Airwave From United States, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 15 Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8285 times:
Oh, yes, very nice. I was pleased to see several in the new livery at PHL several days ago. I took my eyes off of I-95 for as long as I could, lol. I'm actually quite curious to see what a Dash-8 will look like in the new livery, since I see a number of them every day.
I'm quite eagerly awaiting the Piedmont and Allegheny tribute schemes, too.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
Wjcandee From United States, joined Jun 2000, 3743 posts, RR: 19 Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8215 times:
I'm trying to figure out where the photos were taken (i.e. who USAirways used to do the painting). Hard to tell from the backround horizons and shrubbery, and from the ratty looking concrete (on an otherwise clean, organized and recently-striped ramp). Any ideas?
LGA777 From United States, joined Jul 2003, 1004 posts, RR: 28 Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7976 times:
While the Boeing looks great that's one of the worst looking ramp's I have ever seen ! It could be ARA as that is where most US-East aicraft are painted !
DrupyUse From United States, joined Feb 2001, 66 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7744 times:
Quoting Airwave (Reply 4): I'm actually quite curious to see what a Dash-8 will look like in the new livery
I heard a rumor last week that none of the DASHs are scheduled to be repainted. The person telling me this was inferring that they won't be around long enough to make it worth the repaint. Any opinions or maybe factually backed speculation?
Ewmahle From United States, joined Mar 2005, 109 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7616 times:
I just flew on one of the new US livery 757s the other day from CLT-RSW. By the way RSW is a nice airport, wish someone down there would do some more spotting. Anyway, I am going to assume that there will be a little different seating configuration on these ETOPS 757s.? There is no way that I could fly on one of them for 7+ hours, it got uncomfortable after just 1 1/2 hours.
Airwave From United States, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 15 Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7463 times:
Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 6): The first prop has been painted in the new scheme as well - a Colgan Air Saab 340A, ex-Shuttle America.
You know, I think that the Saab looks better in the new livery than the Boeing.
Quoting DrupyUse (Reply 12): The person telling me this was inferring that they won't be around long enough to make it worth the repaint.
Really? Interesting if true. Perhaps the day is near when I won't have Dash-8s buzzing my house.
Quoting Supa7E7 (Reply 13): I would "speculate" they will be painted later this fall, at long last.
Yeah, they really are looking shoddy. It's a shame, though, because that's one of the most frequent visitors to ABE so that's what people come to expect of US.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
HPRamper From United States, joined May 2005, 2086 posts, RR: 8 Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7435 times:
Quoting LGA777 (Reply 10): It could be ARA as that is where most US-East aicraft are painted !
Yes! I believe that is it.
Quoting Ewmahle (Reply 14): There is no way that I could fly on one of them for 7+ hours, it got uncomfortable after just 1 1/2 hours.
I'm hearing the seat configurations will likely be changed when they pull the 757s out of service shortly before the holiday season. So, holiday travelers will be able to avoid hopping the pond in an all-coach config.
FCYTravis From United States, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 9 Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7282 times:
I can't see them dumping the Dash-8s. Can't see it happening at all. They provide a huge amount of lift in the Northeast and Southeast markets. What are they going to replace them with, more CRJs? Yeah, there's a ticket to profitability, more CRJs.
USAir A321 service now departing for SFO with fuel stops in CAK, COS and RNO. Enjoy your flight.
Tornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7119 times:
Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 19): I can't see them dumping the Dash-8s. Can't see it happening at all. They provide a huge amount of lift in the Northeast and Southeast markets. What are they going to replace them with, more CRJs? Yeah, there's a ticket to profitability, more CRJs.
Couldn't agree more. Now maybe this unnamed source is saying something much better.
Dumping the OLD Dash8's, for new Q200/300/400's. There are a whole lot of routes from PHL especially that would be run MUCH more efficient on a Q-400 than any RJ.
Quoting Airwave (Reply 16): Yeah, they really are looking shoddy. It's a shame, though, because that's one of the most frequent visitors to ABE so that's what people come to expect of US.
Doesn't look any worse than the majority of those Colgan Saabs with the paint peeling off, especially that butt-ugly generic "Colgan Air" scheme. Bleh. The Dash is the perfect airplane for the PHL-ABE gravy run though, especially considering it's typically a $100 premium to fly ABE instead of PHL, the profits have got to be huge.
Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 6): The first prop has been painted in the new scheme as well - a Colgan Air Saab 340A, ex-Shuttle America.
How many paint schemes do they have in their fleet? Unfortunately, I guess repainting them in the new US scheme means my dream of no more Saabs flying for US is just that, a dream.
N757st From United States, joined Feb 2002, 204 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6985 times:
I was told that the reason for no painting of the Dash fleet is that they returned an airplane or two and are now so short to cover the current flying that they cannot spare aircraft to the paintshop.
NYCTZ From United States, joined Apr 2004, 49 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6602 times:
We still have 10...6/752's and 4/753's. The all coach seat count for TZ 752's is 200. Its actually pretty good leg room (33 on average) even for a somewhat longer trip. With the installation of first class, I would imagine the coach section would be tighter as is usually the case with a dual class configuration. Thats good for the bottom line I suppose but a larger number of pax will be uncomfortable. Just a thought.
Airwave From United States, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 15 Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6508 times:
Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 20): The Dash is the perfect airplane for the PHL-ABE gravy run though, especially considering it's typically a $100 premium to fly ABE instead of PHL, the profits have got to be huge.
That it is. Although ABE had its share of more substantiative O&D flights in the past, the Dash-8s are a much better fit for the regional ABE has devolved too. Those flights are almost always full, coming or going. What a racket.
Quoting N757st (Reply 21): I was told that the reason for no painting of the Dash fleet is that they returned an airplane or two and are now so short to cover the current flying that they cannot spare aircraft to the paintshop.
