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2nd PK B777-200LR Due JFK 2149z Tonight!  
User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3945 posts, RR: 18
Posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4647 times:

PIA's second B777-240LR, AP-BGZ is due to depart BFI at 1730z today Thursday for JFK with an ETA of 2149z, as PIA7774.

R  spin 

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User currently offlineNADEEM From Pakistan, joined Mar 2006, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4603 times:

Congratulations to PIA. Hopefully, someone will take pics of this bird and share them with us here.....

PIA's second B777-240LR, AP-BGZ is due to depart BFI at 1730z today Thursday for JFK with an ETA of 2149z, as PIA7774.

RobK, how do you find out such information? Do you know someone that works at BFI or is there a website that gives such information? I have trouble just finding normal arrivals/ departures times at my local airport.....  Sad


User currently onlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4579 times:

Quoting NADEEM (Reply 1):
Congratulations to PIA. Hopefully, someone will take pics of this bird and share them with us here.....

this is one of the two 777-200LR's which went to PK......I think this AP-BGZ


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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3945 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4549 times:

I do have a handful of people-in-the-know but for this particular movement, I just happened to be browsing the BFI movements past and planned for today and there it was! I knew it had ferried PAE-BFI yesterday as BOE002 which was an indication it was due to deliver pretty soon.

You can view the last months worth of movements at Boeing on my web page at http://www.selcalweb.co.uk/boeing.htm

R


User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4536 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 2):
this is one of the two 777-200LR's which went to PK......I think this AP-BGZ

Here we go again...  biggrin 

So, does this mean Boeing has no test airframe left of the 772LR since they delivered both to PIA?


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3945 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4536 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 4):
So, does this mean Boeing has no test airframe left of the 772LR since they delivered both to PIA?

Correct, and none currently in the pipes either, at least til the end of the year.

R


User currently onlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4495 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 4):

Here we go again...  biggrin 

you have to admit, it was perfectly suited. biggrin 



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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4485 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 6):
you have to admit, it was perfectly suited.

Very true... Couldn't have timed it better myself  wink 


User currently onlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4466 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 7):

Very true... Couldn't have timed it better myself

sometimes my photos are ill-timed, but most of the time, I'm on the ball....I haven't posted any photos in a while, I'm planning on purchasing newer equipment.... biggrin 



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4377 times:

How long will she remain at JFK for?

User currently offlineDalb777 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4320 times:

Will it be flying direct to Pakistan from JFK; and if it does, will it be a revenue flight?


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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4307 times:

Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 10):
Will it be flying direct to Pakistan from JFK; and if it does, will it be a revenue flight?

Yes and yes to both your qustions.


User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3945 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4217 times:

Due to depart JFK at midnight tonight UTC as PIA7744 to Chaklala (OPRN).

R


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4215 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

why do you post that weak shot of the 777 every time the subject comes up?

User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4209 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 13):
why do you post that weak shot of the 777 every time the subject comes up?

It's not a 'weak shot' if you ask me and in this case especially, it's warranted. It's the same PIA aircraft.


User currently onlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4181 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 13):
why do you post that weak shot of the 777 every time the subject comes up?



Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 14):
It's not a 'weak shot' if you ask me and in this case especially, it's warranted. It's the same PIA aircraft.

thank you very much.. Smile

.....and its MY shot, something which I can be proud of and contribute to...



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4178 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Sure, but the fact that you post it several times weekly makes me think you are somehow desperate for attention or something.

But whatever, i'm glad you ar eproud of your effort and result!

Too bad PIA didn't leave it in the Dreamliner c/s.


User currently offlinePIA777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1738 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4163 times:

Since these are "used" planes, did PIA get some sort of discount?

PIA777



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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4143 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 16):
Sure, but the fact that you post it several times weekly makes me think you are somehow desperate for attention or something.

That's a cheap shot...especially coming from a photo screener. Shame.

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 17):
Since these are "used" planes, did PIA get some sort of discount?

