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What NW Cities Are Run By Pinnacle?  
User currently onlineAirTran737 From United States, joined Apr 2004, 2986 posts, RR: 9
Posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1099 times:
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I got a call from Pinnacle airlines the other day wondering if i was interested in either a ramp duty manager position, or a station manager position. I was wondering what NW cities are run by Pinnacle staff? I know that they do the majority of their operations in and out of MEM, so logic says that the cities will be in the southeast. Any help that you can give is appreciated.


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User currently offlineNorthwestair From Poland, joined Jul 2001, 593 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1060 times:

I believe SGF and XNA are both Airlink employees, but also see some Mainline flights.


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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States, joined Jul 2001, 3865 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1053 times:

BTV had one (or two?) daily DC-9s at one point, I think it's always been Pinnacle. With their small counter, it'd be fun to see them checking in a full DC-9 there.


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User currently offlineEjmmsu From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1053 times:

I know HSV is a pinnacle station.

User currently offlineBoeingPride800 From United States, joined Jun 2004, 410 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1041 times:

SHV is another Pinnacle city. However Mesaba is aswell.


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User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States, joined Apr 2004, 2986 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 968 times:
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Any others? There have got to be more stations that are Pinnacle staffed than this.


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User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States, joined Apr 2005, 1142 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 892 times:

I'm guessing PNS, TLH, PFN, MGM (Montgomery, AL) would all have to be Pinnacle cities as they only see the CRJ's from MEM

User currently offlineNLINK From United States, joined Nov 2003, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 834 times:

Lets see
HSV, MGM, MOB, SHV, PFN, PNS, FSM, SGF, TUL, LNK, ATW, MLI, CHA, CHS, ELM, TLH, CPR, plus a couple others I am probably forgetting.

User currently offlineVgnAtl747 From United States, joined Apr 2001, 1306 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 828 times:

NLINK,

Add BGM to the list...

They used to be Mesaba, but recently changed over to Pinnacle...


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User currently offlineDreamflight767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 825 times:

Here at GFK we get them and some old NW DC-9s.

User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States, joined Feb 2006, 6249 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 745 times:

Isn't PIT a Pinnacle city? I saw that Pinnacle has scheduled service out of PIT according to flypittsburgh.com... What about Latrobe...


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User currently offlineAcidradio From United States, joined Mar 2001, 1557 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 714 times:

Quoting Dreamflight767 (Reply 9):
Here at GFK we get them and some old NW DC-9s.



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 10):
Isn't PIT a Pinnacle city? I saw that Pinnacle has scheduled service out of PIT according to flypittsburgh.com... What about Latrobe...

No no no. Well OK, yes, 9E may FLY CRJ's to certain places, no disagreement, you guys are right. The question posed here is who controls that station? Storytime begins...

A while back, when 9E and XJ both flew Saabs and 9E was the only operator of CRJ's between the two, an Airlink station was typically operated by the one who had the most flights there. All the Midwestern stations (flights ex-MSP and DTW) were operated by XJ and all the Southern stations (flights ex-MEM) were 9E as they for a while (late 90's, early 2000's) basically had exclusive territories. XJ had no flights out of MEM other than a handful of Avros, but definately no Saabs. 9E had no Saabs out of DTW or MSP. Then the CRJ came into the NW Airlink fleet in about 2000-2001. 9E got all of them. 9E was assigned CRJ flying out of MEM, then later on MSP and DTW. At that point, 9E (I think as a condition of accepting all the CRJ flying, if anybody is more informed on this please correct me) gave up all their Saab flying and transferred many aircraft to XJ, who took over Saab flights out of all three markets.

So anyways, the Airlink stations that ended up mostly getting CRJ flights are controlled by 9E. The stations that receive mostly Saab flights are controlled by XJ. Stations for the most part that receive at least one mainline NW flight every day are true NW mainline stations (we all know that has changed and is changing...). Now, some stations that receive minimal mainline aircraft and mostly Airlink aircraft are considered Airlink stations and work the mainline aircraft anyways.


