A319XFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 16 hours ago) and read 10372 times:
Yes. As long as it's been maintained correctly. Do you mean 2006?
In hindsight, there would have been a few flights I would have wanted to miss in 2005. But it's always easy in hindsight.
You still see aircraft from WW1 and WW2 flying without problems, too.
TinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 16 hours ago) and read 10356 times:
Hell yeeah it is. Just like A319XFW mentioned, it is safe as long as the aircraft has been maintained correctly. Now, if it is in Nigeria (no pun intended), too many incidents lately with older planes. Heck, USAF C-5's are just as old and reliable like no other transport airplane.
MX is a big part of it, but the MX is driven by the regulations put forth by the governing aeronautical agency of that country. So the real question here would be...where are you flying this 732?
"If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it"
RichM From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 794 posts, RR: 11 Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 16 hours ago) and read 10207 times:
Given the fact that modern aircraft are installed with systems such as TCAS, I would of thought that it'd be safe to assume that modern aircraft are typically safer than older aircraft. Obviously, that does not necessarily mean to say that older aircraft are "unsafe".
I guess the same applies with cars. As technology advances, they become safer. For instance, a BMW 320 built in 2006 will be safer than a BMW 320 manufactured in the 1990's due to the fact that many structural and system enhancements/technologies have been implemented in newer designs.
Anyway, I'd fly on a 737-200 with a reputable airline any day.
Fly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1788 posts, RR: 23 Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 15 hours ago) and read 10149 times:
Quoting LY777 (Thread starter): Is it safe in 2006 to fly a plane built 35 years ago?
As others mentioned, if given the proper maintenance, I say YES. On the other hand, how many -200s operative today are actually 35 years old? Not that many. Also remember that the -200s production ended in 1988. Some are newer than MDs or Airbuses out there!
Quoting RichM (Reply 6): Given the fact that modern aircraft are installed with systems such as TCAS, I would of thought that it'd be safe to assume that modern aircraft are typically safer than older aircraft. Obviously, that does not necessarily mean to say that older aircraft are "unsafe".
But remember that in order to fly in the same airspace as those more modern aircraft, the operators need to comply with REGULATIONS.
Regs demand the installation of the equipment found in new aircraft. I, for example, fly 737-200s in Mexico and the US equipped with TCAS, EGPWS, GPS, AT, PMS, approved for RVSM and all the other letters you can imagine. Some are even fitted with LCD screens-EFIS. Flying them is absolutely a delight.
To wrap this up, it depends on the region and the type of operation that they are used for.
A342, TinkerBelle, RootsAir and specially B6JFKH81 are awfully RIGHT.
RM
There are no stupid questions... just stupid people!
N730AS From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 126 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 9925 times:
I have flown on Alaska's 737-200s plenty of times, in sub-zero weather (-40F). I am quite certain that they are a reliable aircraft, to have been operated for such a long time (35+ years), and to not freeze up like its DC-9 counterpart.
Superhub From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 476 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 9865 times:
Yes it is safe. If it is not safe, a country with high standard of regulation will not allow it to fly.
Quoting Afterburner (Reply 10): This is one of the FAQ in this forum.
Some of the others:
When will NW retire their DC9s?
Why don't LH put PTVs in their Y class?
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 51 Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 9773 times:
Quoting RichM (Reply 6): Given the fact that modern aircraft are installed with systems such as TCAS, I would of thought that it'd be safe to assume that modern aircraft are typically safer than older aircraft. Obviously, that does not necessarily mean to say that older aircraft are "unsafe".
Can't those older aircraft be retrofitted with some kind of TCAS system?
Quoting Superhub (Reply 12): Quoting Afterburner (Reply 10):
This is one of the FAQ in this forum.
Some of the others:
When will NW retire their DC9s?
Why don't LH put PTVs in their Y class?
Why do EZ's A319s have two overwing doors?
And also:
Why doesn't IB have better service overall and PTVs in Economy?
Mika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2788 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 9759 times:
Quoting RichM (Reply 6): I guess the same applies with cars. As technology advances, they become safer. For instance, a BMW 320 built in 2006 will be safer than a BMW 320 manufactured in the 1990's due to the fact that many structural and system enhancements/technologies have been implemented in newer designs.
