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Blair With BA 777 In BRU - Why Such A Big Plane?  
User currently offlineNijltje From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 241 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12138 times:

Hello all I just noticed a BA 777 at the abelag stand in BRU, I assume that this is to transport Blair for the EU top... why is he using a 777 to fly from London to Brussel? It has to be a massive cost, no?

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User currently offlineSteve6666 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12135 times:

It's for the massive ego he carries around with him.


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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24928 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12105 times:

Quoting Nijltje (Thread starter):
Hello all I just noticed a BA 777 at the abelag stand in BRU, I assume that this is to transport Blair for the EU top... why is he using a 777 to fly from London to Brussel? It has to be a massive cost, no?

He's on his way to Australia  Wink



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User currently offlineNijltje From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12027 times:

And he had to make a technical stop....tsss those 777  Smile

User currently offlineBBJII From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 850 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 11940 times:

It has been decided that when the Prime Minister travels on Official Business Holidays'....errr I mean Trips, he should now go by "big jet".

The is incase he is required for any reason to travel urgently to the other side of the world, whilst away from the UK.

There's probably a suply of suit's and shirts from Saville Row in the hold.

Flights within the UK, 737's are preferred for some reason.

On a side note: he needs the hold space for all those loans he get's.  Smile



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24928 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 11912 times:

Quoting Nijltje (Reply 3):
And he had to make a technical stop....tsss those 777 Smile

Just lucky he isn't using a Scarebus  Wink



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User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 11858 times:

Quoting Steve6666 (Reply 1):
It's for the massive ego he carries around with him

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No doubt Cherri is on board, on her way to make some fee-earning speaking engagements and earning herself thousands in the process.



MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 11798 times:

Quoting Nijltje (Thread starter):
why is he using a 777 to fly from London to Brussel? It has to be a massive cost, no?



Quoting Steve6666 (Reply 1):
It's for the massive ego he carries around with him.

If we complain about Blair using a 777, what are we gonna say about Bush using 2, sometimes 3 747's every time he goes out of country!


User currently offlineNijltje From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 11751 times:

Is Bush taking his 747 to travel 200 miles?

User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 11711 times:

Quoting Nijltje (Reply 8):
Is Bush taking his 747 to travel 200 miles?

Yes he does sometimes.


User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 11711 times:

Quoting Nijltje (Reply 8):
Is Bush taking his 747 to travel 200 miles?

There is another thread. Blair and 60 others are flying nonstop to Melbourne today. It would have been pointless in flying in on a 737, only to ferry the larger 777 for the next flight.

Give the head of states some break. There are always a reason for what they do. It is not a pissing contest. Edit: Mine are bigger than yours.

Bush uses the 757 on shorter routes, but to a less extent, than his predecessor Clinton. When protecting the US president there are very strict rules, and there are allot of security people there to protect him. People have a nasty habit of shooting the presidents and other VIPs when their life's are miserable.

Blairforce One - Brussels To Melbourne Nonstop (by Acefreighter Mar 24 2006 in Civil Aviation)

[Edited 2006-03-24 16:02:36]


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User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 11689 times:

Quoting BCAL (Reply 6):
No doubt Cherri is on board, on her way to make some fee-earning speaking engagements and earning herself thousands in the process.

Hard life for some socialists.


At least our PM simply leases an aircraft most of the time instead of pissing away many millions on a rarely used widebody for official visits etc.


User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 11592 times:

Quoting Nijltje (Thread starter):
Blair With BA 777 In Bru, Why Such A Big Plane?

He's compensating..



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User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 11582 times:

Why is Blair on his way to Melbourne? For the closing ceremony of the Commonwealth Games, so that he can stand with the world leaders?

Please tell me that this is not the reason.

 irked 



MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
User currently offlineBeany From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 11493 times:

Quoting BCAL (Reply 13):
Why is Blair on his way to Melbourne? For the closing ceremony of the Commonwealth Games, so that he can stand with the world leaders?

He will be at the closing ceremony although thats not the reason he is going.

He will be addressing the Australian Parliament in Canberra on Monday as well as holding talks with Aussie PM John Howard over Iraq.

I also hear he will be going to New Zealand as well.


User currently offlineStratofortress From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 178 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 11486 times:

I dont understand why people make such a big deal about heads of state using large aircraft to get around. Could they do it for cheaper? Probably! But in the big scheme of things, amount of money spent on VIP travel is peanuts. So what if Bush flies on a 747, and Blair takes 777 around? The money saved if they flew on a 757 or a 737 would be insignificant.


