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User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2300 posts, RR: 26
Posted (8 years 1 month 22 hours ago) and read 4981 times:

When airlines charge for alcoholic drinks, what is your impression?

I find that many find it petty.

Others see it as a necessity.

And then there are those who think it keeps air rage incidents down.

People get very angry when they are charged for it, which leads me to believe that they really need a drink bad.

What are your opinions?


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User currently offlineHalophila From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 643 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 4954 times:

Personally (just my opinion here), I don't mind paying so long as the drinks are hearty - I think nobody would agree to paying $5-7 for a can of bud or coor's. The best value I've found was on HA, who have a really good Mai Tai mix, which i feel is every bit worth the $7.

But to be honest when AA started to charge for soft drinks too (e.g. $1 per coke), I paid that too - what is $1 these days anyway?

In short, I don't mind, so long as the ticket prices are cheap! But I have to say flying in a QANTAS DASH-8 domestically in Australia, when offered full, free, drink service, I became a loyal customer...

Halophila



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 4935 times:

Quoting Halophila (Reply 1):
In short, I don't mind, so long as the ticket prices are cheap! But I have to say flying in a QANTAS DASH-8 domestically in Australia, when offered full, free, drink service, I became a loyal customer...

Usually of QF domestic services you have to pay except for City Flyer services after 4pm on weekdays. That could have changed tho I'm not sure.


User currently offlineHalophila From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 643 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 4932 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 2):
That could have changed tho I'm not sure.

This was on a 1.5 h sector on Sunstate (QF's regional subsidiary in Queensland) from GLT to BNE. I was astonished when they came around with the drinks trolley about 10 mins into the flight, and endulged in a nice bottle of shiraz! But then I felt guilty because the fare (not including taxes) was around AUD32 each way - they couldn't possibly be making a profit on me!

Best
Halophila



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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7129 posts, RR: 87
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 4924 times:

The only time I had to pay for drinks in any class cabin was AUS-LAS on WN and I was glad to do it. We were in the absolute last row of the a/c. It was myself and 4 of my mates on my cycling team and we were going to a week long convention on cycling and sales. The flight attendant was super nice, realized we were together, drunk, and having a good time and took care of us. Tipped her $50, only time I've ever tipped flight staff.

I think the majority of foreign carriers operating routes to N. America and return do not charge for drinks in any class. Has been the case for me on LH, AF, KL, and JL.


User currently offlineAirplaneDork From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 19 hours ago) and read 4890 times:

Alcoholic beverages typically cost more than soft drinks or other kinds of drinks to begin with; perhaps the airlines see soft drinks, coffee, juice, etc. as a more expendable supply that is rolled into the ticket price. I believe most US airlines provide free alcoholic beverages in first class/business class.

I have always like WN's prices for alcohol. Getting a Tanqueray and tonic for $4 versus paying $5 for a can of beer on AA (which I unfortunately have done, not knowing beforehand that it cost that much).

Halophila, when did AA start charging for soft drinks? I flew them in December and only paid for beer, the soft drinks were free.



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User currently offlineJetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 824 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 17 hours ago) and read 4842 times:

I drink and have no problem with airlines charging for alcoholic beverages. I mean, if you cannot go a few hours or so without booze - then you should have to pay an exorbitant fee for it. Some people drink to calm their nerves, too, because they do not like to fly. Again - pay the fee.

User currently offlineNzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1515 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 4796 times:

Quoting Jetpixx (Reply 6):
I drink and have no problem with airlines charging for alcoholic beverages. I mean, if you cannot go a few hours or so without booze - then you should have to pay an exorbitant fee for it. Some people drink to calm their nerves, too, because they do not like to fly. Again - pay the fee.

Personally i dont mind paying for alcohol on one condition ..The fare is cheaper than the airline that serves it for free!!!!



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User currently offlineTPAnx From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 15 hours ago) and read 4764 times:

Quoting FXramper (Reply 4):
The flight attendant was super nice, realized we were together, drunk, and having a good time and took care of us. Tipped her $50, only time I've ever tipped flight staff.

