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Finally Some Growth At MCI  
User currently offlinePhuebner From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 244 posts, RR: 5
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4970 times:

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/business/14181863.htm

My hometown airport is finally getting some business.


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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4943 times:

As long as the Greater Kansas City Chamber of Commerce keeps bring in conventions, traffic and boardings at MCI will keep growing.
safe



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User currently offlineFoxecho From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 746 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4885 times:

My Kingdom for a 757 (or 2) that are not diverts!

Andrew
JFK/MEM/MCI



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User currently offlineMCIFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4865 times:

Quoting Foxecho (Reply 2):
My Kingdom for a 757 (or 2) that are not diverts!

Then give up said Kingdom for UA from MCI to/from DEN! They run a number of 752s on that route.  Smile


User currently offlineL1329II From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4827 times:

Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 1):
As long as the Greater Kansas City Chamber of Commerce keeps bring in conventions, traffic and boardings at MCI will keep growing.
safe

Bingo! I think KCMO and KCK need to do more to "better" the image of this area to attract more people. A relative of mine just came off a cruise from from FLL and the first thing she said was "I can see the terminal here has been remodeled but when I step off this plane I still think KC is a dump! MCI looks like an overgrown bus station." Her words not mine but its true.

We need more O&D traffic! Maybe another hometown airline???


User currently offlinePhuebner From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 244 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4763 times:

Quoting L1329II (Reply 4):
MCI looks like an overgrown bus station

I don't think airports have a lot to do with how one person views a city. I think if that was true every city will probably be in trouble and if that person decided that a city was a dump because of the terminal....well. A native Kansas Citian that I am has a different view of that city. I talk to alot of people who think that KC has nothing going for it but then the few that visit that city are always surprised how beautiful it is. The plaza, Nelson Art Gallery, etc. makes it one of the best. Essentially, L132911, you're right. Both cities are doing a piss poor job getting the word out on the beauty of KC.



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User currently offlineFoxecho From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 746 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4750 times:

Quoting MCIFlyer (Reply 3):
Then give up said Kingdom for UA from MCI to/from DEN! They run a number of 752s on that route.

ya dude  Smile only I wish my airline/employer would put some 757s into MCI like they used to... hehe

We do manage to fill up most MD-88s and 738s every day, not to mention the RJ's to MCO!

Andrew
JFK/MEM/MCI



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User currently offlinePhuebner From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 244 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4743 times:

Quoting Foxecho (Reply 6):
We do manage to fill up most MD-88s and 738s every day, not to mention the RJ's to MCO

I remember when I lived there that airlines flying out of there always had full planes.



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User currently offlineMCIB757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 280 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4709 times:

I read that article today too, yes its great to finally see some growth, i really like that YX continues to expand and i hope they do really well with the new routes.

As far as the image goes, its a interesting situation, esp between KS and MO. But the airport is so far out of town, KC doesnt look like much, but its getting a lot better with finally a lot growth around there, Zona Rose etc.... But i do think KC's beauty is underappreciated.....and really lack a lot of recognition....but that could all change for the better with the April 4 vote which would get us the Superbowl and MLB All-star game. But who knows what the voters of Jackson county will do.....but if they vote no, expect the Chiefs to move to KS



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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4702 times:

Greeting!
I am new here, this is my very first post. I've been lurking for quite some time now, but this thread prompted me to finally go ahead and join.  Smile



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User currently offlinePhuebner From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 244 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4689 times:

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 9):
Greeting!
I am new here, this is my very first post. I've been lurking for quite some time now, but this thread prompted me to finally go ahead and join

Glad to finally convince you to join.  bigthumbsup 

Quoting MCIB757 (Reply 8):
But the airport is so far out of town

I think KC was smart in putting it that far out. It prevented issues that SAN and LAX are having.



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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4677 times:

I remember a lot of widebody traffic at MCI when I was a kid. DC-10's and Tristars were an every day thing. I don't think MCI ever got 747 traffic, except empty to the TWA overhaul base.
I came in from ORD on a UA 733 last November and was shocked to see a Hawaiian 763 at the gate. I have no idea what it was doing here. Too bad my camera was stowed.  Sad
BTW, I took that UA 752 flight from DEN a couple of years ago. It was in the middle of a blizzard and it was some ride.

I may be a little biased, but I think MCI is wonderful airport. The round terminals are somewhat unique these days and you can easily go straight from the gate to the curb. Too bad it's underutilized, though.



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User currently offlineMCIB757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 280 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4677 times:

Quoting Phuebner (Reply 10):
I think KC was smart in putting it that far out. It prevented issues that SAN and LAX are having.

