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Air New Zealand To Get New Livery  
User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 23556 times:

Couldn't resist it, given the breathless nature in which stuff like this is posted on a.net. Sorry guys  Wink

It's just a minor change - the existing graduated teal backdrop to the koru is to be replaced with greenstone,

The first aircraft to feature the new paint scheme is likely to be one of the Boeing 777s yet to be delivered.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21417 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 23517 times:

Wow, it's almost as if someone already started a thread on this, and you were so 'excited' to be funny that you didn't bother to do a search.  Wink


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User currently offlineAerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2634 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 23472 times:

The other thread seems to have been deleted for some bizarre reason.

But anyway, I was wondering if the design shown in the picture on the stuff website is what will be used for the tail background.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/

I wish they had something bright and beautiful rather than the drab colours of the new interiors and new uniforms.


User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 23431 times:

No offense Aerokiwi, but have you actually been in the new aircraft? As someone who works in them just about daily I don't really find them drab - I do find them subtle and relaxing to the eye. To my mind they're a million percent improvement on the garish blue green and red seat colours they replaced.


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User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 23431 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
Wow, it's almost as if someone already started a thread on this, and you were so 'excited' to be funny that you didn't bother to do a search. Wink



Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 2):
The other thread seems to have been deleted for some bizarre reason.

Don't you just hate it when you're wrong, Ikramerica  Wink



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User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 23311 times:

Glad they're keeping the koru, but what is this "extension" they speak of? I've always though that ANZ aircraft look simply stunning. Such grace and earthiness in the color and the lines and the koru. But I guess that's what they were going for, lol.

What's this new "greenstone" color? Is it basically the color of the new uniforms in that pic on stuff?



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User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 23289 times:
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I was wondering who would spill first. I've been sitting on this for 3 months now. Everytime a comment was made on the state of the current livery I have been itching to say something. We have a 737, ZK-NGE due to be painted in a few weeks which is to be painted in this new (tail) scheme.

NZ1


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 23261 times:

Hehe, and I was just about to ask if it was going from a stark white fuselage to blue like others?  tongueincheek 


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User currently offlineAerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2634 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 23204 times:

Quoting TG992 (Reply 3):
No offense Aerokiwi, but have you actually been in the new aircraft?

Yup, a recent 777 flight to and from Melbourne. New IFE is great, but again with the drab. I was hoping for the warms brown leather of the A320 but they went for this, which should help blend in with the crew until it's just one big grey blob.

I still reckon they should get rid of the Pacific Wave. It was always weak looking and a logo with no real basis in national identity. They should replace it with a silver decal of the silver fern, in my opinion, that is larger than the Wave but follows the same contours. Would look stunning.

I also reckon they should keep the gradiated koru insignia rather than have the koru extend all the way to the back of the tail. Maybe update the typefont used as well.


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 11853 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 2 hours ago) and read 23045 times:
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Here is a better stuff.co.nz link

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3613786a13,00.html

"An extension of the koru design, by Maori artist Derek Lardelli, would become a background feature throughout the branding, including crew uniforms and the walls behind check-in counters in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch and eventually on the aircraft tails."

"The changeover follows the clock around the world. Some crew on 13 international flights in the air at the time of the changeover will reappear after their rest breaks in their new uniforms."


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 2 hours ago) and read 23033 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 9):
Here is a better stuff.co.nz link

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3613786a13,00.html

"An extension of the koru design, by Maori artist Derek Lardelli, would become a background feature throughout the branding, including crew uniforms and the walls behind check-in counters in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch and eventually on the aircraft tails."

"The changeover follows the clock around the world. Some crew on 13 international flights in the air at the time of the changeover will reappear after their rest breaks in their new uniforms."

Ooohhh boy...now asid from flying ANZ all over the place, how can I find one of THEM F/A's?