Thought it was was a no-no for staff to accept cash. Anyone from WN who can clarify?
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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12884 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 13 hours ago) and read 4716 times:

I agree that in coach, on any flight, one should have to pay reasonable amounts for alcoholic beverages but soft drinks should be free. Charging US $3-5 per 12 oz/330 ml beer or $4-6 for a mixed drink isn't and shouldn't be an issue.
Many people don't drink for personal or religious reasons and some who do drink will drink excessively when it is free. By making people pay for it, you keep reduce excess consumption and you hold down costs to the airline. Even in 1st class/biz class, they should limit the access and service of alcoholic beverages to reduce problems and to hold down fares. Don't forget too that many drink before they get on their flight due to fear of flying, to put them to sleep or just because they have a problem with their use of alcohol.


User currently offlineFLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 13 hours ago) and read 4658 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 9):
By making people pay for it, you keep reduce excess consumption and you hold down costs to the airline.

Having flown as a crew member for over 20 years, there is no question, drinking patterns and alcoholic consumption has changed considerably over the years. Overall, consumption is down, as has the trend for "hard" spirits in favor of beer and wine. I completely support AC's policy of comp drinks on international services which keeps our product competitive. I'm amazed that US carriers such as CO and AA charge for drinks on routes where they compete with major international carriers who still offer free drinks.

There is obviously the odd customer who tends to "overdo" it, but I haven't dealt with an overly intoxicated customer for years. Seems that WN gets them all!!



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User currently offlineB777A340Fan From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 4642 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 9):
Thought it was was a no-no for staff to accept cash

I thought so too. I think it is most airlines' policy.

As far as paying for alcohol, I think is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous is having passengers pay for soft drinks. The original intent of offering food/drinks onboard was to make the flying experience more pleasant, part of the customer service. However, as of late, airlines are just using these excuses to save money and stop offering food/drinks. I have yet to find a significant difference in price between the airline that does offer complimentary drinks vs. the one that does not. How ironic it is that company execs get paid millions while "trying" to save money.


User currently offlineFlyGuyClt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 537 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 4622 times:

Quoting AA767400 (Thread starter):
People get very angry when they are charged for it, which leads me to believe that they really need a drink bad.

Just the people you want to have drink on the airplane.

Are you sure you are in the business?

Safe Flying  Smile



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User currently offlineKhobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 4592 times:

Quoting FXramper (Reply 4):
The flight attendant was super nice, realized we were together, drunk, and having a good time and took care of us. Tipped her $50, only time I've ever tipped flight staff.

Did you pay WN $3-$5 per drink, get drunk, and then tip the FA $50?

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 9):
I agree that in coach, on any flight, one should have to pay reasonable amounts for alcoholic beverages but soft drinks should be free. Charging US $3-5 per 12 oz/330 ml beer or $4-6 for a mixed drink isn't and shouldn't be an issue.

Why is $3-$5 for beer or $4-$6 (or more) for mixed drinks reasonable when that's about 6 times its cost? Doesn't sound the least bit reasonable to me. (I'm reminded of my youthful days in Italy when a litre of beer was cheaper than a can of Coke).


User currently offlineNWOrientDC10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1404 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 4552 times:
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Quoting Jetpixx (Reply 6):
I drink and have no problem with airlines charging for alcoholic beverages. I mean, if you cannot go a few hours or so without booze - then you should have to pay an exorbitant fee for it. Some people drink to calm their nerves, too, because they do not like to fly. Again - pay the fee.

Agreed. Alcoholic beverages are not a necessity. If need be, hold off on the booze until you arrive to wherever it is you're going.

Good Day  Smile

Russell



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User currently offlineHalophila From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 643 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 7 hours ago) and read 4475 times:

Quoting AirplaneDork (Reply 5):
Halophila, when did AA start charging for soft drinks? I flew them in December and only paid for beer, the soft drinks were free.

I believe it was a trial run on American Eagle, not American Airlines (sorry). It was on a flight from LAX to SJC... from my understanding it was a pilot program, and it didn't last long!

