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Is This Plane Really In Service?  
User currently offlineJunior1970 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 15185 times:

I was looking to pictures on the website when I ran across this one.

I am wondering.....is this plane really in service and does AF have a hand in their cleaning schedule ?
Or is this plane stored or gounded maybe ?

If it is still in service, this is the dirtiest plane, currently in service, that I have ever seen.

thx  Smile

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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6807 posts, RR: 77
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 15173 times:

It has been stored at Lagos since November 2003. Planespotters.net even says it's a write-off.

http://www.plane-spotters.net/Produc...ch.html?searchtext=zs-oos&search=2


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7602 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 15141 times:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20031129-3

User currently offlineJunior1970 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 15107 times:

Thanks guys.

I appreciate this.
Made me aware of some nice websites too which I didn't know about  Smile


User currently offlineAJO From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 575 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 15046 times:

Or just click the reg under the photo, you'll come across other photos with a description, such as this one:

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Photo © Sean Mendis




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User currently offlineRolfen From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 15009 times:

Engine 2 seems to be lower than the others and the hatch is left open on engine 1.


rolf
User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5710 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 14870 times:

Would it be as dirty if it was in service? Bearing in mind that the more hours in flight the more productive an aircraft is, surely one that spent most of its time flying would be above the clouds, therefore unable to attract the rain-borne pollution like the one in the photo?

User currently offlineNEMA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 716 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 14690 times:

Still a damn shame to see a magnificant symbol of technology and our time in such a state.


There isnt really a dark side to the moon, as a matter of fact its all dark!
User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 14494 times:
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Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 6):
Would it be as dirty if it was in service?

Definitely not, I remember seeing this plane at JNB and it was pristine.



After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlinePIA777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1738 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 14466 times:

Funny how "Hydro" is in that planes name. It can use some
"Hyrdro" about now.

PIA777



GO CUBS!!
User currently offlineEuclid From South Africa, joined Apr 2005, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 14115 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 9):
Definitely not, I remember seeing this plane at JNB and it was pristine.

The Hydro group of companies has a bit of an obsession with cleanliness. I used to work for Hydro Holdings in Silverton, Pretoria for a short while and every vehicle bearing their name was kept spotless. The workshop floor was even kept as shiny as any floor in an army barracks before inspection. The cleaners would wash the floors every day from front to back.

Such a shame this plane is now in such a sorry state.


User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 14056 times:

Quoting Junior1970 (Thread starter):
I am wondering.....is this plane really in service and does AF have a hand in their cleaning schedule ?



Quoting PIA777 (Reply 8):
I have seen dirtier AF planes.

From what I have seen AF have really cleaned up their act, literally. Much rarer to see a very dirty plane from them now. IB have taken their place, have you seen the state of some of their planes?!

Sam



Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 14040 times:

You guys writing tongue in cheek? I have NEVER seen an in-service airliner THAT dirty, including of Air France.

Anyway, that airplane was damaged beyond economical repair awhile back, and is now being left to rot. It's an eyesore.


User currently offline777WT From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 875 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12195 times:

Quoting Rolfen (Reply 5):
Engine 2 seems to be lower than the others and the hatch is left open on engine 1.

That's because the struts on the MLG on the left side is deflated in part or fully, due to a leak.

Look at the wings, it's not level.


User currently offlineHoya From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 11773 times:

If you look through the photos at the aviation-safety.net database link posted above, the aircraft sustained a lot of damage that is not seen on the pictures on airliners.net . The left wing was damaged heavily, particularly the flaps, and the left under-wing landing gear was ripped out during the accident. That is why the plane is leaning to its left, as part of the landing gear is missing. It's a write-off because it would be way too costly to fix.


Hoya Saxa!!
User currently offlineNADEEM From Pakistan, joined Mar 2006, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 11202 times:

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 9):
Funny how "Hydro" is in that planes name. It can use some
"Hyrdro" about now.

Yup. Just how many loonies would it take to wash this baby in your local car wash...............er..... plane-wash....
 Big grin


User currently offlineAnMCOSon From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9687 times:

Quoting 777WT (Reply 13):
Look at the wings, it's not level.

Thats because you don't have your left shoe on.  duck  Big grin



What the? Did everything just jump around? Or did my brain just stroke off there for a second?
User currently offlineSATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 9469 times:

So is the subsequent damage from heavy pollution or what?


Open Season on Consumer Protections is Just Around the Corner...
User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8972 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
It has been stored at Lagos since November 2003. Planespotters.net even says it's a write-off

Good! I hope she enjoys her eternal jet nap and stays routed to the ground.



I'm Zippyjet & I approve of this message!
User currently offlineMrMcCoy From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8842 times:

This aircraft was delivered to El Al in 75', El Al leased it to CAL Cargo, and then the aircraft was finally sold to Hydro in 00'. She flew for 2.5 years until her destruction upod landing in Lagos in 03'. The aircraft was worth more as a hangar queen as you see her than she was restored and placed back in service.

The wing spar was damaged, the flaps were damaged, as you can see the engines took a beating and the gear were all but holding the aircraft from the tarmac below. The aircraft owners can no longer be reached via the convential methods, so the future of this aircraft (even for part out, training, scrap, etc.) is uncertain. I do remember her being IMMACULATELY clean inside--smelled like a sanitized hospital inside.

 duck Mr. McCoy duck 



It only takes five years to go from rumor to standard operating procedure.
User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8718 times:
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Quoting MrMcCoy (Reply 19):
I do remember her being IMMACULATELY clean inside--smelled like a sanitized hospital inside.

Very appropriate as the owners used to own a number of private hospitals in South Africa.



After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineMrMcCoy From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8524 times:

Indeed. Few aircraft stick out so heavily in mind, but I do remember this one quite well. Eeek.. I just noticed at least 3 typos in my last post!  duck 


It only takes five years to go from rumor to standard operating procedure.
User currently offlinePelican22 From Ireland, joined Mar 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8165 times:

This aircraft is the subject of legal action by Hydro Air Cargo against the Nigerian Government. Hydro are trying to get the Nigerian Government to pay for the damage to the aircraft ( I d'ont think there is much chance of that.)after ATC at Lagos instructed the captain to land on a runway that was closed for repairs and the aircraft collided with the construction equiptment that was on the closed runway.

User currently offlineSpencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1635 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7601 times:

One of when she laid in the mud.
http://aviation-safety.net/photos/di...oto.php?id=20031129-3&vnr=5&kind=C
Spencer.



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User currently offlineGlider From Belgium, joined Feb 2001, 297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7445 times:

It's realy a shame she has been written off... She was a frequent visitor here in Brussels; a visitor I looked out for every time. Imagine, after all those visits, I never had a good chance to take a picture of her in her glory days...:-s

25 Post contains links and images JHSfan : This one is in service... View Large View MediumPhoto © Jørgen Syversen I don't know why but this c/s makes me think of AF. - JHSFan
26 Drinkstrolley : Reminds me of the 732s Ryanair just got rid of!!!
27 MrMcCoy : While the actual details of this transaction are confidential, I can say that this aircraft has been delivered to Marana for a B check and repaint. P
28 VC-10 : I understand the r/way closure was notamed and you have to remember the captain is ultimatly responsible for his a/c. When I took my radio license af
29 Post contains links and images Soups : MyAviation.net photo: Photo © SOUPS Plane is sitting Very close to the international terminal
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