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User currently offlineHalophila From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 643 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 2 hours ago) and read 23033 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 9):
Here is a better stuff.co.nz link

I was going to say... all I see is something about some athlete at the Commonwealth games. Could be worse I guess - could be a lawn bowler.  Smile



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User currently offlineAerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2634 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 2 hours ago) and read 23019 times:

Apologies for that. Was a bit rushed at the time.

Sounds kind of reminiscent of the brief PIA scheme a few years back that had a classy floral pattern on the tail. As long as they keep the tail colours bright, I'll be happy.


User currently offlineAntskip From Australia, joined Jan 2006, 910 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 2 hours ago) and read 22958 times:

Quoting TG992 (Reply 3):
As someone who works in them just about daily I don't really find them drab - I do find them subtle and relaxing to the eye. To my mind they're a million percent improvement on the garish blue green and red seat colours they replaced.

Does the new B772ER have this new scheme? If so I found it without impact: no-name, bland. I much preferred the turquoise theme of the old interiors that went way back to the days of TEAL.

Quoting Airwave (Reply 5):
new "greenstone" color? Is it basically the color of the new uniforms in that pic on stuff?

The colour of the new uniforms in the pics on stuff.co.nz pics looks more like paua than greenstone.

New tail looks great.


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8492 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 hour ago) and read 22864 times:
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Quoting Antskip (Reply 13):
New tail looks great.



how do you know ....? they haven't painted one yet - the photo in the OP is the current tail Big grin



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5193 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 hour ago) and read 22819 times:

Something a little different is always nice.

User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 hour ago) and read 22805 times:

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 14):

how do you know ....? they haven't painted one yet - the photo in the OP is the current tail Big grin

Was wondering that meself...  scratchchin 



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User currently offlineAntskip From Australia, joined Jan 2006, 910 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month ago) and read 22785 times:

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 14):
they haven't painted one yet - the photo in the OP is the current tail

Oh my!  blush  No wonder I liked that tail!  biggrin  One of the best around, still. Love the koru. Love the colours.


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4773 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month ago) and read 22743 times:

I must say I haven't seen either of those F/As before Kim Boa, and Nicola Winter. They are both pretty cute tho eh?  Wink

The greenstone background kinda reminds me of AC when they had green with their maple leaf symbol... cept ours is a white koru  Smile



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User currently offlineNZAA From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month ago) and read 22641 times:

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 6):

Oh you are sly NZ1, very sly indeed.
Where are they being painted???

Travis



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 11853 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 22594 times:
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Quoting NZAA (Reply 19):
Where are they being painted???

There is a paint shop at CHC, not sure if thats only for narrow body thou


User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6902 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 22594 times:

I was starting to suspect we would be changing it, when I read it on the intranet . Hopefully it will be a boost for our cause. I'm hoping that the feedback will be more favourable than the uniform was.

User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 22579 times:

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 18):
I must say I haven't seen either of those F/As before Kim Boa, and Nicola Winter. They are both pretty cute tho eh?

Zk, if the airline has more of these angels, and theyre single, lol, then I've just become youre No. 1 fan!



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User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 22544 times:

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 22):
Zk, if the airline has more of these angels, and theyre single, lol, then I've just become youre No. 1 fan!

Having flown with both of them it's my pleasure to confirm they're gorgeous people in personality, as well as appearance!



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 22502 times:

Quoting TG992 (Reply 23):
Having flown with both of them it's my pleasure to confirm they're gorgeous people in personality, as well as appearance!

Well then, that does it...I'm booked on tomorrow's flight from LAX to AKL. For $6280.20, I've booked meself on Business class on the following:

Tomorrow:
NZ1 LAX-AKL 8:15PM 5:00AM+2 744

March 27:
NZ6 AKL-LAX 7:45PM 11:40AM 744

This sounds like fun, I can't wait! And now, to get to LAX, I've booked myself on the 810AM out of SLC and into IAH then out to LAX. Some things just never change though...lol.



