IslandHopperCO From Micronesia, joined Dec 2003, 225 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 12479 times:
According to airlinerlist.com, three former Air Aruba MD90s: P4-MDF, P4-MDG, P4-MDH, are to be scrapped! These birds were delivered new in November 1998 to Air Aruba (through a Taiwanese leasing company) and withdrawn from use when that carrier ceased ops in October of 2000. These were supposed to be re-leased to Pro-Air, and even painted in their colors, but they failed to re-start after 9/11 and never took delivery of the planes. The Taiwanese leasing company hasn't been able to lease them since, so they've sat at Marana for over five years now. Here they are in storage:
That Taiwanese leasing company must be really taking it on the chin on these planes! Getting only two years worth of leasing money means 100s of millions were lost on these birds! Wonder if the leasing company went bankrupt...does anybody know their name?
These birds are only 7 years old with less than two years of flight time on them. A similar situation happened with 5 Reno Air MD90s with only a few year's use on them which have been sitting in Marana since early 2001. This all seems like such a waste.
D950 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 493 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 12368 times:
The ex Reno birds are in use with Lion of Indonesia, as for these poor birds, with Hello, Blue 1, Nordic Leisure and others, I can't imagine they could not find a home, unless the leasing company was asking WAY too much for them!!
Resting on your laurels is a synonym for flirting with disaster
Magyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 12350 times:
I remember that not long ago a similar topic was discussed here. So I did a search, and it appears that you started it with quit the same title. Not wanting to seem rude, my next question was: Is it really worth to start an all new post on the same topic? I may be wrong, but seemed strange to me.
Asgeirs From Iceland, joined May 2001, 516 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11359 times:
Wow, this is really sad
I haven't been on a MD90 yet, but I am looking forward to flying on one next month with Iceland Express, who recently took one into service. They will be receiving two more in April and May - all operated by Hello in Switzerland.
This seems really strange - scrapping aircrafts that are virtually new!!
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IslandHopperCO From Micronesia, joined Dec 2003, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 8425 times:
>Is it really worth to start an all new post on the same topic? I may be wrong, but seemed strange to me.
I would have posted the new pics of the planes being scrapped on the old thread, but once a thread is archived you can't post to it. So I started a new one because of the new pics.
>These poor MD90s must hold a record for being the youngest airliners ever getting the axe.
There are some precidents in airplane scrapping history. Continental scrapped five of their barely 10-year-old Boeing 720s (delivered 1965, scrapped 1975). Nigeria Airways scrapped their four new-built 1984 A310s when they were anywhere from four to ten years old. Apparently they had no money for spare parts, so they kept parting them out until none of them were serviceable any more. The one in the first pic was parted out in 1988, and the second pic is of the shells still sitting in Lagos. Crazy stuff.
ACVitale From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 922 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5269 times:
Hwai Hsing Leasing owned them.
They had several opportunities to lease them but, at the end decided to sell rather then lease. The market would only allow a max of $165K a month or so at the time. So they sold. Had they held them a few more months they might have gotten $200-215K a month as there was a surge in the remaining MD90s.
The company that purchased them got their money back on the engines alone with the high prices of the IAE 2527Ds
OttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5208 times:
Does anyone know who the 727 in the foreground of the first airplane belongs to? The one with the spade on the tail and its airstairs down? I've never seen a livery like that, but its a pretty neat one.
FlyHoss From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5017 times:
"Does anyone know who the 727 in the foreground of the first airplane belongs to? The one with the spade on the tail and its airstairs down? I've never seen a livery like that, but its a pretty neat one."
IIRC, that was ACE, AllCanada Express, a cargo operator from Canada that (again, IIRC) recently (2005?) ceased operations. They had a small number of 727s, something like 4 or 5.
SFOFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 4307 times:
I remember those 3 Pro-Air MD-90's. On Feb 12, 2002, a buddy and I had taken off in his BE58 from Scottsdale (SDL) on our way back to Reid-Hillview (RHV) and decided to land at Marana (MZJ) to check it out. The Pro-Air's were at the FBO being de-fueled. Unfortunately, the de-fueler guy was the only person around (it was ghost town) and he was too busy to give one of his impromptu tours. We wandered around a bit and then taxi up and down for a while, checking out all of the planes.
If you ever get a chance to go to Marana, I would highly recommend it. Lots and lots of planes stored there. One of the NASA B747's (N905NA I believe) was down there, as well as a bunch of active Evergreen B747's. I'd like to go back there soon...
SJCRRPAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 4036 times:
Quoting FlyHoss (Reply 17): IIRC, that was ACE, AllCanada Express, a cargo operator from Canada that (again, IIRC) recently (2005?) ceased operations. They had a small number of 727s, something like 4 or 5.
Please, anyone, correct me if I'm wrong.
No need, you are correct. Here is a picture I found on some random internet site.