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User currently offlineNijltje From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 11486 times:

Thanks Blair to have a 777 in BRU as we unfortunatly have no sheduled 777 and might not expect one in the future what a shame.

User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 11460 times:

Quoting Beany (Reply 14):
I also hear he will be going to New Zealand as well.

And Indonesia.


User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 11444 times:

Quoting Stratofortress (Reply 15):
why people make such a big deal about heads of state

Here we go again. Blair is not a "head of state". He is a Prime Minister, who is normally the leader of the political party that has the greatest majority in the House of Commons. The Queen is the head of state in England & Wales, and Blair is her servant (although both Mr and Mrs Blair would like you to believe it was the other way round).

Quoting Beany (Reply 14):
He will be at the closing ceremony although thats not the reason he is going

Just like you tell your missus that you are popping out to buy a pint of milk, and then call at the pub!



MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4882 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11401 times:

Didn't Bush take to VC25s from DC to Rochester New York for his meet and greet with that autistic kid?

YOWza



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User currently offlineStratofortress From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 178 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11401 times:

BCAL: Thanks for that clarification. Learn something new every day.

Anyhow, you get my point.



Forever New Frontiers
User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11385 times:

Quoting BCAL (Reply 18):
The Queen is the head of state in England & Wales

What about Scotland and Northern Ireland?!
Her Majesty is head of state of the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland! England and Scotland have shared the same monarch since 1603 - that's 104 years before the Act of Union between England & Scotland. Sorry if I seem rather pedantic but I feel compelled to speak up for the home nations, particularly Scotland as there is a tendency to forget about them! I'm not Scottish, but nonetheless it is important not to forget the home nations!

Rant over!  Wink


User currently offlineLoungeLover From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11367 times:

He's flying non-stop to MEL? Wow, even in F that must be painful. I wonder what the load is. 60 people, does that include journalists, security, etc?

User currently offlineJoeCattoli From Italy, joined Aug 2005, 569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11348 times:

Quoting OyKIE (Reply 10):
Bush uses the 757 on shorter routes, but to a less extent, than his predecessor Clinton. When protecting the US president there are very strict rules, and there are allot of security people there to protect him. People have a nasty habit of shooting the presidents and other VIPs when their life's are miserable.

Never heard of common sense??? Don't tell me he's using the 747 to protect his security...  Yeah sure And BTW our life isn't miserable... you can live with less better than who "lives" with a lot of money sometimes...

Quoting Stratofortress (Reply 15):
The money saved if they flew on a 757 or a 737 would be insignificant.

Say it to people that lives with less than a $ a day...
I think A318E or 737corporate is the most I would accept... Even for heads of state. Just my opinion

Ciao
Joe


User currently offlineRipcordd From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1160 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11288 times:

The president needs his 747 its the flying white house he can do everything from it. If something should happen he could be airborne and still do his job thats the reason for the 747. When Clinton was in office we had not been attacked on our own soil yet so 757 would be better off. The Britts should think about goverment plane or planes for the PM