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25 HB88 : Alas, I don't fly ANZ as much as I'd like, but when I can, I do and one of the reasons that the cabin staff attitude is so good. As an aside, I'm exc
26 Kiwiflyer791 : Why didn't they decide to paint the tails before the new 777s and Q300s arrived? We now have pretty well brand new A/C already looking at the possibil
27 777ER : How about a silver Fern?
28 Post contains images Aerorobnz : I have come across them (no not like that ) departing a flight or two...
29 TG990 : I say keep the Koru of course, Maori heritage etc is really important and shouldn't be lost as an icon of this country. But I would absoloutely love
30 777ER : I was talking about on the engine coulings because Kiwiflyer791 said grey engine coulings are boring
31 ZKSUJ : That would look pretty ugly in my opinion, just some how cant picture it matching very well
32 NZ107 : IMO somewhat like the ones on the 2nd LOTR 744.. Didn't look very nice.
33 Aerorobnz : I think the wave will disappear. I know nothing of the design for sure. Only the hearsay so far.
34 Post contains images Zkpilot : I'm very pleased to hear that! Maybe you could introduce us sometime! PM me They long haul/freedom/domestic/link??? if longhaul I might just get my f
35 MIAMIx707 : What's wrong with the current tail? It has a great color and the Maori looks great against the blue-green background. They need to add some COLOR to t
36 FlyboyOz : New Livery? that's an old news! I saw that Koru didnt have shaded at the right side of the Koru on my B744's fin tail from SFO-AKL in August(with new
37 767ER : new livey sounds very exciting...will the remaining 744s that are to be refitted get the new livery??
38 Flyjetstar : I understand the changes are more substanial than that so I don't think what you saw is what is being discussed here.
39 777ER : New livery will only happen when a re-paint is due for the aircraft
40 Pacific777 : Hi I'm a new member. Just two questions. Will all the 767s be repainted? How long do you think it will be before the whole fleet is in the new livery?
41 777ER : Firstly welcome to a.net Pacific777, hope your enjoy your stay All depends on when they are due for a re-paint and when they are leaving the fleet, be
42 Post contains images Zkpilot : Welcome to a.net... please have seat backs and tray tables in their upright and locked positions for takeoff. The soon to be 5 remaining 763s aren't
43 NZ1 : 733's and ATR's in CHC, Q300's and B1900D's in GIS or CHC, A320's, B763's, B772's and B744's in AKL, unless thw whole aircraft is being painted. In t
44 Kiwiflyer791 : Yeah, agree it doesnt cost much, but it does add weight,and our planes aren't exactly light these days next they will be asking staff for ways to sav
45 Zkpilot : No, the paint gets stripped off first, so shouldn't weigh anymore... you are right about our planes being heavy though. They are heavy per seat (sinc
46 NZ1 : It won't add weight because the old paint is fully stripped off first, with exception of any composite areas which will be sanded back. Plus there wo
47 Kiwiandrew : is the wave staying ? I had the impression that it has been a troublesome feature of the livery since it was introduced - weren't there a lot of prob
48 Kiwiflyer791 : Yeah, they have had issues with the fuse having cut marks made in it around lap joints when the decals were installed. The A/C when they have been cy
49 Aerokiwi : Couldn't agree more!! Something about it just screams out "Wuss!" Though you have to wonder, with a significantly reduced profit of late, is this rea
50 Aerorobnz : Am sitting here in my new uniform and let's just say that the type isn't the only thing that does that. Think 'Vocational Guidance Councillor' by Mon
51 Zkpilot : One thing I noticed at work today was that none of the F/As were wearing the new hats... I wonder if thats just a first day "I don't want to be the on
52 Nzrich : well i will see how it all goes tomorrow its my first day in the new uniform tomorrow so will be interesting to see the new changes ..looking forward
53 Aerorobnz : really I noticed the opposite. Very few F/As on the evening flights didn't wear hats. I wore the tie today, and only had positive comments all day. I
