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Is This Plane Really In Service?  
User currently offlineJunior1970 From United States, joined Dec 2004, 154 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11586 times:

I was looking to pictures on the website when I ran across this one.

I am wondering.....is this plane really in service and does AF have a hand in their cleaning schedule ?
Or is this plane stored or gounded maybe ?

If it is still in service, this is the dirtiest plane, currently in service, that I have ever seen.

thx  Smile

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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 3102 posts, RR: 71
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11574 times:

It has been stored at Lagos since November 2003. Planespotters.net even says it's a write-off.

http://www.plane-spotters.net/Produc...ch.html?searchtext=zs-oos&search=2


PH


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice...
User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 4547 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11542 times:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20031129-3

User currently offlineJunior1970 From United States, joined Dec 2004, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11508 times:

Thanks guys.

I appreciate this.
Made me aware of some nice websites too which I didn't know about  Smile

User currently offlineAJO From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11447 times:

Or just click the reg under the photo, you'll come across other photos with a description, such as this one:

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Photo © Sean Mendis




Ryanair: never again!
User currently offlineRolfen From Lebanon, joined Jan 2006, 1474 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11410 times:

Engine 2 seems to be lower than the others and the hatch is left open on engine 1.


rolf
User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 4260 posts, RR: 43
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 11271 times:

Would it be as dirty if it was in service? Bearing in mind that the more hours in flight the more productive an aircraft is, surely one that spent most of its time flying would be above the clouds, therefore unable to attract the rain-borne pollution like the one in the photo?

User currently offlineNEMA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 11091 times:

Still a damn shame to see a magnificant symbol of technology and our time in such a state.


There isnt really a dark side to the moon, as a matter of fact its all dark!
User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 7221 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10895 times:
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Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 6):
Would it be as dirty if it was in service?

Definitely not, I remember seeing this plane at JNB and it was pristine.


Moral indignation is just jealousy with a halo
User currently offlinePIA777 From United States, joined Dec 2003, 1713 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10867 times:

Funny how "Hydro" is in that planes name. It can use some
"Hyrdro" about now.

PIA777


GO CUBS!!
User currently offlineEuclid From South Africa, joined Apr 2005, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10516 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 9):
Definitely not, I remember seeing this plane at JNB and it was pristine.

The Hydro group of companies has a bit of an obsession with cleanliness. I used to work for Hydro Holdings in Silverton, Pretoria for a short while and every vehicle bearing their name was kept spotless. The workshop floor was even kept as shiny as any floor in an army barracks before inspection. The cleaners would wash the floors every day from front to back.

Such a shame this plane is now in such a sorry state.

User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom (England), joined Aug 2003, 3976 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10457 times:

Quoting Junior1970 (Thread starter):
I am wondering.....is this plane really in service and does AF have a hand in their cleaning schedule ?



Quoting PIA777 (Reply 8):
I have seen dirtier AF planes.

From what I have seen AF have really cleaned up their act, literally. Much rarer to see a very dirty plane from them now. IB have taken their place, have you seen the state of some of their planes?!

Sam

User currently offlineDuke From Czech Republic, joined Sep 1999, 1118 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10441 times:

You guys writing tongue in cheek? I have NEVER seen an in-service airliner THAT dirty, including of Air France.

Anyway, that airplane was damaged beyond economical repair awhile back, and is now being left to rot. It's an eyesore.

User currently offline777WT From United States, joined Jan 2005, 861 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8596 times:

Quoting Rolfen (Reply 5):
Engine 2 seems to be lower than the others and the hatch is left open on engine 1.

That's because the struts on the MLG on the left side is deflated in part or fully, due to a leak.

Look at the wings, it's not level.

User currently offlineHoya From United States, joined Jun 2004, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8174 times:

If you look through the photos at the aviation-safety.net database link posted above, the aircraft sustained a lot of damage that is not seen on the pictures on airliners.net . The left wing was damaged heavily, particularly the flaps, and the left under-wing landing gear was ripped out during the accident. That is why the plane is leaning to its left, as part of the landing gear is missing. It's a write-off because it would be way too costly to fix.