Yea i suppose....but i dont see KC growing very much beyone what we have now.....and they also guessed wrong on were the growth of city would go...airport is on the north side, but the south grew, but north is starting too.



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User currently offlineMCIB757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 280 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4667 times:

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 11):
I came in from ORD on a UA 733 last November and was shocked to see a Hawaiian 763 at the gate. I have no idea what it was doing here. Too bad my camera was stowed

Im pretty sure the Hated Oakland Raiders usually fly in on Hawaiin 763, so that my be why it was there, i think we played them in November..



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User currently offlinePhuebner From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 244 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4667 times:

Quoting MCIB757 (Reply 12):
Yea i suppose....but i dont see KC growing very much beyone what we have now.....and they also guessed wrong on were the growth of city would go...airport is on the north side, but the south grew, but north is starting too

I think an adequate transportation system will certainly help out those issues, but KC Council will probably never do it. I thought that the City council was the worse I've seen until I moved to San Diego.



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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4645 times:

Quoting MCIB757 (Reply 13):
Im pretty sure the Hated Oakland Raiders usually fly in on Hawaiin 763, so that my be why it was there, i think we played them in November..

Ah, makes sense. I forgot about "Raida week".  
Still, I couldn't believe my eyes. About the only widebody traffic we get anymore is ala UPS and FedEx.

On a side note, Whiteman AFB is only 50 miles away, so we get an impromptu air show from the B-2 bombers once in a while.  

[Edited 2006-03-26 01:31:23]

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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4611 times:

Welcome "GUY"..
When the bond was passed in Dec 66 there was serious talk about a rail or monorail along I-29 from MCI to the city.
The cost was way too much even in the late 60's.
I used to work at MKC years ago but still get back to MCI three or four times a year....was there twice in 10 days a couple of weeks ago....NW DC-9's at your service..
safe



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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4602 times:

Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 16):
Welcome "GUY"..

Thanks!
I'm actually just old enough to have flown out of MKC on a 707. My mom tells me it was a scary experience with the river's proximity, but I just remember it was a lot of fun.
 Smile



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User currently offlineMCIB757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 280 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4590 times:

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 15):
Still, I couldn't believe my eyes. About the only widebody traffic we get anymore is ala UPS and FedEx.

On a side note, Whiteman AFB is only 50 miles away, so we get an impromptu air show from the B-2 bombers once in a while.

I know what you mean....widebodies are really hard to come by....and there is no expierecne like riding your bike in the park, looking up and seeing the B-2, a sight that will never get old and something i will never forget



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User currently offlineBobster2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4576 times:

What's going to be done with the site of old long term parking lot? It looks like they removed the pavement. Are they building something new?


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User currently offlineBlhp68 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4548 times:

Quoting Bobster2 (Reply 19):
What's going to be done with the site of old long term parking lot? It looks like they removed the pavement. Are they building something new?

They are constructing the new consolidated rental car facility, the last segment of the bond improvements


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5659 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4527 times:

Quoting Phuebner (Reply 5):
The plaza, Nelson Art Gallery, etc. makes it one of the best. Essentially, L132911, you're right. Both cities are doing a piss poor job getting the word out on the beauty of KC.

Amen, it has been a few years since Ive been back, I wonder if AA has kept the maintenance facility in the shape TWA had it in, or have they mothballed it?

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 9):
Greeting!
I am new here, this is my very first post. I've been lurking for quite some time now, but this thread prompted me to finally go ahead and join.

Welcome to A.net, MCIGuy! Now sit back, relax, fasten your seatbelt and stow your tray table in the armrest while your smiling TWA/PSA/Any airline you like flight attendant serves you your hard liquor, lol!

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 11):
I remember a lot of widebody traffic at MCI when I was a kid. DC-10's and Tristars were an every day thing. I don't think MCI ever got 747 traffic, except empty to the TWA overhaul base.

We used to have most of our ferry flights bring pax as well up until 1995-6 or so. Nothing like taking a 747SP from JFK to MCI though, lol!  cloudnine 



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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4509 times:

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 21):
We used to have most of our ferry flights bring pax as well up until 1995-6 or so. Nothing like taking a 747SP from JFK to MCI though, lol!

Wow, I did not know that. That does sound nice.  Wink
I was fortunate enough to be there for the Concorde's visit in 1978. That was quite an experience for an 11 year-old aviation nut.  Big grin



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5659 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4501 times:

Back in 1987, one of our L-1011's crapped an engine inflight and came straight to MCI. From what my cousin who used to work at the gates in MCI said, "You try rebooking 200+ pax on a routing of MCI-STL where the biggest plane we had at the time was a 727-200!