So what'll happen when it comes time to pull them off the line for mx and all that? Or hasn't US thought that part through yet?
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
DeltaRules From United States, joined Sep 2001, 3194 posts, RR: 17 Reply 25, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6197 times:
Looks pretty nice, as does the Saab in the new colors. I looked on an FAA site & the next two ex-ATA 757s will be N643UW & N644UW for those curious.
Quoting Molykote (Reply 2): I still prefer the old livery but you could paint one of these things pink and it would still be a badass airplane.
Couldn't agree more.
DeltaRules
Let's Kick the Tires & Light the Fires!!
26 FlyTweed: I could be wrong, but aren't the Dash-8's a proven profit-maker on short hauls for US? I believe the maintenance costs and the CASM are higher on the
27 Flyboyaz: There are more profitable, especially considering the high fuel costs. They told us they were still evaluating the Q400 as an addition to some of the
28 WesternA318: Can't wait for the beautiful A330's to be repainted.
29 HPRamper: Eh, maybe. I don't really buy that the company "didn't think of that" though. Since the merger (read: management change) there's hasn't been much lac
30 FlyDreamliner: US's new livery is beautiful. Probably one of the nicest flying. I still think continental's, which is pretty much classic, is tops, but this is nice
31 Airwave: Yes they are. Gotta love turboprops. Is it at all probable that US will bring the express ops completely in-house? Or would the quickly lose any cost
32 Flyboyaz: While cost is certainly a factor, they are more concerned with good consistent service. My boss just went to a manger's meeting and they were very co
33 Jmc1975: A Mesa Dash-8 (N987HA) has been at OKC for over a week now. That is where the CRJ-900s are being painted into new US Airways livery. Shall I draw any
34 MD90fan: No they are keeping 6 752's and 4 753's, in addition to 12 738's and 3 733's (these are for 2006 as a whole) Too bad they are retreating from their f
35 SonOfACaptain: Whoa, time out there. That photo is either a fake, or they messed up on the new livery. Look at the tail closely. You will see that the US "flag" is
36 FCYTravis: They can't bring them *all* in-house - Air Wisconsin has a contract to provide 60? CRJ-200s for... at least a good while... as part of their investme
37 Flyboyaz: Yes there are many contracts that have to be kept, however they could also be referring to the customer service/fleet service aspect of it. I know PHX
38 Boeingpride800: I saw a US 752 /NC in TPA yesterday! But it wasn't an ex-ATA because I noticed the difference in engine type. By they way, my TPA trip report will be
39 Kearnet: Because I'm in a good mood, I'm going to go easy on your and simply say that it is not a fake and they didn't mess up. Do a search through the forums
40 HPRamper: I love the CO tail design. Just awesome. Yeah, kinda like they finished painting it and decided to park it in the vacant lot out back.
41 Cactus739: You mean like these two.... or these two: so US Airways has been doing it wrong for year and decided to correct it on one of their smallest planes?
42 Doug_Or: RE: the Dash PDT was supposed to start painting in Jan, but that has been nixed as some -200s are being reuturned as leases expire and -100s are broug
43 N766UA: I think we're talking about 2 different flags. The "discussed to death" flag is the flag of the USA. The backwards flag we're supposed to be talking
44 DeltaRules: After looking at it again, I'm with you. The logo's backwards on that plane. DeltaRules
45 LGA777: While I have no idea what Mesa's plans for N987HA are yes maybe it could be getting the new US Express colors or perhaps DL colors as Freedom's (Mesa
46 CRGsFuture: I like the new scheme, pretty good and looking sharp on thoes SAAB's. Question though, how many hot pink Song 752's are there?
47 DeltaRules: Just one, N610DL. It's a special paint scheme promoting Breast Cancer awareness. DeltaRules[Edited 2006-03-22 04:33:27]
49 AC773: I called up Piedmont headquarters (located in SBY, so really I could have gone in person) in january, and they told me that one of their Dash 8s had
50 Chicago757: Looked alot better in ATA's livery. I probably boarded that plane 100 times with TZ. Sad to see TZ fallin apart.
52 Piedmont767LGW: Sorry, but you wouldn't be able to tell which airline it came from just by the engines. Both the US and the ATA 757's operate with RR engines. Additi
53 Piedmont767LGW: 642 was painted in ROW. It left there on the 14th and was Ferried to BFM (Mobile, AL Downtown Airport) for a heavy mx check. The pix were likely take
54 SonOfACaptain: And because I am in a good mood, I am just going to tell you to read some of the replies. Hey...do I not get credit here? -SOAC
55 PGV: LMAO! Only someone familiar with SBY would get that! 'Ol Frank Sr. would be proud! That's a shame. Flew on one in Europe, and these things get it on
56 Acjflyer: Beautiful plane, and awesome pic. The new livery of US Airways is one of my favorite's. Thanks for the post.[Edited 2006-03-22 07:12:08]
58 Potomac: random question - is 13A on the US 757 really a window seat? i know 12A is missing one, and after being on a zillion UA 75s, i could have sworn that t
59 Av8rPHX: While I have no idea what Mesa's plans for N987HA are yes maybe it could be getting the new US Express colors or perhaps DL colors as Freedom's (Mesa)
60 Vega: I've long time ago accepted the White as a consequence of the merger and all that hot air in PHX and LAS. However I never particularly warmed up to th
62 AlexPorter: The situation may be that two of the wall panels are missing windows, but since the size of a panel and the size of a row of seats are different, so
63 Mah584jr: Seats 13A and 13F on the US 757's are not obstructed in any way. The window is square in the middle, so it's actually a perfect view. I know this bec
64 SmAlbany: Nope, not a fake. I took the photo. Here's a better shot of the logo: