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US Airways To End Service To Four Cities From PIT!  
User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11282 times:

WPXI TV Channel 11 Reporting:


WPXI is reporting that US Airways will end service to four more cities from PIT!



PIT-ITH
PIT-SCE
PIT-ELM
PIT-BGM

This is probably not a huge surprise to most of you. I am not surprised. The only good thing is that they only operate 1 or 2 dailies to each of these cities. I hope US can become profitable with the rest of the routes in PIT. I guess we will have to wait and see once again.

[Edited 2006-03-25 00:54:39]


Pittsburgh International: US Airways---160 daily departures! (52 destinations)
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User currently offlineB727 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 521 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11240 times:

I'm sure this will be a big hit to ITH and ELM. Not much service in either city. I wish the people of that area the best. I know my stepfather drives from ELM to SYR to get a decent deal on flights.

B727
Glenn


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11198 times:

Isn't really USAirways Express stopping service. I suppose the feed from these towns don't come close to cover expenses, and US Airways probably is looking to get rid of all cities still served by 19 passenger aircraft. Anyone know if these are EAS cities?

User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11185 times:

These are not EAS cities and yes this is US Airways Express. These routes were all operated with DH8s. Beech 1900s were not used on any of these routes!

[Edited 2006-03-25 00:58:50]


Pittsburgh International: US Airways---160 daily departures! (52 destinations)
User currently offlineGift4tbone From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11146 times:

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 3):
These are not EAS cities and yes this is US Airways Express.

So what will they (whoever the express carrier of those routes is) do with those aircraft? Are they planning to increase frequency to other express cities from PIT?

-Tony@PVD



Top 3 airports: PVD 26.0%(115 flights), PHL 15.6%(69 flights), PHX 12.0%(53 flights)
User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3421 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11146 times:

PIT-ITH was just once a day IIRC, not really the kind of connection that gives a whole lot of utility, espeacly when the only other airline there is NWA to DTW. All of these cities still have more substantial service to PHL.


When in doubt, one B pump off
User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4075 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11102 times:

Is this a result of the Mesa contract with US (East) expiring? Or were those routes flown by another carrier?

User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11069 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 6):
Is this a result of the Mesa contract with US (East) expiring? Or were those routes flown by another carrier?

All four of these routes were flown by Piedmont (on Dash 8's). They've been cut before and were reinstated, I believe last fall. Really, not a big surprise.



N670UW


User currently offlineGift4tbone From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11058 times:

Quoting N670UW (Reply 7):
They've been cut before and were reinstated, I believe last fall.

So is it a sorta seasonal thing?

-Tony@PVD



Top 3 airports: PVD 26.0%(115 flights), PHL 15.6%(69 flights), PHX 12.0%(53 flights)
User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11058 times:

Quoting Gift4tbone (Reply 8):
So is it a sorta seasonal thing?

I'm not sure. They were flown year-round when US Airways had a hub in PIT (with multiple frequencies - not just 1/day). They were cut as part of the gradual pull-down in regional service the last few years. I know if the intention is to keep them seasonal or if they just tried the routes again and they were unsuccessful.


N670UW


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6793 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days ago) and read 11006 times:

Well, the O&D to and from all four of those cities from PIT combined is probably countable on one hand. PIT continues to shrink for US/HP, with only 43 daily mainline departures for the two airlines (to 20 cities: BOS, CLT, ORD, DEN, FLL, RSW, LAS, LAX, MIA, MBJ [weekly], LGA, MCO, PHL, PHX, SAN, SFO, SJU [2 weekly], TPA, DCA, and PBI) combined in March. I'd be surprised if the PIT-Florida flights survive Southwest building up service on those routes from PIT or if B6 chooses to enter those city pairs.

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days ago) and read 10957 times:

Quoting ScottB (Reply 10):
Well, the O&D to and from all four of those cities from PIT combined is probably countable on one hand. PIT continues to shrink for US/HP, with only 43 daily mainline departures for the two airlines (to 20 cities: BOS, CLT, ORD, DEN, FLL, RSW, LAS, LAX, MIA, MBJ [weekly], LGA, MCO, PHL, PHX, SAN, SFO, SJU [2 weekly], TPA, DCA, and PBI) combined in March. I'd be surprised if the PIT-Florida flights survive Southwest building up service on those routes from PIT or if B6 chooses to enter those city pairs.