Halophila



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User currently offlineLetsgetwet From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 4437 times:

Quoting B777A340Fan (Reply 11):
However, as of late, airlines are just using these excuses to save money and stop offering food/drinks

I guess you must live under a rock. For your information, just about every major airline in the US is or was in chapter 11 bankruptcy. That means they are not making any $$ ! Charging a reasonable fee for alcoholic drinks is not an excuse to make $$ it is MEANT to make $$. Airlines are supposed to make $$. If they keep giving everything away for free (including the fares) they will no longer be here soon.


User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 4421 times:

Wasn't it stated here at a.net recently that airlines receive their soft drinks for free?

I do know, however, that food and alcohol costs $$$$$$$.

If you're flying first class and the airline includes that in your price, then fine. But getting it free in coach? I don't understand how people can expect that every time.



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User currently offlineJetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1616 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 4396 times:
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Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 17):
Wasn't it stated here at a.net recently that airlines receive their soft drinks for free?

I highly doubt the airlines get their soft drinks for free, considering the volume they use daily.

In all probability there are incentives paid back to the airline to feature their products. This is typical in other areas as well like stadiums and other high volume consumption areas.

I know that AA uses both Coke and Pepsi products and either one would love to be the exclusive supplier, I am sure that AA plays one against the other for the best deals.


User currently offline767ER From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1092 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 4367 times:

The only time i have paid for booze was on UA LAX SFO $5 for a glass...sorry plastic cup.....of wine.

Since I usually fly Long Haul the booze is cheap. I never drink spirits when flying.....get intoxicated too quickly though the odd G&T is nice after a stressful airport experience.



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User currently offlineFLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month ago) and read 4321 times:

I commend all of the employees of their respective (US) carriers for supporting their company policies.

I agree that a great flight should not be determined by amount of alcohol consumed, but frankly it puts them at a product-competitive disadvantage against the BA's, VS's, AF's, etc.

Check out feedback on the "Skytrax" website--www.airlinequality.com. It is the most frequently voiced bone of contention, by customers travelling on US carriers, internationally.



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User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2004 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month ago) and read 4312 times:

I have 2 problems with airlines charging for alcoholic drinks

1) If other airlines provide them free, yet provide the same level of service, at a similar price, why should I book with the ones that don't?
2) It's a real nuisance, trying to find the right money - it's not exactly easy trying to eat money out of your pocket when sitting down in economy class!

And for those who suggest there's something wrong with those people who 'demand liquor' on their flights, on a long haul flight, when you're on a plane for hour after hour, it's very nice to have a glass of wine with your meal, or a G&T, and to suggest that such small amounts of drink will create air rage is nonsense!



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9112 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month ago) and read 4310 times:

Quoting Khobar (Reply 13):
The flight attendant was super nice, realized we were together, drunk, and having a good time and took care of us. Tipped her $50, only time I've ever tipped flight staff.

Did you pay WN $3-$5 per drink, get drunk, and then tip the FA $50?

very nice... a bit on the odd side, but nice

Quoting Jetpixx (Reply 6):
I drink and have no problem with airlines charging for alcoholic beverages. I mean, if you cannot go a few hours or so without booze - then you should have to pay an exorbitant fee for it. Some people drink to calm their nerves, too, because they do not like to fly. Again - pay the fee.

I fully agree with that. There are people who drink simply to get drunk/drink multiple beers/glasses of wine/etc simply because they cannot do without it, and they should definitely pay more for that. There are those who, like you said, have one beer or glass of wine to calm them down when they fly. I just have alcohol just for the pleasure and the taste. I flew out of PHL on WN 1531 bound for PIT, and I treated myself to a glass of chardonnay for the hell of it. I paid $4. If I were to go to the Olive Garden, it would have been $5.50 per glass or something in the ballpark...



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User currently offlineMiCorazonAzul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month ago) and read 4288 times:

Quoting AA767400 (Thread starter):
When airlines charge for alcoholic drinks, what is your impression?

I find that many find it petty.

Uh, don't you pay for drinks at bars/clubs? I don't see why airlines should be any different.