Of course we will never know how much they paid coz Boeing doesn't want taht info to go public but you can bet they got a heck of a deal on them. They launched the aircraft plus they didn't even get brand spanking new ones.


User currently onlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4136 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 16):
Sure, but the fact that you post it several times weekly makes me think you are somehow desperate for attention or something.

But whatever, i'm glad you ar eproud of your effort and result!

Too bad PIA didn't leave it in the Dreamliner c/s.

nah..if you knew me on a personal level, I'm sure you would know..its not my modus operandi... Smile

for me, its more about sharing my experience(s) at a particular moment...and if its relevant to the topic, I'll bring it up...

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 17):
Since these are "used" planes, did PIA get some sort of discount?

that's a good question......I wouldn't be surprised if they got some kind of discount.....especially being the first operator of the plane!



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User currently onlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4009 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 18):
That's a cheap shot...especially coming from a photo screener. Shame.

thanks for sticking up. Smile


by the way, one could track the flight right now, as I'm doing... biggrin 

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/PIA7744



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21415 posts, RR: 60
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3996 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 19):
that's a good question......I wouldn't be surprised if they got some kind of discount.....especially being the first operator of the plane!

I will bet they got them for the same price they paid for previous 772ERs minus some extra discount for the flight test wear on the frames (though likely the engines have been completely overhauled and every system completely refurbished, but the frames themselves are still burdened with 100s of flight hours.)

By selling them to PIA for the same price they would have had to pay for a two more 772ER, it meant they got a better, more efficient plane without any risk. Just my opinion.



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User currently onlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3985 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 21):
I will bet they got them for the same price they paid for previous 772ERs minus some extra discount for the flight test wear on the frames (though likely the engines have been completely overhauled and every system completely refurbished, but the frames themselves are still burdened with 100s of flight hours.)

By selling them to PIA for the same price they would have had to pay for a two more 772ER, it meant they got a better, more efficient plane without any risk. Just my opinion.

interesting figure you came up with, sounds plausible...I think it would be somehwere between what they paid for their -200ER's and some number for the -200LR.....



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User currently offlineRIHNOSAUR From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 362 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3974 times:

so I guess this thread answers part of my question...

"Which airline(s) use(s) the 777 200 lr??", because I have been looking through the data base of pics and I only see the dream liner ones..so I figured no airline was actively using it yet.. I guess I only see an option for (777-200 but not the lr option on the search engine)
..so, was I wrong in thinking this is the very first-second delivery??? which means PIA are the first??

on a side note, I am a huge airbus lover..but I would like to comment that this is Boeing's baby...In my opinion this is Boeing's sweetest aircraft..I wish someday I can fly in it!

cheers



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User currently onlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3967 times:

Quoting RIHNOSAUR (Reply 23):
so, was I wrong in thinking this is the very first-second delivery??? which means PIA are the first??

yes...PK got the first two -200LR's...they got their first one a few days ago

Quoting RIHNOSAUR (Reply 23):

on a side note, I am a huge airbus lover..but I would like to comment that this is Boeing's baby...In my opinion this is Boeing's sweetest aircraft..I wish someday I can fly in it!

I'm already planning on flying either from JFK or YYZ to KHI on "the baby".. biggrin 



