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PIA Announces New Bangkok Flights  
User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4716 posts, RR: 44
Posted (8 years 1 month 19 hours ago) and read 3936 times:

PIA have announced new services to Bangkok from Pakistan starting from March 26th. All flights will see A 310 service and the frequencies are :

LHE-BKK 3 weekly nonstop
ISB-BKK one weekly nonstop + once a week via LHE
KHI-BKK twice a week nonstop

I have a feeling that the new PIA BKK flights will fail because of the hopeless way in which their schedules and frequencies are planned.

Firstly their schedules are :

KHI-BKK on SAT & SUN

SATURDAY PK 886 Dep KHI 1800 Arr BKK 0050 NONSTOP A 310

SUNDAY PK 878 Dep KHI 2220 Arr BKK 0510 NONSTOP A 310

BKK-KHI on MON & SUN

MONDAY PK 881 Dep BKK 1910 Arr KHI 2205 NONSTOP A 310

SUNDAY PK 887 Dep BKK 0205 Arr KHI 0500 NONSTOP A 310

*When you fly a medium haul route twice a week, basic route network planning logic dictates that it should be one weekday + one weekend service and definitely not BACK TO BACK service as is the case with the KHI-BKK-KHI flights which are on SAT-SUN outbound and SUN-MON inbound  banghead .

The Sunday KHI-BKK flight is timed very well but look at the SAT flight which arrives into BKK at 1am which is very very inconvenient if youre a tourist or even a businessman!!! The Sunday flight KHI-BKK is excellent for interlining purposes and even both the returning flights are but the SUN KHI-BKK definitely isnt. Cathay Pacific and Thai Airways have a clear edge over PIA in this market segment.

ISB-BKK on MON & FRI

MONDAY PK 880 Dep ISB 1100 Arr BKK 1800 NONSTOP A 310

FRIDAY PK 890 Dep ISB 1450 Arr BKK 2340 Via LHE A 310

BKK-ISB on MON & SAT

MONDAY PK 879 Dep BKK 0610 Arr ISB 0910 NONSTOP A 310

SATURDAY PK 891 Dep BKK 0110 Arr ISB 0400 NONSTOP A 310

*Now who wants to arrive into BKK at 2340 in the night. Forget that, the FRI flight too ruins the chance for PK to interline with any Asian carrier to feed their flights with ISB pax bound for North Asia and U.S. West Coast flights. Secondly even the MON flight arrives in the evening meaning which the whole day is wasted flying as you have to arrive at ISB airport by 8am for your flight at 11am and then you arrive into BKK at 6pm and by the time you clear customs-immigration and check into your hotel its 9-10pm!!!

Even the MON flight is bad for interline connections with Asian carriers except for Asiana! Lastly why would you fly PK ISB-BKK that too once a week via LHE when Thai Airways offers well timed, convenient 2 weekly nonstop flights on this route which is expected to go 3 weekly by winter 06-07.

LHE-BKK on TUES, WED & FRI

TUESDAY PK 882 Dep LHE 1655 Arr BKK 2340 NONSTOP A 310

WEDNESDAY PK 884 Dep LHE 0810 Arr BKK 1510 NONSTOP A 310

FRIDAY PK 890 Dep LHE 1640 Arr BKK 2340 NONSTOP A 310

BKK-LHE on WED (2 flights) & SAT

WEDNESAY PK 883 Dep BKK 0110 Arr LHE 0405 NONSTOP A 310

WEDNESDAY PK 885 Dep BKK 1650 Arr LHE 1950 NONSTOP A 310

SATURDAY PK 891 Dep BKK 0110 Arr LHE 0550 Via ISB A 310

*Now please explain the logic of flying a service 3 weekly when on one day of the week its a double frequency i.e. Wednesday for BKK-LHE on PK 883 and 885. How stupid is that!!! This is hopeless planning on the part of the route network planning dept of PIA. Its pretty obvious that even for the LHE-BKK-LHE flights, PIA isnt aiming for any interline traffic and is solely being reliant on O&D demand which isnt a good business move.

Once again the LHE-BKK flights are timed at very awkwardly causing passengers to waste a whole day being in the plane or at the airport!!! The return flights though timed nicely lack variation in terms of days of service!!! Thai Airways will kill them on this route.

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User currently onlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3762 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 17 hours ago) and read 3866 times:

Thanks for the update Behramjee  Smile

What's the biggest airport in terms of traffic in Pakistan?

Also is Lahore or Karachi PIA's main base of operations?

A shame they only use the A310 on these routes, I would love to see the 777 or 747  Smile

Rob!  wave 


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4716 posts, RR: 44
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 15 hours ago) and read 3793 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 1):
What's the biggest airport in terms of traffic in Pakistan?

Also is Lahore or Karachi PIA's main base of operations?

A shame they only use the A310 on these routes, I would love to see the 777 or 747

KHI is the most busiest airport in PAK with the most traffic.

KHI is PIAs main base and hub and not LHE.

Currently PIA flies a 2 weekly B 747-200 Combi on the ISB-HKG-BKK-ISB route.


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4716 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3663 times:

Even more changes to report :

KHI now is 3 weekly to BKK with SUNDAY having 2 flights banghead  and SAT one. SUN's 2 flights depart KHI at 6am and 10pm respectively.

The extra flight is KHI-ISB-BKK on an A 310-300 banghead .

Check flight schedules page on :

http://www.piac.com.pk/flight_schedule.asp and see for yourself.


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