Golftango From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 314 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3331 times:
In two instances I've noticed the ac rolling right to left.
Once on a SAT to DFW flight aboard a DL 732. During the entire flight the ac rolled back and fourth. No one else seemed to notice, but it was pretty evident while looking out the window.
Again, last year aboard an AA MD80 while on finals to BOS from MSY. The ac started to incrementally roll right in three or four small motions, then the same back to the left, repeat. I became a little nervous during that flight.
Ramerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3305 times:
I have noticed this on the A320.
It was very pronounced on the TO and Landing. When the Pilot was flying, the rudder application was not solid. It felt like the pilot was pushing down and letting go rapidly and the rear of the A/C was "wobbeling" back and forth.
I think it was only when the pilots was controlling the A/C. I think Airbus calibrates the rudders so that the sensitivity changes with the airspeed. Maybe when gaining or loosing altitude, the rudder deflection changes when holding the same pressure.
KAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1958 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3305 times:
In the aircraft I fly it is quite common as well. During cruise the airplane will often bank back and forth continuously, no more than 5 degrees to either side.
The culprits are the autopilot and the FMS, more specifically the way they interface with one another. When you have the autopilot tracking the FMS course, sometimes it gets the message that it needs to bank to maintain course when in reality it should just be holding the wings level.
If I recall correctly, the DL 732 you rode on likely doesn't have an FMS, in that case, it was probably the autopilot attempting to hold a course based off a land based navigation signal....sometimes these signals aren't precisely accurate, especially at high altitudes, therefore the autopilot will initiate a bank anytime the course signal fluctuates.
FlyingHippo From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3276 times:
Flying STL-LGA on AA MD-80 last Thursday, we had to circle around LGA a few times due to high traffic caused by high wind conditions which actually closed LGA for a while.
While we're in the holding pattern, the strong wind shook the MD-80 pretty good, I was sitting near the rear part of the plane and I could feel the big yaw movements, as well as the roll and pitch constantly changing.
It's nothing to be scared of, it's either the pilot or the auto-pilot constantly adjusting the plane to keep it on it's flight path and glide scope.
The good thing is that as we approached the runway, we were still very bumpy (I did get a bit nervous by then), but the wind calmed down right as the pilot flared for the landing. A great job by the AA pilot!.
ManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 2998 posts, RR: 49
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3178 times:
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I always notice this on my flights on A320s and A330s. It's a slight back-and forth rolling (no more than 2-3 degrees, full cycle takes about 10 seconds), even in smooth air. Looks like the FMS/autopilot are compensating slightly all the time.
LGAtoIND From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2879 times:
If the pilot turns the yoke, the aircraft will roll. If the pilot moves the rudder pedals, the aircraft will yaw. Both of these motions are common on commercial flights, especially when landing in a crosswind.
L1329II From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2741 times:
Quoting Golftango (Thread starter): Once on a SAT to DFW flight aboard a DL 732. During the entire flight the ac rolled back and fourth. No one else seemed to notice, but it was pretty evident while looking out the window
If its constant its almost always an autopilot issue.
RubyMtn738 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2699 times:
Funny you should bring this up, I just finished flying with SkyKing Airlines on N977UA a B737-200 and I encountered the same experience. I asked the captain about it and he indicated it was an issue with the autopilot. Spent 3.5 hours rolling like we were in a boat.