know GG WOOF (IIRC, may only be a CO thing)

Quoting KELPkid (Thread starter):
Wow, it appears to be a federal indictment! (the US Attorney's office is involved).

Pretty much anything involving an airline is going to be federal because states have, essentially, no jurisdiction over the operations of an airline.



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User currently offlineFsuwxman From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 439 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1487 times:

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 5):
Raise your hand if you know GG WOOF (IIRC, may only be a CO thing)

Now you got me interested, I guess I will check it out in a couple minutes when I get to work...



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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

I don't see how this worked ... were these non-electronic tickets? Were the people who bought the used tickets left out-of-luck at the gate?

Does anyone else have details?



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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

Quoting Jumpseat70 (Reply 1):
All ticket numbers are audited by ARC, Airline Reporting Corporation, and kept for 7 years.

Minor correct, ARC has nothing to do with internal airline operations. I would imagine this came to light when WNs own internal auditors ran a routine check of the station and noticed something amiss. I'm not sure how WN's DCS works, but it could have been something like departure count not matching ticket count. It sounds like these guys 'sold' walkups a ticket, but didn't actually run the transaction through the system, instead just collecting cash and pocketing it. But they would have had to still issue a boarding document, to allow them through security, and that's probably what tripped them up, boarding documents didn't line up w/ tickets.



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