The O&D from all 4 of those cities to damn near ANY city is probably countable on one hand. Not to mention they're all driveable, especially SCE.

As for the Florida flights, if they survived Airtran I'm sure they can survive Southwest. Southwest hasn't killed them yet and they've had just about a whole year to get going. Why are people going to choose Southwest when they're not cheaper and many times have less choices? But, thanks for the koolaid swig of the day.


User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days ago) and read 10913 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 11):
if they survived Airtran

AirTran has all of one flight between Pittsburgh and Florida. Way to "survive."

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 11):
Why are people going to choose Southwest when they're not cheaper and many times have less choices?

Because Southwest frequently is less expensive.  confused 

If US is offering a deeply-discounted Y fare, and WN's initial discounted fares have sold out, they WN might not be cheaper. But Southwest isn't exactly hurting over high fares. Or try to fly US Airways at the last minute.



N670UW


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days ago) and read 10861 times:

Quoting N670UW (Reply 12):


If US is offering a deeply-discounted Y fare, and WN's initial discounted fares have sold out, they WN might not be cheaper. But Southwest isn't exactly hurting over high fares. Or try to fly US Airways at the last minute.

Honestly now, how many families are going to Florida "at the last minute?" We're talking Florida flights here, the great bastion of long-advance lead time leisure fares. And US is matching Southwest blow for blow in those kinds of deals. For that matter, US is matching Southwest blow for blow on many PIT-PHL last-minute fares.


User currently offlineHoosierCFI From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days ago) and read 10845 times:

I am surprised that they dropped these routes. They might have been flown by few, but US charged out the a** for these flight, especially last minute. Maybe one day US will learn that people would actually fly on the route if they didn't charge close to $1000 roundtrip. And I thought that US was becoming a discount carrier. Talk about your smoke and mirrors!

User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days ago) and read 10832 times:

Quoting B727 (Reply 1):
I'm sure this will be a big hit to ITH and ELM. Not much service in either city

These cities are not losing all service, just nonstop service to PIT.

ELM, SCE, BGM, and ITH all maintain their flights to PHL, and in the case of ITH, flights to LGA w/ a SF3 and BE1 as well.

Service remains a mix of CRJ, DH3, and DH8.



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User currently offlineCLEfan From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 299 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days ago) and read 10803 times:

Is there any possibility that one of the CO Connection carriers (Commutair or Regions Air) might step in and provide additional service to ELM or new service to ITH, SCE, and BGM to CLE? It seems that most flights from PIT that have been dropped end up being moved to CLE, although many of those were EAS routes.

User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4416 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days ago) and read 10784 times:
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Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 11):
Why are people going to choose Southwest when they're not cheaper and many times have less choices?

Because some people actually like WN and would like to support the airline that is keeping fares low, and not support this certain airline that slashed flights out PIT and basically said F-U to PIT and a lot of employees.

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 11):
But, thanks for the koolaid swig of the day.

Keep on drinking that kool-aid provided by US, oh wait you better check if it's blue it might be out of the toilet as a cost savings measure.

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 13):
And US is matching Southwest blow for blow in those kinds of deals. For that matter, US is matching Southwest blow for blow on many PIT-PHL last-minute fares.

Because if they didn't they would loose many passengers.

Quoting HoosierCFI (Reply 14):
Maybe one day US will learn that people would actually fly on the route if they didn't charge close to $1000 roundtrip. And I thought that US was becoming a discount carrier. Talk about your smoke and mirrors!

Kinda like the "old" HP, they only competed where they needed to and charged both legs elsewhere. At least WN doesn't charge much out of places like DAL and AMA where they control most of the market.


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days ago) and read 10777 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 17):

Keep on drinking that kool-aid provided by US, oh wait you better check if it's blue it might be out of the toilet as a cost savings measure.

Nice comment, but I actually dislike US too, so I'm not drinking their koolaid, I'm keeping it real.


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6793 posts, RR: 32
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10752 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 11):
As for the Florida flights, if they survived Airtran I'm sure they can survive Southwest. Southwest hasn't killed them yet and they've had just about a whole year to get going. Why are people going to choose Southwest when they're not cheaper and many times have less choices? But, thanks for the koolaid swig of the day.