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25 Ikramerica : And only. Only 2 772LR exist in the world, and as of tonight, PIA has both in service. No other 772LR is even in the pipeline, though AC will be gett
26 RIHNOSAUR : o wow dude, I was not aware of that at all, I assumed they were already "mass producing them".... why is this?? is it. I mean I know it is Boeing's l
27 Ikramerica : because they hadn't sold any! EVA had ordered 3 but looks to be rethinking that. Up until EK and AC, nobody else had ordered them. AC is taking them s
28 Jacobin777 : AI have purchased a few, BR is probably going to change their planes from the 777-200LR to the 777-200F...they haven't cancelled their order outright
29 OldAeroGuy : Air India will get the next 772LR built in 1st Q '07. So far the total stands at 35 from the five airlines mentioned above, not counting the 23 777F'
30 RIHNOSAUR : wow again thanks for all the input guys! So I was not aware that in comparison to the other 777 model the 200 lr was just getting started in its sales
31 Planetime : Wouldn't a 777LR make more sense for LAX to Pakistan than for YYZ? Or JFK? 777-200ER can make it from there to LHE Or ISB? What is PIA's reasoning for
32 Post contains links and images Jacobin777 : I think its because of better operating economics...as anything over 5000nm, the -200LR does better than the -200ER.. I mentioned on some other threa
33 Planetime : Any idea of the route which that plane will take? Will it replace or supplament the 743's and 742's in their fleet?
34 Post contains images JMO-777 : Hmm, the "entire 777-family" consists of 772,772ER,77F,772LR,773 and 77W. With PIA only flying 772ER, 77L and 77W it is NOT the entire family!!! Greet
35 Jacobin777 : unfortunately, you I don't..you know how it is with PK...one day its one thing, the next day its another thing......I sure wish they would focus a li
36 Planetime : I heard rumor on that PIA is putting in order for 1 more 777LR and 1 more 777-300ER. Any timeframe on their delivery?
37 Jacobin777 : oh that would be interesting.....now they have to work on getting their fleet route proper.... they have to focus on their high-yielding routes and c
38 Planetime : Well Karachi has always been the defacto hub for PIA. But from someplaces they market adjust it. Example from UK you would see that mostly ISM focuse
39 Post contains links Jacobin777 : interesting...I know what you mean..as my mother frequently flies ORD-MAN-LHE-KHI.......... With ORD/IAH only a totaly of 3x/weekly and 4x/weekly dur
40 Planetime : I think all 3 big cities in Pakistan is a focus city for them. On a side note is there a possibilty of PIA starting MEL? I seriously doubt it there i
41 BlueShamu330s : ......but heavily ironic that AP-BGZ's first westbound revenue service, supposedly non-stop to JFK had to drop in to...... MAN........ yesterday, for
42 Jacobin777 : got a link or any references?
43 Post contains links BlueShamu330s : http://www.ringwayreports.co.uk/ringway.htm Check movements (with proof provided by pic) for 28th March Regards Shamu
44 Jacobin777 : here are some routes which PK were planning back in Sept. 2005...it lists Australia as "SYD/MEL"...........I dont think they would do it a direct fli
45 Planetime : Might be the ones that might be little far fetched. But you never know with PIA. Lets see them start LAX first.
46 Gkirk : AP-BGZ has operated westbound via MAN twice this week.
47 Post contains links BlueShamu330s : Indeed, dropping in to refuel again last night..... http://www.ringwayreports.co.uk/ringway.htm Regards Shamu
48 Post contains images Gkirk : I thought the 772LRs could make Pakistan-JFK nonstop pretty easily? Perhaps PIA should get some A340-500s?
49 Jacobin777 : I've read also read in other places that South America presents very good cargo loads......
50 Planetime : 777LR should have no problem in making it to JFK as its a bit closer than YYZ if you map it out from Pakistan. And besides that 777ER is the one AA a
51 Post contains links and images Jacobin777 : Oddly enough, now we know why the PK's 777-200LR's have been stopping in MAN... leave it upto the Pakistani government to bungle something up.. fair u
52 Planetime : This is really hillarious how PIA can overlook this. I am guessing that they are in the process of clearing it up so the direct flight will resume. A
53 DJ738 : PIA's livery is quite possibly one of the most boring ever. If you can even call it a "livery". Such a shame to have the beautiful Boeing Dreamliner l
54 Post contains links HighFlyer9790 : Terrific! i get all the overflights to JFK so itll prolly fly over my houuse! ...but it will be dark. u can read about my in flight spotting here....
55 Post contains links and images Jacobin777 : according to the article... "He was confident about the operation of non-stop flights for New York and maintained that US authorities had not refused
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