54 Post contains images WesternA318 : Man, I can't wait until I reschedule my NZ trip, y'all make it sound like ANZ is turning into a whole 'nother airline.
55 Aerokiwi : This is the part I don't like. What's wrong with the gradiated look? To me, the lengthened "stem" looks very old fashioned, much like the livery of t
56 Aerorobnz : The Gradiated look has been getting flak because it is so inconsistent aircraft to aircraft. I actually prefer the new design koru. Yes, but I conduc
57 Aerokiwi : Perhaps, but they did have a bit of credibility when they said that pilots were peeved at the flat-front style of pants, which crease easier and are
58 Post contains links Xiaotung : Star Alliance Japan website recently updated Air NZ's logo, I wonder if that has something to do with the rebranding. Not much different only the colo
59 RichardJF : The Air Canada approach is good. NZ could possibly use a light turquoise base colour and change the lower wave stripe to dark blue. Existing NZ type i
60 Antskip : I think the coat of arms on the 4 engines of the EK A345 looks great, IMHO.
61 Flyjetstar : I think you are being pretty harsh about the whole thing. OK so you don't like it but to go on and on about it! I for one think its great but I accep
62 777ER : NZ is now being accused of being a cheap skate after it was revealed the new uniform was made in China and not in NZ Source: stuff.co.nz
63 Flyjetstar : Bashing NZ is almost a national sport now. It was TVNZ last year now they've found someone else to bash. When will get a credible media in this count
64 PureKiwi : I can't wait for the new tail colour it has been like that for as long as I can remember (I know 14 years is short to most people but its long for me)
65 NZ1 : Have been looking over colour layouts of the new scheme today at the 8am meeting. Looks bloody awesome. You guys are gonna love it. NZ1
66 Kiwiandrew : Hi NZ1 - looking forward to it - any info on an approximate date for the unveiling of ZK-NGE with the new fin ? (assuming that is still the first a/c
67 NZ1 : Depends on when it's C check is finished. From memory I think it around the end of April/early May. NZ1
68 777ER : Isnt ZK-OKE due before then? Will that arrive in the new colours?
69 Aerokiwi : I completely disagree. Now is the opportune time to go on and on about it. after all, if not now, then when? The airline has had an abysmal year in t
70 Nzrich : Well I hope it does look hot the new livery ... We do need a refresh and it would be a shame if the livery stayed the same but with just a colour chan
71 Nzfan : My first post! As my user name suggest, I love NZ, still it doesn't mean agree 100% with all the decisions made, especially with those new uniforms, b
72 RichardJF : I guess this is what you want to hear, it does sound positive.
73 Planemanofnz : NZ1, would there be any chance whatsoever that you could post a draft picture of what the new livery will look like?
74 NZT7 : I too would love to see the new livery on the aircraft, it will look great!! i personally like the uniform, i have had some comments made while at wor
75 NZ1 : I could point you to a link right now, but I won't. There are only a handful of people who have seen it, and it would be unfair of me to reveal it be
76 TG992 : It's a lot more comfortable to work in as cabin crew as well! All the crew on my flight liked it in terms of comfort (although we males had to endure
77 Post contains images AerorobNZ : I've only had good responses regarding that issue Everyone else has commented on how well it goes with my eyes....lol
78 Aerokiwi : Need there be any more reason to have these things incinerated immediatey? Seriously, that has got to be the very last thing anyone wants to see on a
79 Post contains images TG992 : Are you by any chance related to Don Brash or Michael Cullen, and do you wear grey shoes and/or jerseys with geometric patterns? Enquiring minds want
80 Zkpilot : Welcome to a.net Haha I have yet to hear that one, but have heard most females remarking how good the guys look in the new uniform (with the tie on)
81 NZFan : Thank you ZKPilot. I think the problem with those new uniforms is that people are not ready for it, all they want is some look that would be more conv