It has nothing to do with Kool-Aid or whether WN or B6 or US is cheaper on the routes to Florida; rather, PIT, though it is touted as a "focus city," is not going to be a key market for the "new" US Airways going forward. If B6 or WN adds capacity to Florida from PIT, it gets that much harder for US to make money on those flights to Florida. Given that they are relatively short on aircraft and continue to cut back at PIT, it probably makes sense for them to redeploy the capacity to more profitable routes.


User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4075 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10696 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 17):
Keep on drinking that kool-aid provided by US, oh wait you better check if it's blue it might be out of the toilet as a cost savings measure.

Haha...cost savings measure? And you people are comparing US to WN? Oh, that is sweet.

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 17):
Because if they didn't they would loose many passengers.

And that's a good thing? What is the best option here?

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 17):
Because some people actually like WN and would like to support the airline that is keeping fares low, and not support this certain airline that slashed flights out PIT and basically said F-U to PIT and a lot of employees.

IF this certain airline had not slashed flights and cut jobs at PIT, it may very well not be pushing toward profitability today. Sorry, but PIT is better off with things now, since the "what if"s are worse than the status quo.

If US went under, there'd be a lot more airline employees without jobs than has happened with those cuts, and unfortunately, I very much doubt PIT would become a hub for anyone else if it DID happen.


User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2007 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10666 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 13):
Honestly now, how many families are going to Florida "at the last minute?" We're talking Florida flights here, the great bastion of long-advance lead time leisure fares.

I just booked a last minute trip to Florida...but Im the exception to the rule. Plus its for a job interivew so you know.


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4416 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 10564 times:
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Quoting HPRamper (Reply 20):
Haha...cost savings measure? And you people are comparing US to WN? Oh, that is sweet.

I guess I don't see anything WN has cut, they still have free peanuts/soda and snack packs on longer flights. Does the new US has free snack packs on there trancons? I don't think so. Does the new US charge low fares on PHL-CLT? I don't think so. Do they on PHL-PIT? Yes. Does WN on AMA-ABQ? Yes.

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 20):
And that's a good thing? What is the best option here?

My point is it's not like PIT is very loyal to US anymore.


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 10509 times:

Quoting LV (Reply 21):

I just booked a last minute trip to Florida...but Im the exception to the rule. Plus its for a job interivew so you know.

I'm sure there's a small percentage of people like you, but Florida is a very very predominantly leisure destination.


User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 10497 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 20):

IF this certain airline had not slashed flights and cut jobs at PIT, it may very well not be pushing toward profitability today.

Exactly. There is a reason US is projecting a profitable year. US is not stupid. They know what they are doing.

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 22):
I guess I don't see anything WN has cut

Uh buddy, there is a reason US has higher costs...because they provide more services. Don't you dare tell me WN has more frills than US.

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 22):
they still have free peanuts/soda and snack packs on longer flights. Does the new US has free snack packs on there trancons? I don't think so. Does the new US charge low fares on PHL-CLT? I don't think so. Do they on PHL-PIT? Yes. Does WN on AMA-ABQ? Yes.

Does WN give an oppurtunity for passengers to have a real meal? Does WN have F/C? Does WN have international flights? Does WN have airport clubs? Does WN fly to real small cities? The list goes on and on. Get real buddy.

-SOAC

[Edited 2006-03-25 04:01:04]


