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User currently offlineIslandHopperCO From Micronesia, joined Dec 2003, 225 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 12342 times:

According to airlinerlist.com, three former Air Aruba MD90s: P4-MDF, P4-MDG, P4-MDH, are to be scrapped! These birds were delivered new in November 1998 to Air Aruba (through a Taiwanese leasing company) and withdrawn from use when that carrier ceased ops in October of 2000. These were supposed to be re-leased to Pro-Air, and even painted in their colors, but they failed to re-start after 9/11 and never took delivery of the planes. The Taiwanese leasing company hasn't been able to lease them since, so they've sat at Marana for over five years now. Here they are in storage:


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Finally, these were recently sold to Source One Spares to be broken up. Here's some pics of P4MDH being scrapped, with the others soon to follow:


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That Taiwanese leasing company must be really taking it on the chin on these planes! Getting only two years worth of leasing money means 100s of millions were lost on these birds! Wonder if the leasing company went bankrupt...does anybody know their name?

These birds are only 7 years old with less than two years of flight time on them. A similar situation happened with 5 Reno Air MD90s with only a few year's use on them which have been sitting in Marana since early 2001. This all seems like such a waste.

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User currently offlineD950 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 493 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 12231 times:

The ex Reno birds are in use with Lion of Indonesia, as for these poor birds, with Hello, Blue 1, Nordic Leisure and others, I can't imagine they could not find a home, unless the leasing company was asking WAY too much for them!!


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User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 12213 times:

Hi IslandHopperCO,

I remember that not long ago a similar topic was discussed here. So I did a search, and it appears that you started it with quit the same title. Not wanting to seem rude, my next question was: Is it really worth to start an all new post on the same topic? I may be wrong, but seemed strange to me.

Cheers.

Three MD90s Wth Only 2 Yrs Service Being Scrapped!


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 11988 times:

Wow, I remember seeing those birds being delivered when I worked at Long Beach.

User currently offlineAKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2190 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 11222 times:

Quoting Magyarorszag (Reply 2):
Is it really worth to start an all new post on the same topic? I may be wrong, but seemed strange to me.

Cheers.

Three MD90s Wth Only 2 Yrs Service Being Scrapped!

That thread is archived...


User currently offlineAsgeirs From Iceland, joined May 2001, 516 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 11222 times:

Wow, this is really sad  Sad

I haven't been on a MD90 yet, but I am looking forward to flying on one next month with Iceland Express, who recently took one into service. They will be receiving two more in April and May - all operated by Hello in Switzerland.

This seems really strange - scrapping aircrafts that are virtually new!!  Wow!



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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10657 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 10884 times:

... and many noisy DC-9s and early MD80s keep flying. Thats odd.

These poor MD90s must hold a record for being the youngest airliners ever getting the axe.


User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2727 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 10884 times:

So sad to see the beautiful MD-90 being scrapped.... If only MDC got the change to develop the bird even more, it could have been a success.  Smile


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User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1613 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9638 times:

Quoting OyKIE (Reply 7):
So sad to see the beautiful MD-90 being scrapped.... If only MDC got the change to develop the bird even more, it could have been a success.

The MD-80 series was a success, wasn't it? There are a lot still flying.

I wonder how much the parts brought? They were probably easy to unload. It is doubtful the leasing company lost all that much.

M


User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2727 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9580 times:

Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 8):
Quoting OyKIE (Reply 7):
So sad to see the beautiful MD-90 being scrapped.... If only MDC got the change to develop the bird even more, it could have been a success.

The MD-80 series was a success, wasn't it? There are a lot still flying.

Luckily, yes. But they did a cheap upgrade from the MD-80 to the MD-90. It lacked the Transcontinental range.

Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 8):

There are a lot still flying.

In Norway we where fortunate to have allot of DC-9's MD-80's and MD-90's. The DC-9 is gone, and all SAS MD-80/90 is located in Denmark. So for me we don't get to see that many MD-80/90 anymore.



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User currently offlineIslandHopperCO From Micronesia, joined Dec 2003, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 8288 times:

>Is it really worth to start an all new post on the same topic? I may be wrong, but seemed strange to me.

I would have posted the new pics of the planes being scrapped on the old thread, but once a thread is archived you can't post to it. So I started a new one because of the new pics.

>These poor MD90s must hold a record for being the youngest airliners ever getting the axe.

There are some precidents in airplane scrapping history. Continental scrapped five of their barely 10-year-old Boeing 720s (delivered 1965, scrapped 1975). Nigeria Airways scrapped their four new-built 1984 A310s when they were anywhere from four to ten years old. Apparently they had no money for spare parts, so they kept parting them out until none of them were serviceable any more. The one in the first pic was parted out in 1988, and the second pic is of the shells still sitting in Lagos. Crazy stuff.


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User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7131 times:

Quoting OyKIE (Reply 7):
So sad to see the beautiful MD-90 being scrapped

- Any American carriers fly the MD90?