I don´t think you can compare planes to cars here though. A car of today is way safer than one 10-15 years old in the event that you have an accident with it. Deformation zones, airbags etc makes a new car much safer than an old one, i´m not sure that the same applies to planes. A flying tube (fuselage) of yesterday will be pretty much as dangerous to crash in as one of today.
BR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 1 hour ago) and read 9545 times:
Quoting Superhub (Reply 12): Why do EZ's A319s have two overwing doors?
It has to do with the number of seats installed for safe evacuation... I guess they wanted to cram as many seats as possible, but still get the fuel economy of an A319. ::Shrugs::
HBIHLtoEZE From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 280 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9002 times:
Every airplane in the Western World is safe. Regulations are strict.
Every accident has helped to prevent similar occurrences.
However, some 737-200s (and any other aircraft) in countries where regulations and maintenance can be bought by bribes might be dangeruos to fly on, indeed.
My worst experience was on a Aerocontinente 737-200 from UIO to LIM (and back, too) in 2002. It looked and sounded as if it was to disintegrate...
One year after the flights it was written off in a landing accident in LIM:
Age only becomes dangerous if the maintenance is neglected.
Cheers
Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life.
25 DeltaGuy767: I had a funny experience on a DL 732 flying from CVG to BDL. The weather at BDL was really scuzzy with plenty of fog and low clouds and precip. One of
26 Rolfen: New aircrafts are prone to bugs and fabrication defects. Old aircrafts, no matter how well maintained, become less reliable with time. It's just commo
27 YZFOO7F: Even though the 732 might be old, I still quite enjoy the ride, aside from it being a little noisy. First Air just aquired two newer 732's (C-GCPT, C-
28 FlyDreamliner: They have one of the best safety reccords of any airline's fleet of aircraft currently flying. NW'w DC-9s are reliable, comfortable, fairly modern, a
29 TinkerBelle: This is probably the wrong thread for this discussion but it doesn't matter whether she's contacted or not, she represent's FR in that training.
30 MTY2GVA: It may be a wrong way of thinking, but honestly I avoid them when possible. IActually having MTY as my hometown for some time I avoided Aviacsa always
35 Fly727: Most probably is that the neither the crew or the aircraft were certified for CAT III Ops. RM
36 TakeOff: Speaking of the 737-200, I noticed that some of them have a wire running from about the middle of the fuselage to the tail. What's that for? Hold the
38 YULWinterSkies: 35 year old 732s? Yes there are some around... This ancestor first flew in 1971, I flew it in 2004 as CC-CRQ, the cabin was in great shape, although t
39 OV735: I would say, yes (depending on, of course, where you fly it and how it has been maintained in the past and in the present). Personally, I trust old ai
40 CM767: I guess that they are safe Imagine that Aloha is getting some http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ap...20060322/BUSINESS03/603220322/1071
41 Superhub: If you are flying in a Hooter's B732 and there are Hooter's girls in the flight, you will not be thinking about this question.
42 Nkops: I watch Ryan Int'l and Sky King fly them in and out of ACY everyday, no problems (yet)... Don't forget..... "Why does B6 make so many fuel stops??"
43 AAden: as long as it's with a reputable airline it's fine.
44 Terryb99: Funny this thread is about 737-200. Just read this article; http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ap...20060322/BUSINESS03/603220322/1071 Aloha is taking
45 Cubsrule: The majority of LA's 732s are fairly new, though... CC-CRQ, which is now LV-BBM, was delivered in 1981. All the -230s (ex-LH) were delivered in the e
46 Philb: Wow- a long thread and nobody has picked up on the misconception in many posts that the AGE of the aircraft is important - because it plainly isn't. M
47 Arcano: Is it safe? I hope so, or I risk my life every 2 weeks! rember that South America seems to be the lost paradise for the good 732... actually, you SPEN
48 Airportmanager: How about ICARO'S new 737's? The 737-236 ADVANCED, ex SOUTH AMFRICAN. one arrived a month ago and an other one 4 months ago. Flwon n one, looks great,
49 TPAnx: To prove the "it's not the age, it's the maintenence" point...how old are some of the USAF's B-52s? Some are being flown by the sons/daughters of the
50 N1120A: Except of course that it backfired, seeing as they need to employ a 4th F/A Wright Amendment
51 Cubsrule: When I look at the H2 livery, I can't help but think I'm back in the 70s...