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User currently offlinePhuebner From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 244 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4445 times:

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 21):
I wonder if AA has kept the maintenance facility in the shape TWA had it in, or have they mothballed it?

Hey WesternA318, good to talk with you again.  Smile

I'm not for sure if AA did any upgrades or repairs to the base but they are keeping it open and utilizing it. If I'm not mistaken, they use the base to repair their 767's and some of their RJ's. The link below talks about further use of the base to make it into a "profit center", the subject I think I am going to use...somehow, for my Master's thesis.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060209/dath032.html?.v=38



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25 WesternA318 : " target=_blank>http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060209/d....v=38 Thanks Phuebner, What are you studying?
26 Phuebner : I am getting my M.A.S. in Aviation Management and Aviation Safety from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. After that, I am thinking about getting
27 NWDC10 : MCIGuy From United States, joined Mar 2006, 5 posts. I am new here, this is my very first post. I see this alot.Robert NWDC10
28 WesternA318 : Rock on, and good luck with that! Maybe you'll be the next Gordon Bethune/Doug Parker!
29 Phuebner : Maybe I can bring TWA back and buy out AA.
30 WesternA318 : Screw the buying out AA bit, lol. Where can I apply for this? I'll give up my life savings and whats left of my college acccount for it!
31 Post contains images MCIFlyer : Couldn't agree more. I've heard nothing but positive things from people who have come to visit me...about not only the city, but MCI as well. I still
32 Ramprat74 : I was looking on flykci.com. They show United in Terminal A now. When did they move over from Terminal C? Did they swap places with American?
33 Foxecho : That is it, I worked that charter this year, man those HA 767s are niiice inside....That one has a Radiers Decal on the side as well. I'm a NY Jets m
34 Foxecho : Just about everyone does out of here because of the unrinating contest between everyone and WN Andrew JFK/MEM/MCI
35 SLCUT2777 : Fix the security setup! That is MCIs biggest inhibitor is how security with that terminal design has to work. Eastern picked it as a hub due to it's
36 CWAFlyer : The Chiefs use Delta for their charters. They usually fly a 763. TWA would equipment sub a 747 to and from STL quite often to get airplanes back on-l
37 Post contains images Foxecho : One time we had a 764 for em a few years back cause of an equip shortage... no I didnt have my camera there either! Andrew JFK/MEM/MCI
38 CIDflyer : perhaps maybe more expansion from Midwest Airlines. They seem to have made MCI their secondary hub and have proclaimed being KC's hometown airline. I
39 Phuebner : Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't MCI just do a terminal renovation? If you lived up North like I did, that wouldn't be a problem.
40 ERAUMcDlover : Thats my home airport too!!!! Man I miss it, and all of you guys talking about it...i.e. the plaza and zona rosa, etc, makes me hurt for home. And no,
41 CWAFlyer : Since I-435 got finished and completely encircled the city, it's not such a big deal. When the Great Flood of 1951 happened, plans were made to build
42 727Tiger : I grew up in KC (southside; it used to take longer to drive home than to fly from DFW), so I continue to watch MCI's growth with interest. It was alwa
43 CaptainT38 : I worked the ramp up there for a commuter airline back in 99-03 and I remember during spring break seeing some 747s and L1011s taking the spring brea
44 727Tiger : Back in the early-80s, I picked up a fraternity brother flying in from LAX from Christmas break on a World Airways DC-10.
45 L1329II : This weekend I learned that there was some talk of actually tearing down MCI and starting from scratch. That actually suprised me. The thought was tha
46 Steeler83 : It has been almost 14 years since they built a completely new airport for PIT. Yet, people still think that PIT is some smokey smoggy city and have n
47 USPIT10L : Great to see MCI building up traffic again. YX has really stepped their presence there. Maybe in time, they'll pick up the Air Midwest/US Express netw
48 Steeler83 : I didn't realize that US had a sizeable operation there. I do remember US having numerous flights between PIT and MCI, but those are a thing of the p
49 USPIT10L : US had a focus city in MCI from about 1991 to 1993. It was started when US still had a large presence on the west coast from PSA. After that was disma
50 CWAFlyer : Which is really too bad. Air Midwest used to be a pretty good operation. But hey, look what happened with WestAir when Mesa got their meat hooks in t