25 VV701 : Or - since the thread is about a flight to Melbourne - what about Australia? And then Queen Elizabeth is also head of state in Canada and . . . Well
26 MajorNelson : Hey, if that silly old queen of theirs can have a 777 for her trip to Australia, then why can't Tony? At least he's on government business - - what ne
27 Cedarjet : A fee earning engagement! How dare she! Chuck her down a well! Burn her at the stake! Evil witch.
28 VV701 : She is the Australian head of state. So I guess she has as much right in Australia as Bush has in Washington DC. So . . . Oh! Yeah! I see what you me
29 SLCUT2777 : I would like to see the USAF dump the 742s as AF1 and move over to 772 or 773 (one of each perhaps). The size of the White House Press Corp is the re
30 Concorde001 : If that very silly president of yours can have a 747 then I have no problems with Tony having a 777!
31 MajorNelson : Actually that clown of a president of ours has two 747s (which boggles my mind)! Fortunately he doesnt get to take them with him after he's finished!
32 Ikramerica : It's funny. Blair takes a flight, gives people the excuse to bash Bush or America instead. Yeah. If only they had 3 VC25s, your diatribe might be vali
33 Post contains images Concorde001 : I only made a snide remark against your president in response to the remark made against our Queen! My apologies if anyone is offended.
34 MajorNelson : And I made fun of both - so we're all level again.
35 TinkerBelle : They also have the ugly 'flying Pentagon' which accompanies the 2 VC25's on international trips. That's 3 747's.
36 Slovacek747 : Keep in mind that our wonderful president didn't buy the 2 747's. They were already there when he arived so don't blame him for flyin around in them!
37 AR385 : The Preident of the US does not fly on the 757, ever, unless both of the VC25 go technical or are in maintenance. The VP does, as the First Lady as we
38 TinkerBelle : He used the 757 to fly to Detroit last year.
39 VV701 : I think you got it the wrong way around. Tony Blair is Prime Minister of the Great Britain and Northern Ireland while the Queen is the Head of the Co
40 MajorNelson : Get-oudda-here !!!
41 Djmatthews : Our so called socialist Prime Minister should certainly NOT have his own plane(s). As pointed out, he is the Prime Minister of the UK, a tiny place. I
42 Drinkstrolley : To carry spare teeth.........
43 F22KA : Why would Tony Blair fly in a 777 to BRU? I could only think of two reasons: 1. 777 is one cool "bird" which not even heads of states can't resist. 2
44 Post contains images Nijltje : Our PM is flying an A300 international but he prefers to take the car and drive 2 hours to go from the south to the North of Belgium
45 RobTrent : In response to DJM I never figured you could relate size of country with size of plane ! The UK may be a small country geographically but it has possi
46 F22KA : Hey MajorNelson... Why don't you come to RO, since I get the impression that even you blod is blue. Here, you would feel "at home" and welcome among t
47 Freqflyr : Major Nelson said-- "Actually that clown of a president of ours has two 747s (which boggles my mind)! Fortunately he doesnt get to take them with him
48 AA777223 : Do those 757s that the government bought for VIP transport have the same protection package on them as the official VC-25? I figured they could do th
49 Post contains images RobTrent : Well, I guess it won't be airbus R
50 Post contains images Ikramerica : I don't condone that either. She's a nice lady. Now if the swipe was at her son, that would be more valid. I don't mind swipes against the president,
51 Tom12 : Given the choice i bet anyone of us would take the 777 over the A320 or 737 Tom
52 Cruiser : You mean the A310 that Mulroney bought off of Canadi>n when it needed money? Its sits in Trenton, ON waiting to take the PM wherever he wants to go.
53 Post contains images RobTrent : I'll second that. But I love T7's so it probably will not count R
54 Post contains images DFORCE1 : Speaking of which, I think it's time for a new livery on our polaris aircraft. Air Force One's livery is very nice. Not that I think it is justified
55 707lvr : Just so you know, there really are people in the U.S. who understand how foreign governments are organized and who appreciate that the travel logistic
56 Jbmitt : Sounds like a great idea, but I'm hesitant as a tax payer to contribute more money or further subsidize the news medias travels.
57 WAH64D : Hate to disappoint all you armchair accountants but the primary reason for a B772 is that there's plenty of space for journalists in the back, all of
58 DFORCE1 : I don't want to turn this into an anti-monarchy debate, but that silly queen is a complete waste of time. Fair point about the UK's economy, but to t
59 WAH64D : Yes, he succeeded marvelously in creating an even bigger international disaster than his father did in 1991. How much money has Bush cost the UK, Can
60 Jtbrown52 : Oh hush. You would take a 777 with you as well if you could. Admit it. Right now I wish I could use a Cessna 172 for a few destinations that I could e
61 Post contains links SATX : Wow, talk about a Pollyanna view of politics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollyanna It's more money than I'll ever have, thus it's not peanuts to me
62 Post contains images TinkerBelle : Oooh boy... This is turning political now.
63 IFEMaster : For an Aviation forum, there are some incredibly bigoted political posts on this thread. So how about some sensible questions... Where did the 777 dep
64 MajorNelson : You mean CanadiAn, don't you? You sound like you're describing Hyacinth Bucket! Tony PS Your "queen" is merely a celebrity. Kinda like Madonna. Oh, w
65 Post contains images RobTrent : Perhaps we should ask the secret service
66 WAH64D : So you agree with my previous statement then.
67 DFORCE1 : No, he doesn't mean CanadiAn, if you look at the planes, you'll clearly see the logo uses > instead of A. Not sure of the reasoning for this whether
68 MajorNelson : You made a few. Which one did you mean?
69 Jetdeltamsy : Little boys like big toys. GWBush travels with 2 747's (one for him to use, another for backup) PLUS multiple C130's carrying security personnel, veh
70 IFEMaster : *SIGH* This thread needs deleting.
71 Post contains images MajorNelson : LOL - - i know - -- he and I went back and forth (and back and forth ... and back and forth) about that in another thread a while back . . i asked "s
72 Post contains images Sabena332 : Exactly, hence: Patrick Shit, I just realized that I wasted my 10.000th post to annouce the locking of this thread. [Edited 2006-03-24 23:05:16]
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