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UA Crews Go To Nascar Pit Crew Training School!

PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 10
Posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060325/news_lz1n25read.html

United and TED are sending their crews to NASCAR pit crew training schools to learn how to improve efficiency and shorten turn-around times.

Interesting thought - we shall see if my next UA flight pushes away from the gate faster next time!!

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Dreamflight767 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2910 times:

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I could be way off base here...

But I thought Union rules prohibit one kind of job from helping/doing another kind of job. For example the pilots can't help with ticketing or baggage and the FAs can't help with cleaning.

So if Union rules prohibit this, why would UA send their crews for "efficiency" when I'm sure they are doing their own jobs as fast as they can already.

Just a thought, feel free to run with it.

Csturdiv From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1351 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2894 times:

Does this mean if a UA baggage cart is hit by a AA baggage cart that the driver of the UA cart will throw his ear protection at the AA cart?

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Mbm3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 789 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2879 times:

Quoting Dreamflight767 (Reply 1):
So if Union rules prohibit this, why would UA send their crews for "efficiency" when I'm sure they are doing their own jobs as fast as they can already.

I am sure that the UA crews could learn some new approaches to the way they operate. NASCAR crews are simply amazing - can you imagine changing 4 tires, filling up with fuel, changing the suspension and cleaning the wind screen in 15 seconds?

Maybe UA will not be much faster, but they may find ways to achieve their goals in an easier or more streamlined fashion.

Quoting Csturdiv (Reply 2):
Does this mean if a UA baggage cart is hit by a AA baggage cart that the driver of the UA cart will throw his ear protection at the AA cart?

Let's just hope they don't start bump drafting 777s down the taxiway...

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LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12331 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2858 times:

UA's ramp service people learning to improve efficiency in turn arounds of airline flights by observing NASCAR pit crews is a pretty good idea. While it won't mean they can get the planes out in 15 seconds, they could learn from the strict organization and coordination, staffing, specificy of assignments, and many small things to improve efficency that these pit crews do to help their driver/car win. It could make these workers consider how they could adapt what they learn to their work and slice maybe several minutes in turnaround time, reduce delays and make sure everything is done and done right.

Corey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2519 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2852 times:

Next they'll sell sponsorships on the fuselage in order to raise funds...

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Stirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2840 times:

I am very impressed by this forward type thinking. If this is an example of the way the new United will be doing things; thinking outside the box; searching for answers in unexpected places; realizing there is more than one way to skin a cat; realizing the way they've been doing things all these years is not necessarily the right way.....there might be hope for the airline after-all.

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ASTROJET707 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 299 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2826 times:

I am not a UA fan, but good for management for "thinking outside the box".

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Cadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9081 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2826 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 6):

Well said!

I agree it is a good idea. Granted the two jobs do not have much in common but if you want to find a job that has some excellent efficency, nascar might be the ticket.

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3201 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2805 times:

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 5):
Next they'll sell sponsorships on the fuselage in order to raise funds...

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