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25 HPRamper : WN is known for cutting costs...but not in the ways the average commuter will see. Things like not using wingwalkers at some stations, taxiing very q
26 CentPIT : Well, hopefully you don't think PIT should be loyal to US anymore. PIT is in debt because of them. US is going to try flights here and drop flights t
27 Post contains links CentPIT : Quoting ScottB (Reply 19): It has nothing to do with Kool-Aid or whether WN or B6 or US is cheaper on the routes to Florida; rather, PIT, though it is
28 Post contains images Iowaman : Oh yes, we all know that US is going to post a profit this year. Utter bullshit. Tell me what US provides from a passenger stand point that WN does n
29 HPRamper : To make a point, US is not leaving PIT to wither on the vine. Southwest will not be chasing US out of there anytime soon. US Release, March 24 "This w
30 HPRamper : I think SonOfACaptain already mentioned those. Unless you are asking the question to his answer, things like a first-class section, assigned seating,
31 HPLASOps : There are people in America that like to fly to other countries, believe it or not. There are people that actually like to have first class, airport
32 Tornado82 : Not to mention that there are still hundreds of commercially served airports in the nation that Southwest doesn't touch, and likely never will touch.
33 Iowaman : Well, I don't know what else to say. It's obvious a lot of America likes WN considering they are #1 in domestic passengers. Like I said and I'll say a
34 HPRamper : You sound like you are describing US of two years ago. The worst is past for the US employees, US is currently in better shape than DL, NW or UA, I'd
35 Supa7E7 : US serves about 45 of the 50 states. 200+ cities. Star Alliance connectivity. Transportation, that's what US provides that WN does not... for thousan
36 PVD757 : From what I hear, your hope may come true...
37 Post contains links CentPIT : Quoting PVD757 (Reply 36): From what I hear, your hope may come true... I know I keep hearing a nothing more than an I think they are soon. Maybe WN w
38 KingGeo3 : All of these cities are within the 4 hour driving distance that many of us road warriors use as our rule of thumb for whether we drive or fly. -KG3
39 MasseyBrown : You said it. SCE is in a different state, but ELM-ITH-BGM are three points of a triangle in New York with 32, 47, and 31 nm sides. If they had any br
40 ScottB : Well, PIT's mainline departures for US Airways are now under 25% of the US-coded departures at PIT. US/HP's mainline flights at LAS represent 72% of
41 HPRamper : You're only speaking of aircraft maintenance, all the other facilities wouldn't be needed for merely a maintenance stop. PIT will be more than a focus
42 Iowaman : To say that WN does not provide transportation is ludacris, who was #1 last year as far as carrying the most domestic passengers? WN. I bet WN carrie
43 Tornado82 : First off learn to spell, Ludacris is supposedly an "artist," the word is ludicrous. Nice to see a crappy "artist's" poor spelling has affected Ameri
44 Post contains links and images Braniff1960 : Does anyone know how long US has served these cities from PIT? 40 years maybe???? View Large View MediumPhoto © Bill Armstrong
45 Iowaman : Notice I said last year. OMA= cheaper fare + more choices + cheap parking. And you can't tell me WN is more greyhound than Allegiant. What does that
46 48V : ITH was the first city served by Robinson Airlines, which became Mohawk which merged into Allegheny, and so on, so I'd imagine ITH-PIT was a very earl
47 Tornado82 : It has to do with the fact that NOWHERE does WN have a network advantage over a mainline carrier, and there are countless disadvantages for WN.
48 BishopOfPHL : Wow, didn't take long for this thread about service to Ithaca, State College, etc. to turn into another Tornado "I hate WN" tyrade. It's really becomm
49 Tornado82 : All depends on your time of day, your holiness. You can get a 752 on US VS a 733 on WN too. And notice that ScottB was the one who brought up WN firs
50 HPRamper : I still haven't seen any bashing going on here, I've seen nothing but valid arguments. If Tornado has said anything untrue I'd like to see it pointed
51 Tornado82 : Going further, if I'm at Philly, I'd MUCH rather be on a US RJ (preferably the ERJ-145 which is my favorite plane) to be in the F concourse rather th
52 BishopOfPHL : Not saying that untrue things are being said, just saying the topic was taken off topic to where it always seems to go. Back on topic, I'd appreciate
53 Tornado82 : Without a doubt, although when I posted this same theory a few months ago I was told that I was full of (manure) and US was only right-sizing the mar
54 Vega : If you can't support your own airport better than that, maybe you should pack up and move to Pittsburgh. Actually, you're the one who is creating an
55 WN57787 : Actually, name me ONE city you can get to on WN in less connections than you can get to on real airlines from PIT. Not even those podunk intra-Texas c
56 Tornado82 : No, you see it is that bad over there. Even the natives say it.