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User currently offlineOMA2FAI2SAV From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6136 times:

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 11):
- Any American carriers fly the MD90?

Yes, Delta flies them. Mainly out of SLC, but you can find them elsewhere every now and then. I recently flew one DFW-ATL.


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7481 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5241 times:

Do the Nigerian A310 still exist as hulks or have they been scrapped off now?.

User currently offlineContnlEliteCMH From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1455 posts, RR: 44
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5180 times:

Does anybody else see the wingletted-727 in the right-hand photo? It also has nothing covering its engine inlets.


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User currently offlineACVitale From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 922 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5132 times:

Hwai Hsing Leasing owned them.

They had several opportunities to lease them but, at the end decided to sell rather then lease. The market would only allow a max of $165K a month or so at the time. So they sold. Had they held them a few more months they might have gotten $200-215K a month as there was a surge in the remaining MD90s.

The company that purchased them got their money back on the engines alone with the high prices of the IAE 2527Ds


User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5071 times:

Does anyone know who the 727 in the foreground of the first airplane belongs to? The one with the spade on the tail and its airstairs down? I've never seen a livery like that, but its a pretty neat one.



OttoPylit


User currently offlineFlyHoss From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 4880 times:

"Does anyone know who the 727 in the foreground of the first airplane belongs to? The one with the spade on the tail and its airstairs down? I've never seen a livery like that, but its a pretty neat one."

OttoPylit



IIRC, that was ACE, AllCanada Express, a cargo operator from Canada that (again, IIRC) recently (2005?) ceased operations. They had a small number of 727s, something like 4 or 5.

Please, anyone, correct me if I'm wrong.

[Edited 2006-03-23 07:43:33]

[Edited 2006-03-23 07:44:25]


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User currently offlineIslandHopperCO From Micronesia, joined Dec 2003, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4542 times:

Here are some amazing pictures of them in the scrapping process. All three MD90s are in the process of being scrapped. One of them is already on its belly and cut in two! Sad stuff:

http://www.webhosting4free.org/abcdlist/indexpd.html

>Hwai Hsing Leasing owned them.

Thanks for the info. In fact, wasn't Ghana Airlines going to lease these to restart services? I noticed your country of origin. Hwai Hsing still lost a ton of money on these things I'm sure.


User currently offlineCRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4526 times:

Anyone know why YX wasn't intrested, as these could of been an alternative to the B717's or the large influx of them anyway.


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User currently offlineACVitale From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 922 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4308 times:

GIA was specifically looking at these aircraft and wanted to lease them.

Hwai Hsing decided to get what cash they could and write off the loss due to the poor MD90 market at the time.

Since then the MD90 market took off and lease prices went up and not down.


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 18
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4227 times:

Didn't Saudia take a bunch of brand new MD90s that were only for parts use and would never fly again? Seem to recall reading something about that a number of years ago?

R


User currently offlineSFOFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4170 times:

I remember those 3 Pro-Air MD-90's. On Feb 12, 2002, a buddy and I had taken off in his BE58 from Scottsdale (SDL) on our way back to Reid-Hillview (RHV) and decided to land at Marana (MZJ) to check it out. The Pro-Air's were at the FBO being de-fueled. Unfortunately, the de-fueler guy was the only person around (it was ghost town) and he was too busy to give one of his impromptu tours. We wandered around a bit and then taxi up and down for a while, checking out all of the planes.

If you ever get a chance to go to Marana, I would highly recommend it. Lots and lots of planes stored there. One of the NASA B747's (N905NA I believe) was down there, as well as a bunch of active Evergreen B747's. I'd like to go back there soon...



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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4080 times:

Quoting IslandHopperCO (Thread starter):
This all seems like such a waste.

It'll be a bigger waste if the same thing happens with the WhaleJet.


User currently offlineSJCRRPAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days ago) and read 3899 times:

Quoting FlyHoss (Reply 17):
IIRC, that was ACE, AllCanada Express, a cargo operator from Canada that (again, IIRC) recently (2005?) ceased operations. They had a small number of 727s, something like 4 or 5.

Please, anyone, correct me if I'm wrong.

No need, you are correct. Here is a picture I found on some random internet site.

http://freepages.pavilion.net/stevis/s031105.html


25 Tiger119 : - Is there cockpit commonality between the MD-80/MD-90 series of aircraft?
26 IslandHopperCO : >Do the Nigerian A310 still exist as hulks or have they been scrapped off now? Yep...a friend of mine flew to Lagos recently and the derelict planes a
27 Post contains images Soups : Does that help?
28 NA : Nigeria again. Grab what you can, and if it doesn´t work immiadetely, abandon it... Anyone seen the Obasanjo-interview on CNN last week? Blablabla. I
29 Soups : Probably because they were not sure who is going to keep the money
30 Post contains images SBN580 : It makes me wince to see the photos. After many years of waiting I flew the 90 over the holidays in December on Delta. I flew SLC-PHX and then a nice
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