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9112 posts, RR: 18
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month ago) and read 4286 times:

Quoting MiCorazonAzul (Reply 23):
Uh, don't you pay for drinks at bars/clubs? I don't see why airlines should be any different.

Again, agreed



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25 AA767400 : Micorazonazul, I never said that it was petty. Reread what I said "I find that MANY find it petty. Not me, but MANY. Yeah..... But I don't get what y
26 FLYACYYZ : And Americans are notorious for consuming copious amounts of sugary, caffeine-laced soda pop with breakfast....so what's your point? Just because the
27 AA767400 : Good for you! You find a way to bash Americans. Happy? Who the hell ever said that? Got to love assumptions. And excuse me, but AC is a big fan of ni
28 FLYACYYZ : No more than you're generalizing about customers from the UK. Happy to offer our customers complementary alcohol internationally, and complementary he
29 AA767400 : I generalized a certain comment made often by a certain group. You on the other hand stated that "Americans are notorious for..." . But hey, it is ve
30 B777A340Fan : Flying about hundreds of times yearly for both business and leisure, I would harshly classify myself as being "under a rock". I understand quite well
31 Post contains images FlyGuyClt : [quote=AA767400,reply=25]Quoting FlyGuyClt (Reply 12): Are you sure you are in the business? Yeah..... But I don't get what you are getting at?[/quot
32 AA767400 : It is a bad situation to be put in. Because if you don't offer more, they get nasty. And if you give them more, you risk their safety and those aroun
33 Letsgetwet : If you want free booze, buy a first class ticket! Remember the old saying "Nothing in life is free" and "You get what you pay for".
34 Khobar : Yeah, beer wine $1 (unless it's draught, then it's $3 a pitcher), and $1.50 shooters, etc. Now if you want a specific brand then perhaps the higher p
35 Letsgetwet : Where do you get prices like that? I paid that much 20 years ago. The airlines dropped the freebies because they were in the red! why would they drop
36 Post contains links and images Khobar : http://www.karambanightclub.com/thursday.asp. $3 pitcher beer, but be careful, it might be more entertainment than you might be wanting. (Oh I hope t
37 FlyKev : Try a UK charter if you wish to pay for drinks, and they arent even big, heres a price list from DP: (Soft Drinks) Pepsi/7up - (15cl can) £0.70p Toma
38 AirbusA6 : I think you'll find that this is very much a continental European attitude, where people are brought up that moderate drinking with meals is both ple
39 Letsgetwet : Yes I share your views that Brits are binge drinkers. That's why they should't get unlimited free drinks on flights.
40 IAirAllie : That is a weird stereotype. I've never observed that myself. Most Americans on my flights like OJ or coffee with breakfast. The Brazilians are the on
41 FLYACYYZ : Seems to be alot of sensitivity regarding this topic. Different groups of people possess different trends. There is nothing stereotypical, demeaning,
42 IAirAllie : I'm not being sensitive in 5 years of being an FA I haven't noticed this trend at all in Americans. There certainly are bev and other preferences prev
43 AA767400 : Really have not seen that on any flights to Brazil. But the baby bottle deal is something very common in the Dominican Republic. I share your view th
44 Steeler83 : Very well put. You don't get a free anything on the train, unless you get business class, then you get free pop/coffee etc but still have to pay for
45 AirbusA6 : If General Motors said "Because we are broke, from now on none of our cars will have in car entertainment or electric windows as standard, as we need
46 MCMAHONSMR : My $0.02 . . . . Most US carriers charge $5 for beer, wine or spirits. Some carriers, like the soon to be defunct Song, had other 'premium' options av
47 Khobar : I guess it depends on the route flown. BA's PHX product was the worst I've experienced from the standpoint of nothing actually being wrong. It's the
48 Letsgetwet : No, GM would never sell a car for less than it cost to build. You are right about the electric windows, they either have to raise the price of the ca
49 Post contains images MiCorazonAzul : and I never said that YOU said it was petty cutie pie.... If you find the prices too "high" then simply don't buy the product or can some not do with
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