57 PanAm330 : This may [barely] boost traffic in SYR now, but I certainly won't hold my breath for any results. Sad news, but I can't say that it's a surprise, real
58 Thegooddoctor : Syracuse is quickly becomming the only thing left in the region... I've heard lots of stories from my father about mainline service into UCA - does a
59 PanAm330 : It's a shame, really. A few years ago, SYR had sh*tloads of mainline service (mostly 737s) to CLT, PHL, BOS, PHL, and PIT. Nowadays, we're lucky to g
60 Tango-Bravo : To which I say, "put up or shut up." This may be the ultimate straw man legacy-lovers invoke in their pity parties and excuses for the legacies' mala
61 PanAm330 : Scratch that last post- SYR has 3 mainliners, 4 on Saturdays. 1 B737-400 each to DCA, PHL and CLT. If you count the soon-to-end Saturday service to Or
62 SonOfACaptain : That has nothing to do with it. I was simply replying to the guy who had the nerves to say that WN offered more than US. They don't make profits. Whi
63 Tornado82 : They can't ALL be in the red. The $100 premium on most routes to fly a 64 mile flight to PHL from ABE comes to mind. Considering that r/t that comes
64 SonOfACaptain : Oh yes, I was just saying express as a whole. -SOAC
65 HPRamper : Why is it that the main point of any WN supporter's post, when asked to come up with one thing, above all the rest, that makes WN better and cheaper
66 KITH : I remember 5x DC 9's/F100's and the occasional 737 to PIT daily from ITH right before 2000. How times have changed, shame though as it enabled pax to
67 Post contains images Stirling : Utica is a curious story. Deja Vu' all over again. American Airlines was the original airline in the area. When they pulled out of the milk-runs thro
68 MasseyBrown : I doubt they would take the one action in order to justify the other; that would make the process more expensive than it already is. They have planne
69 CentPIT : Oh get over it Vega! Maybe you should just realize that PHL is a mess! Tornado82, I don't know if you have ever watched it, Our Regions Business on W
70 Steeler83 : I hope they get this done too; PIT is in a great need of international service. Pittsburgh is a growing market, especially in business, and the busin
71 Tornado82 : Well hell, according to some people here, we should thank USAirways just for the privilege of going to PHL.
72 Vega : No, you can thank WN if you prefer them.
73 ATCT : You forgot to mention that service to Morgantown, Parkersburg, and Clarksburg WV is being cut. Air Midwest lost the Essential Air Service contract. Th
74 Steeler83 : Yeah, thanks a lot... and for charging a minimum of $217 one way for that route... I would like to thank WN for coming to PIT, period. Hopefully we'l
75 HoosierCFI : (Note: we won the service on the promise that we'll operate larger aircraft on the routes). At least it will be guaranteed that it will be on an aircr
76 Steeler83 : Hell, even if he does move to Pittsburgh and wants to fly overseas on US, he still has to connect in that overcrowded, dismal, claustrophobia-inhanci
77 HPRamper : Unfortunate. PNE could be very successful, pulling traffic from New Jersey as well as the Philly area. Even as a regional-only station it would relie
78 Post contains images Tornado82 : That right there is the BS flag. My girlfriend flew that route, over Christmas, for $48 one way including tax, on US, on a 752. It's still in that ba
79 Steeler83 : Since when is $217 a made up number??? Perhaps it was a figment of my imagination. I should have said that this was right before WN even anounced PIT
80 Post contains images Tornado82 : Yes, you very well should have said that it was before WN came to town. If you're going to MU though, why not fly the Beech PIT-LNS and avoid that ho
81 Post contains images N670UW : Oh, I'm sure she did. But would she have paid $48 o/w if WN had not been in the market? Probably not. There's a reason O&D traffic in the PIT-PHL mar
82 Post contains images Tornado82 : There's a reason PHL is more congested than ever too, and it wasn't USAirways. But for those of us driving the turnpike, or I-68, it's smoother saili
83 Steeler83 : Thank you! THAT was the point that I was trying to make earlier...
84 Tornado82 : I'm not denying that point, but my point has always been that you're better off driving that route because with the way Philly struggles to ever move
85 Mah584jr : I've said this in the past and I'll say it again. PHL needs to be expanded soon or things are really going to take a turn for the worst. We have some
86 Steeler83 : I agree with you fully, but as far as adding more terminals as well as runways (THAT AIRPORT ONLY HAS TWO RUNWAYS CAPABLE OF HANDLING THE MAINLINE AI
87 Tornado82 : Well for those people southern/eastern suburban PHL folks, they need to support their airport, ACY, so that it continues to keep real commercial serv
88 Mah584jr : Steeler83, you're def. correct in saying that PHL does not have a lot of space. The residents that surround the airport, are strictly opposed to expan