82 Nzrich : Well from what i heard i believe the cost of the uniform is closer to the $3000 mark at least for crew when you inc all the extras bags wraps etc.. Bu
83 Kiwiandrew : just wait til the idiots at the media realise that NZ's aircraft aren't made in New Zealand either ... and they cost a helluva lot more than the unif
84 Aerokiwi : A very New Zealand attitude. It's too hard so flag it. You don't work for the Police by any chance do you? Fashion should be the absolute lowest prio
85 NZFan : So I guess they should've just kept the 1970s uniforms then, at least no wasting time and money on them, and probably they should also have not repla
86 Aerokiwi : In times of abysmal profit performances, correct. When you're not laying off large swathes of staff, correct. When you're not threatening more with l
87 NZFan : it is all about perception. Times and people evolve and updating an image is all about keeping up and looking ahead. You have to see ahead of times ra
88 Zkpilot : maybe a bit more for crew with their extra bags etc. but not $3000. Remember whilst it is Zambesi, they are exactly one-off, hand tailored suits!! Th
89 Flyjetstar : Aerokiwi If the airline is in trouble one of the things it has to do is attract more people to fly it and image is key to that and part of that image
90 Pulkovokiwi : I am flying NZ81 to SIN on Sunday and look forward to seeing the new outfits. Lets face it no one likes change but its change or die. Most clothing so
91 V2fix : Aerokiwi You may consider youself a shareholder in Air NZ but I am afarid that gives you no additonal gravitas to your views than anyother person on t
92 Antskip : What might you mean by that? Are you saying that EK is growing with some sort of metaphorical fertilizer or something? Please expand....all I can rea
93 Pulkovokiwi : I don't understand you Aerokiwi. Is "Organic" the latest Fyfe buzzword at Quay Tower? EK knows were it is heading-I am far from sure that NZ does and
94 Post contains images V2fix : Sorry Guys. By Organic I mean an airline that is growing by its own capabilities and own revenue streams. IE. does not have unlimited buckets of cash
95 Pulkovokiwi : Going by your analogy NZ is hardly organic after having a Govt bailout, a more apt term would be "lucky".
96 Flyjetstar : NZ1 On a side note, apparantly SUH has been at CHC for six days. Can you shead some light on that? Cheers
97 Flyjetstar : I would assume he is referring to now not then. Back then it was the use of option #2 that got NZ into the place that necessitated the bailout.
98 Antskip : By that definition EK is at least as organic as NZ and QF...
99 Post contains images V2fix : I agree, the bailout could harldy be called 'organic'. I wonder what would happen if Air NZ had to go cap in hand to the government again ? I understa
100 Aerokiwi : PR nonsense. This is what I'm talking about when it comes to marketing. I've never heard of anyone chosing not to fly a carrier because they have an
101 Flyjetstar : By choosing to be discerning when it comes to media reporting does not then mean I swallow everything NZ says. However since the bailout, they have d
102 Flyjetstar : But the uniform is part of the overall experience/image. And maybe you are right, loads/yields were great but why stay there. Why not say "Hey custom
103 Antskip : EK is not one of them. Their annual financial and operating reports, publically available, show that very well. NZ and QF also. All 3 airlines are pr
104 Aerokiwi : If they valued me so much then why do they impose ridiculously stringent conditions on me as a frequent flyer? They CHARGE to join the programme (so
105 Flyjetstar : Yes you pay to join the program and then get benefits as a result. Simple. If you don't want those extra benefits don't join. That was your choice. W
106 Aerokiwi : Correct and they treated me and many other more valuable customers poorly, while other carriers welcomed me with open arms and expressed their apprec
107 Flyjetstar : Like I said that is just part of it, one way they can express their appreciation by making the environment you fly in as great as possible. If it is