Hoya Saxa!!
User currently offlineNADEEM From Pakistan, joined Mar 2006, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7603 times:

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 9):
Funny how "Hydro" is in that planes name. It can use some
"Hyrdro" about now.

Yup. Just how many loonies would it take to wash this baby in your local car wash...............er..... plane-wash....
 Big grin

User currently offlineAnMCOSon From United States, joined Oct 2005, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6088 times:

Quoting 777WT (Reply 13):
Look at the wings, it's not level.

Thats because you don't have your left shoe on.  duck  Big grin


What the? Did everything just jump around? Or did my brain just stroke off there for a second?
User currently offlineSATX From United States, joined Apr 2005, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5870 times:

So is the subsequent damage from heavy pollution or what?


If you really want more of the same, then by all means keep voting for the Grand Oil Party.
User currently offlineZippyjet From United States, joined Sep 2001, 2500 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5373 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
It has been stored at Lagos since November 2003. Planespotters.net even says it's a write-off

Good! I hope she enjoys her eternal jet nap and stays routed to the ground.


I'm Zippyjet & I approve of this message!
User currently offlineMrMcCoy From United States, joined Sep 2005, 377 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5243 times:

This aircraft was delivered to El Al in 75', El Al leased it to CAL Cargo, and then the aircraft was finally sold to Hydro in 00'. She flew for 2.5 years until her destruction upod landing in Lagos in 03'. The aircraft was worth more as a hangar queen as you see her than she was restored and placed back in service.

The wing spar was damaged, the flaps were damaged, as you can see the engines took a beating and the gear were all but holding the aircraft from the tarmac below. The aircraft owners can no longer be reached via the convential methods, so the future of this aircraft (even for part out, training, scrap, etc.) is uncertain. I do remember her being IMMACULATELY clean inside--smelled like a sanitized hospital inside.

 duck Mr. McCoy duck 


It only takes five years to go from rumor to standard operating procedure.
User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 7221 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5119 times:
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Quoting MrMcCoy (Reply 19):
I do remember her being IMMACULATELY clean inside--smelled like a sanitized hospital inside.

Very appropriate as the owners used to own a number of private hospitals in South Africa.


Moral indignation is just jealousy with a halo
User currently offlineMrMcCoy From United States, joined Sep 2005, 377 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4925 times:

Indeed. Few aircraft stick out so heavily in mind, but I do remember this one quite well. Eeek.. I just noticed at least 3 typos in my last post!  duck 


It only takes five years to go from rumor to standard operating procedure.
User currently offlinePelican22 From Ireland, joined Mar 2006, 65 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4566 times:

This aircraft is the subject of legal action by Hydro Air Cargo against the Nigerian Government. Hydro are trying to get the Nigerian Government to pay for the damage to the aircraft ( I d'ont think there is much chance of that.)after ATC at Lagos instructed the captain to land on a runway that was closed for repairs and the aircraft collided with the construction equiptment that was on the closed runway.

User currently offlineSpencer From United Kingdom (England), joined Apr 2004, 1086 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4002 times:

One of when she laid in the mud.
http://aviation-safety.net/photos/di...oto.php?id=20031129-3&vnr=5&kind=C
Spencer.


To Fly To Serve.
User currently offlineGlider From Belgium, joined Feb 2001, 295 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3846 times:

It's realy a shame she has been written off... She was a frequent visitor here in Brussels; a visitor I looked out for every time. Imagine, after all those visits, I never had a good chance to take a picture of her in her glory days...:-s

User currently offlineJHSfan From Denmark, joined Apr 2004, 469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 25, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3472 times:
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This one is in service...

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I don't know why but this c/s makes me think of AF.

- JHSFan


Look at me, I´m riding high, I´m the airbornmaster of the sky...
26 Drinkstrolley: Reminds me of the 732s Ryanair just got rid of!!!
27 MrMcCoy: While the actual details of this transaction are confidential, I can say that this aircraft has been delivered to Marana for a B check and repaint. P
28 VC-10: I understand the r/way closure was notamed and you have to remember the captain is ultimatly responsible for his a/c. When I took my radio license af
29 Post contains links and images Soups: MyAviation.net photo: Photo © SOUPS Plane is sitting Very close to the international terminal
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