51 WesternA318 : I thought SkyWest bought WestAir?
52 Post contains links and images Moman : My first commercial flight was WN from MCI - MDW in June 1995. I love the MCI airport. I had the pleasure to take two trips up there last summer from
53 Knope2001 : At various times (not all at once) US had nonstops to: Boston NY La Guardia Philadelphia Baltimore Washington National Pittsburgh Indianapolis Charlo
54 Post contains images Steeler83 : I remember seeing that the US PIT-MCI flight was dropped when US shredded their presence at PIT. From 500+flights down to a measley, feeble, insignif
55 Moman : Doesn't US have a decent prop operation out of MCI? I was reading somewhere about EAS service and I thought that US wanted to end it to cities in Kans
56 Post contains links Steeler83 : It appears as though US flies to Dodge City, Garden City, Great Bend, Hays, Manhattan, Salina, Little Rock with Beech1900s with Air Midwest The other
57 Adam727 : All the Airlines where moved around to different terminals as MCI remodel each terminal. I travel to MCI alot and I have notice that there are more a
58 Phuebner : Huh?
59 MCIGuy : I flew MCI-OAJ on US a while back. I left KC on a CR7 for CLT and got on a CRJ for the trip into OAJ. I was supposed to get on a CR7 for the trip hom
60 Post contains links Phuebner : On the website www.flykci.com it is mentioned that Terminal D is in their future plans. I wonder if they are going to use that to court an airline to
61 N911YX : YX is making a beachhead at terminal A. Now if we can only clean out the rest of the terminal to make it that much easier. You'll have your 21st centu
62 Post contains images Steeler83 : Lets just hope that they stay around much longer than the original Eastern did...
63 N911YX : YX is in it for the long haul but needs more equipment soon to keep growing and to extend its range and influence. I say, bring on the 757s!
64 Steeler83 : Fully agreed... They are going to need something larger for higher density routes. I am sure that if they were to add PIT service, or should I expand
65 ERJ170 : What are the top unserved markets from MCI?
66 Blhp68 : Top Unserved Markets(N/S) MIA RDU MSY(Was served pre-Katrina) JFK(EWR and LGA are served, JFK would be nice for int'l connections) SJC AUS CMH BDL RS
67 ERJ170 : Ahhh.. Here's the order per daily pax... Sacamento: 253 ave Raleigh-Durham: 248 ave New Orleans: 224 ave Columbus: 169 ave Miami: 157 ave San Jose: 15
68 Blhp68 : Southwest actually has 1 daily to SMF.
69 ERJ170 : Oops.. must have meant.. RSW.. Ft Meyers: 116 ave SDF.. Louisville: 113 ave So RDU is top non-served destination?? Hmmm... ?!?!?!?
70 Moman : This is wishful thinking but I'd love to see AA resume flights between MCI & STL.
71 IADCRJ : I do have to admit that the terminals at MCI are very unique. One thing that I have always been impressed of MCI's terminals is how well kept they are
72 Post contains images Phuebner : The terminal is nice, especially since the construction. You mean that there is no flight between the two for American? What are they thinking. That f
73 FlyCMH : Nonstop service to MCI (as well as RDU) is probably the most-needed route from CMH. If Skyway were to receive more Do328s, I would love to see twice d
74 Blhp68 : Yea that seems to be everyone's number one complaint. I guess it has to do with pure economics of the airport's operations. The eateries would probab
75 L1329II : I would imagine the terminal configuration wouldnt be changed all that much. I flew out of MCI last Wednesday and I was hung up in the ATL security d
76 Post contains links and images MD90fan : Not too long ago, US ran a E-70 on that route and several others. View Large View MediumPhoto © Paul Robbins Why would they get a 757 in the fir
77 Steeler83 : Heh, well with US anouncing CLT-JFK to compete with B6 and to bring more feeder into the Star Alliance presence at JFK. JFK has pretty much every air
78 ERJ170 : I just have 1 question... what would it take to see some FRAJets flying to RDU. I mean, the MCI market is ripe for a 32 seat FraJet.. with 250+ daily
79 Post contains images MD90fan : Today it looks like 4 daily Dumbo jets (FD-328JET) but I looked further out and its 3 daily Dumbo jets Cheers, MD90fan
80 L1329II : Uhhhm whats an FRAJet? Pardon my ignorance.
81 ERJ170 : just my little name for the Fairchild Aerospace 328Jet.. thus FRAjet! should it just be 328Jet? uhm.. and your not being ignorant.. I could be just as
82 Post contains images MD90fan : He is referring to Fairchild-Dornier 328JET aka dumbo jet, a jet variant of the 328TP
83 Post contains images ERJ170 : Yes.. those are the buggers... See.. here's one in RDU.. oh if only they would return.. I think MCI would do well by YX. Maybe 1 MKE.. but MCI has opp
84 L1329II : Got it now, thanks! Yes, I think they would make a nice addition to MCI traffic. Although - in my wildest dreams - I think it would be great to see m
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