108 Pulkovokiwi : Have to agree with Aerokiwi all his opinions and facts are spot on. Keep up the good work. I am sure Rob Fyfe reads this site. If he doesnt he shouldn
109 NZFan : Making you pay for the frequent flyer program is the same as my bank charging me every 6 months for their reward program. Everything has a price nowad
110 Flyjetstar : If he does he shouldn't be in the job! Running an airline based on the opinions of a web forum! Come on!
111 Pulkovokiwi : Haha maybe not but I wonder if Rob Fyfe takes flights on other airlines to see whether NZ is up to scratch. Do they employ "Mystery Flyers" like many
112 Zkpilot : Actually NZ just got rid of the ISD position.. replacing it with an FSM (Flight Service Manager). They basically made all the ISDs reapply for their
113 NZ1 : Yes I can. SUH flew NZ19 arriving on Tuesday morning. This aircraft is basically a spare so was cheaper to leave it on the ground in CHC to operate t
114 Post contains images Zkpilot : We have a spare??????? haha j/k is good that we have those T7s! sure helps out with the rest of the fleet! Agreed, I'd 2nd that. It has been lovely a
115 767ER : Oh really? I would love to know where you get your information from cos its usually a load of drivel..bit like your posts really. Now to someone with
116 Pulkovokiwi : Come on Brent-nasty nasty. I know the first thing Rob Fyfe does every morning is log onto this site to see what that prick Pulkovokiwi has said. He ha
117 Post contains images Zkpilot : I think it will be reinstated for next summer, and then continued on year round but with a T7 rather than a 744 as there simply isn't the demand for
118 777ER : It will only be a seasonal flight You said it
119 NZ1 : As others have said, it will be back towards the end of the year, but operated by a 777. Probably will be left at 3 times weekly to start with. Aeror
120 Flyjetstar : Thanks NZ1. Appreciate you taking the time to reply.
121 Nzrich : The new uniform helps to create the atmosphere on board more relaxed and less stuffy ie men with optional ties etc and getting rid of the ill fitting
122 Post contains images Eikiwi : Gday all, I don't work for NZ, as the name suggests, I work for EI .. so am not hugely qualified to speak on a lot of aspects in relation to some of t
123 Kiwiandrew : Hi Eikiwi I think NZ1 has already answered as accurately as he can at this stage - I can't wait to see pictures either
124 Eikiwi : Cheers kiwiandrew, Must've missed that one. Going blind in the old age .....! eikiwi
125 Kiwiandrew : no worries mate , I know the feeling ... and once a thread gets past 100 posts it is really easy to miss something
126 DJ738 : ...just curious - why name one's self after an airline, and list their slogan as your motto, when you've not even seen their uniform, and therefore n
127 Mattlad : when are the other planes arriving?
128 Flyjetstar : Random I know! I just like their ad campaign, someone with an awful singing voice exhorting people to fly JQ appeals to my sense of humor! I just hop
129 Zkpilot : are you refering to the 4 remaining T7s? By the end of January we should have all of them, NZ is however trying to get Boeing to bump this forward so
130 Nzrich : Q300 arrive at 6 week intervals i believe so will be quite a while before all the Saabs have been replaced
131 NZ1 : I think there is another 4 to arrive this year, and then the rest next year. Will double check tomorrow night when I am back at work. NZ1
132 Nzrich : Last Q300 arrives before july 2007 according to NZ website
133 Zkpilot : T7 OKE is due middle of May last time I heard, will be doing the usual entry into service stuff then be flying to HKG in June.
134 Aerokiwi : Tell that to just about every other airline frequent flyer scheme in the world. So frankly, I don't have to accept it. I joined before the internet h
135 NZFan : well I think that is the best thing to do, you're not happy, just don't fly them. I understand your point of view, but I have always disliked negativ
136 Mattlad : the next 777 is arriving in may?
137 Aerokiwi : Feel free to sit back and swallow whatever garbage the corporates throw your way then. This attitude of "just shut up an accept it" is pervasive in t
138 Zkpilot : yes that is the date it is due into service ZK-OKE. I think the reason why it is a few months after OKD rather than say 6 weeks is due to the need to