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States, joined Jan 2002, 4489 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 693 times:

Acidradio--good job on summing it up.

Now, the DTW and MSP regional concourse and ramp is run by Mesaba - for all Saabs, Avro's, and Pinnacle's CRJ's.

In MEM, Pinnacle handles the CRJ's, I'm not sure who handles the XJ Avro's, and a 3rd party contractor handles Mesaba's Saab's.

As for the outstations, it is pretty much how Acidradio describes it, with a few exceptions. There are a number of smaller stations where Pinnacle uses a 3rd party contractor like DGS or has Comair or ASA handle their flights. Example - SAV, used to be DGS, but I believe ExpressJet is handling Pinnacle's flights now. Things will be changing soon, as with the concessionary contract for the mainline CSA's, a number of smaller mainline stations will be put out to either Mesaba, Pinnacle, or a 3rd party (e.g., OMA, DSM, TVC, MBS, LAN) Stay tuned.

User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States, joined Oct 2003, 4581 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 691 times:
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Quoting Acidradio (Reply 11):
So anyways, the Airlink stations that ended up mostly getting CRJ flights are controlled by 9E.

Thanks for the clarification, Acidradio. As for another station controlled by Pinnacle, add CAE to the list.


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User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States, joined Apr 2004, 2705 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 638 times:

I'm pretty sure MLI is mesaba...so cross that city off...


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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States, joined Mar 2006, 1607 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 599 times:

PIT is not a Pinnacle station. It's still mainline NW for now. If NW starts cutting ramp contracts, it could go to DGS. I'm afraid this maybe the beginning of a DL-NW merger. Just my speculation, not trying to stir the pot or anything. Any thoughts?


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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States, joined Feb 2006, 6249 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 577 times:

Someone did say that Delta and Northwest could merge; that was a real possibility there. I wonder what the new airline would be called if this was to happen... Just a hyphenated name maybe... Delta-NW??? or just DNA.. Oh, God... yeah DNA, right... I'd like to fly an air carrier called DNA...


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User currently offlineFlymli From United States, joined Mar 2004, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 572 times:
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MLI is a Pinnacle station and used to be Mesaba up to about 18 months ago.

User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States, joined Feb 2001, 1260 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 559 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 12):
Things will be changing soon, as with the concessionary contract for the mainline CSA's, a number of smaller mainline stations will be put out to either Mesaba, Pinnacle, or a 3rd party (e.g., OMA, DSM, TVC, MBS, LAN) Stay tuned.

There's been talk of TOL going to a 3rd party also, have you heard of this also?


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User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States, joined Dec 2003, 2223 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 551 times:

ELM is still a Mesaba station. Hottest CSM in the system there.

AirTran737 -

I don't know that I would accept a job with Pinnacle. Nothing against them, theres just a lot of uncertainty surrounding all of NWA's regional flying. Until thr RFP for CRJ flying is done, there is no guarantee that Pinnacle will be flying the planes, or running the stations that they currently run.

EDIT: Sorry, was confusing ELM with ITH. ELM is Pinnacle

[Edited 2006-03-27 22:18:03]

User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States, joined Apr 2004, 2986 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 545 times:
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Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 19):
don't know that I would accept a job with Pinnacle. Nothing against them, theres just a lot of uncertainty surrounding all of NWA's regional flying. Until thr RFP for CRJ flying is done, there is no guarantee that Pinnacle will be flying the planes, or running the stations that they currently run.

Believe me the RFP is my main sticking point. I'm not going to leave a secure position for one that may be gone in a weeks time.


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User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States, joined Dec 2003, 2223 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 535 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 20):
Believe me the RFP is my main sticking point. I'm not going to leave a secure position for one that may be gone in a weeks time.

Good to know. Far too much uncertainty.