89 Steeler83 : Well Mah584jr, If I lived around Philadelphia and worked for the city, I would be asking when to sound the alarm. I am getting myself in the job marke
90 Mah584jr : I'm not saying that the citizens of PHL don't pay taxes, I'm just saying that they don't pay taxes to fund the airport or its operations. I'm not sur
91 Steeler83 : Yeah, thanks for the clarity. Then I should know that everybody has to pay city/county taxes... Believe me, if I did have a plan, I would have sent i
92 Post contains links Mah584jr : http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/local/14165425.htm http://www.faa.gov/news/news_story.c...=fact_sheet&year=2005&date=122005a These two articl
93 TIA : I think that idea has been pondered before, but nothing came of it. Since I am familiar with ITH, I could see why. A lot of ITH traffic is college ba
94 BishopOfPHL : Quick question on potential int'l service to PIT...what is the customs/immigration status there? It seems there is little or no international service
95 USPIT10L : I love what WN has done for the PIT market, but remember the pull-down of US' hub is what causes the dramatic increase in local traffic. Also, remembe
96 Steeler83 : That is true. As soon as US stripped its hub at PIT, about a month later WN has anounced service to PHL, MDW, LAS, and MCO, with already added servic
97 USPIT10L : True, but those are also the most underserved major city-pairs from PIT. If the new US Airways wants to use their focus cities to the max, they need t
98 Post contains images Steeler83 : I am sure that FL would have something to do with that... Yeah, AA has stripped its mainline service entirely, I believe at PIT Served by NW, like yo
99 Tornado82 : US is afraid of other carrier's hubs, even at their much more substantial PHL. PHL-IAH, US flys E70's vs CO's 737's. PHL-MSP US flys CRJ's vs a collec
100 Post contains images Steeler83 : They US should be afraid of the crjs that AA is going with on their PIT-DFW route? Or will AA still run mainline mad dogs on that route as I think th
101 USPIT10L : When US pulled the plug on PIT-ATL, the deliveries for E170s and RJs had stopped completely because of the second bankruptcy. FL is keeping DL honest
102 Steeler83 : Good point USPIT10L, I have to say... Although FL might want to consider another smaller hub someplace either in the Northeast or Midwest. There was a
103 Post contains images Tornado82 : It's already CRJ-700's, has been for eh... 6 weeks? AT BEST you'd see an E70/CR7 from US on that route. No way in all of creation you'll see mainline
104 Post contains images HPRamper : I'd think CO @ EWR would be a closer comparison, for obvious reasons
105 Tornado82 : Yeah but there's no real flights between EWR-PHL other than little connection flights. I was trying to talk real routes.
106 Post contains images HPRamper : Ah I gotcha, I know what you mean
107 FCYTravis : I think part of the problem is that US has got no planes to spare right now. People don't realize how many 737s and Airbuses got stripped out of the s
108 ATCT : Still working out final stuff on the contracts w/ CO n such. I was supposed to hear back today from the inflight manager about our class date for tra
109 CentPIT : These dates have not been announced. All of these cities are still currently served from Pittsburgh! Delta Airlines has quite good loads on PIT-ATL,
110 Steeler83 : That is a shame. Things, I believe, are looking up for this airline. They are doing very well for the time being, and I think they'll be making money
111 USPIT10L : I'm aware DL has good loads, and they probably are making good money on PIT-JFK, but ATL and CVG fly acres of empty seats on non-peak days (Tuesday,
112 Steeler83 : Really, DL has sizable loads on PIT-ATL, I thought that DL has anounced that it was ending service to ATL from PIT as a result of better loads on FL.
113 USPIT10L : DL is still flying MD88s to ATL, nine a day, four CVG CRJs a day and 3 JFK CRJs a day. I just know that 60% of the time, the flights are not completel
114 Steeler83 : So DL does still operate mainline service between PIT and ATL. Then I must have read really wrong, and pardon the above post...
115 USPIT10L : Yes. MD-88s are mainline DL. I used to work for Delta Global Services on the ramp, so I'm intimately familiar with DL. I also did a lot of cabin servi
116 Steeler83 : I wonder if you know of anyone offers an internship either at US or even at ACAA. I am trying to do an internship within transportation and planning,
117 USPIT10L : Well, US Airways doesn't do that sort of thing anymore, mostly because of security and safety issues, but ACAA might. When I went to Boyd School, I ha
118 Post contains images Steeler83 : I will do that, and welcome to my respected users list
119 Post contains links Jdwfloyd : US express is hireing ramp agents in PIT right now. There are a few group interviews coming up soon. Check out Job Openings
120 Newkai : BGM is pretty solid, in fact (excluding the PIT cuts) more than in a long time. With US to PHL, UA to IAD, NW to DTW, and DL to CVG. All express of c
121 Mah584jr : Perhaps the very reason why US ended the PIT-BGM flights.
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