139 NZFan : this will be my very last response to Aerokiwi. You keep on bringing that "kiwi attitude" back quite a lot, and I'd rather have that attitude (even th
140 RichardJF : The Pacific wave I gather was changed from a decal to painted on because of the impracticality of a decal around the cargo door, however isn't it bett
141 NZ1 : Thats true. There is a fix in the pipeline for the fade, thats if it stays. NZ1
142 V2fix : So (returning to the original topic on this thread)... We should expect to see the a new Tail, but the Pacific Wave on the body is staying and remaini
143 Post contains images V2fix : oh (as this is a wide ranging subject thread) am I likely to see the new tails in London twice daily anytime soon ....  [Edited 2006-04-04 09:03:36]
144 Zkpilot : They really should be bigger! and the names should be in much larger letters like how QF has for their a/c. I would bet on it. London is always consi
145 Mattlad : what routes will launch and with witch aircraft
146 Zkpilot : Can you be more specific with your question? NZ is due to start a 2nd daily LHR flight late in the year. Shanghai is due to start by the end of the y
147 TG992 : I can confirm that the Pacific Wave will not be part of the new livery.
148 Brutie : Please tell us that it's going to be replaced with something else, and that there won't just be a white fuse with the name on?
149 TG992 : That hasn't been decided yet. All that's certain is the tail change. I doubt that it will be an all-white fuselage, however. (I have a weakness for bi
150 Post contains images DJ738 : eg. "flypacificblue.com" sorry, couldn't resist!
151 NZ1 : Due out on 17th April, and NO it won't be in the new scheme. As mentioned by TG992, the wave is not going to be part of the new colour scheme. NZ1
152 Zkpilot : Yeah I saw that on the Korunet today at work... I liked the Pacific wave... will be sad to see it go... Have you seen the new boards behind checkin c
153 Mattlad : witch planes will be used on each route, anyone want to elaborate? prehaps u NZ1
154 Post contains images Flyer88 : HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
155 Zkpilot : 744's to serve AKL-LAX-LHR, AKL-HKG-LHR, AKL-LAX NZ rotates its 744s around so you should see all of them at some stage somewhere along the 744 route
156 Flyer88 : ZKpilot ....can I ask u pls.....the YVR flights, if going via LAX or SFO will the pax have to go through the immigration process again or will this b
157 NZ1 : You asked this in another thread, and agin, not too sure what you are asking? There will not be any 744 flights to YVR from LAX during LAX downtime.
158 Post contains images Jacobin777 : I just saw NZ's 777-200ER take off from SFO about an hour ago...what a beauty!!!!!
159 AerorobNZ : That's correct.
160 Planemanofnz : Why won't NZ fly direct to YYZ? Will NZ be flying to HNL with a 320 soon, through an island?
161 Post contains images Zkpilot : Oh yeah I remember reading that a while back... oops If only the 787 was coming out about 2 years earlier... NZ would be ordering more left right and
162 Zkpilot : Aparently AC is commencing services to Australia. I just had another thought.... AKL-NAN-YVR, range-wise that would be better for 772ER, NZs T7s are
163 ZK-NBT : Thats just crazy, they can't fly everywhere, YYZ is further North and would require a 772LR probably be 17 hours or so. AC already fly to SYD from YV
164 Planetime : I though it was a 777LR???
165 ZK-NBT : That will be for YVR-SYD non stop the 772LR, pretty sure YYZ-LAX-SYD will use the larger 773ER. They don't need the range of the 772LR on LAX-SYD eve
166 Planetime : Did they annonce it yet, YVR-SYD and will the the YVR-HNL-SYD be stopped once this is in place?
167 ZK-NBT : I think they announced it. And yes YVR-HNL-SYD will be replaced by the new non stop YVR-SYD.
168 Planetime : That leaves HNL-SYD no flight other than the QF and Hawaiian Airlines. Wonder if UA will resume flights back on that route after AC withdraws from it
169 Kiwiandrew : I would doubt it - there must be a lot better yielding routes out there that UA could deploy their equipment on .
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